camn's temperamental - Mini 1232 - GAME OVER

[BBmolla]

very brief/premature catchup

panda looks more town in #270 - #290. I might have been wrong about him
kanye & Fishy are town
chair I have trouble reading, but I always do with implosion.
peg seems logical enough but it might be organised IIoA I'm mistaking for townieness in this case. Might need more from him
Parama has just been suicidal if he's scum. One of BB and parama

should

be scum (this is camn mod though. I wouldn't put setup wifom past her tbh) and a town flip from one should confirm the other as mafiosi. The converse also appiled (in other words a scum flip from one makes the other town)
so now we know 2 players, one of which is certainly scum. It's as if we've lynched 0.5 a mafiosi already I guess. I'm more willing to let parama go first although I don't think it matters tbh. We lynch scum either way and I still find the PR itself weak and unreliable. BB just feels more genuine to me than parama I guess. However parma does make some good analysis points and is an asset to town assuming he isn't scum. I could be persuaded either way as to who to lynch first I guess.

Lynching Parama is quite literally setting it up to have me lynched.

I think we're both town.

Look at it from my point of view. You're town. You get tunneled by someone and they end up claiming that you're maf because they claim a role with a similar name than yours that does the same function.

If mafia did this and I was lynched, I'd obviously flip town, getting them lynched. A one for one trade in this setup makes no sense.

[Twistedspoon]

If mafia did this and I was lynched, I'd obviously flip town, getting them lynched. A one for one trade in this setup makes no sense.

i don't find 2 flavour/name cops making sense either

and since when did scum make sense?
as scum I've claimed doc in a setup where a doc has already claimed. 2 protective roles make no sense; but scum don't think strigath and act on the spur of the moment

I'm sure parama had to find some justification for tunneling on you so hard as well. A role inconsistency is a fine card to play
this reaction that you have now might be exactly what scum were looking for too (assuming you are town)
2 cops is always wrong. CC'ing cop isn't. It's wifom

if you're town parma is scum. same for parama town

[kanyeknowsbest]

I do not think lynching BBmolla on the fact that there is a counter claimed name cop is a good idea. There is nothing that says we cannot have two name cops. However, that his role name differs is a damning point for me.

Unvote, Vote: BBmolla

[Lurconis]

However, that his role name differs is a damning point for me.

We actually agree on something!

VOTE: BBMolla

[Parama]

*sigh*
should've just claimed immediately if this is what's happening now.

[BBmolla]

Alright I'm fine with being lynched today, please when I flip town don't auto assume Parama is scum as I'm not sure that's the case.

[Parama]

Alright I'm fine with being lynched today, please when I flip town don't auto assume Parama is scum as I'm not sure that's the case.

-_-
o_-


FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFf this game. what the hell are we doing.

[Parama]

THIS DOESN"T MAKEJ ANY GODAMNM SENCE

[Twistedspoon]

Alright I'm fine with being lynched today, please when I flip town don't auto assume Parama is scum as I'm not sure that's the case.

this is the last thing scum would say in this situation

1) that they're fine with being lynched
2) that they at least don't want to bring a townie down with them

call it wifom, but it's true

[Johhog]

Lol camn edited your post about camn setups being strange or something like that. Anything we can deduce from this?

he botched his quote tags.

[camn]

BLOOD!

Parama

- 2

( Chair Zang )

BBmolla

- 5

( Parama RedPanda Johhog kanyeknowsbest Lurconis )

Chair

- 3

( Haylen PeregrineV fishythefish )

Zang

- 1

( twistedspoon )

NOT VOTING:

( Sathoris BBmolla )

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is

WED, SEPTEMBER 14th

, 9am MY TIME.. . Or whenever I get around to it.

[Chair]

Unvote

parama is town
bb is also probably town
it's probably a "defy the meta" type move if camn put in both their roles as town

We need to reassess this...

[Parama]

But see
Chair, the issue is, BB is scummy of his own regards. he WAS scummy before he claimed, and he hasn't improved since.
At the same time, I don't see why he's offering himself up for a lynch

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Twistedspoon]

Unvote

parama is town
bb is also probably town
it's probably a "defy the meta" type move if camn put in both their roles as town

We need to reassess this...

Occam's razor

nifty little tool

use it and you'll see one is scum. BB feels genuine to me but if his flip confirms parama as scum to me then so be it

2 cops is just plain broken imho

[BBmolla]

I'd say protective role should be on Parama atm.

@Twisted: And how would the last thing town would say differ?

Also, keep in mind, we're flavor cops which debateably has the usefulness of a VT.

[Chair]

Occam's razor doesn't apply. It doesn't make sense for paramascum to claim like this, it doesn't make sense for bbscum to have been willing to be lynched for the entire day.

We need to look elsewhere...

VOTE: Twistedspoon

[Twistedspoon]

@Twisted: And how would the last thing town would say differ?

Also, keep in mind, we're flavor cops which debateably has the usefulness of a VT.

still, 2 flavour cops should not exist. One would counterclaim the other and cause 2 myslynches for town. This should not happen

also, scum rarely volunteer themselves for the lynch, and in the rare instances they do, they don't do it without gaining anything at all for their side (in this case taking down the other claimed cop). This is why I'd perhaps find you the more likely cop than parama were one scum (which I still think)

[BBmolla]

@Twisted: And how would the last thing town would say differ?

Also, keep in mind, we're flavor cops which debateably has the usefulness of a VT.

still, 2 flavour cops should not exist. One would counterclaim the other and cause 2 myslynches for town. This should not happen

This is exactly why it was done. To cause the town to kill itself.

[Johhog]

I'm thinking that BB maybe gambitted, as he was going to get lynched soon.

[kanyeknowsbest]

Your reasoning is incorrect Twistedspoon. There is nothing wrong with there being two of the same role. Unless the setup explicitly states there cannot be two of the same role then assuming such on day 1 is a poor assumption.

[Sathoris]

I'm too sleep deprived to analyse all of this, but my gut feeling: twisted is looking opportunistic as hell. Johhog's not far behind him.

Will take a closer look tomorrow, obviously.

[Haylen]

I'm not seeing Twistedspoon as town in this game. His posts have more of the same feel they had when we were scum together.

Prod avoidance really. But I have nothing to do tomorrow so yay! games!

[Zang]

This is very confusing.

Unvote

Vote: Kanyeknowsbest

I'm not really sure if Parama is town but it's better not to lynch him yet. I'd also rather not lynch BB because he is playing very pro-town. I will vote for one of them though if needed.

[camn]

BBmolla

- 5

( Parama RedPanda Johhog kanyeknowsbest Lurconis )

Chair

- 3

( Haylen PeregrineV fishythefish )

kanyeknowsbest

- 1

( Zang )

Zang

- 1

( twistedspoon )

twistedspoon

- 1

( Chair )

NOT VOTING:

( Sathoris BBmolla )

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is

WED, SEPTEMBER 14th

, 9am MY TIME.. . Or whenever I get around to it.

[Johhog]

What if it is the opposite? What if Parama is scum and he knows that the scum have scummy rolenames, so he sacrifice himself to lynch the Name Cop. I don't know how likely this is though, Parama is reading town to me.