Mini 1241: Lab Mafia (Game Over)

[-L-]

As I have read the thread thus far, it seems to me:

-Nanook unvoted far too quickly once confronted. Why did you unvote so quickly? How did benefit your goal of "ruffling feathers"? Did it not release pressure from your target, thus invalidating your goal?
-Fenix: you will have to prove your vig-ness before the day is out because we cannot sit and puzzle about your claim. If you fail to do so, you should face a lynch in my opinion. You were prepared for this once you claimed, I suppose?

[-L-]

No I did not. Where did that come out, and why do you believe he was fake claiming? He never said that much.

[-L-]

Why do I play?

[-L-]

sigh...

well fenix is town and L is leaning scum. will post more content after i see how this plays out.

How is fenix town? And how, from two posts, am I scum? Show me your reasons for saying this?Gut? Do better than that.

Anxiety - what were your goals in claiming one-shot jester?

[-L-]

/bored...

Please answer my questions!

[-L-]

... Sorry, I've been a bit busy lately.

I'll throw my vote on VOTE: Fenix with a question.

What were you hoping to achieve with that fakeclaim?

Ask something original or read more in depth?

sigh...

well fenix is town and L is leaning scum. will post more content after i see how this plays out.

How is fenix town? And how, from two posts, am I scum? Show me your reasons for saying this?Gut? Do better than that.

Anxiety - what were your goals in claiming one-shot jester?

My question was on the very same page that you posted this question on.

Your vote is not retalitory tho considering it is a couple pages too late. In other news Nanook, L, and Garuru are charged with suspicion of rolefishing.

I am sure you are not serious. Asking what your goals were in making that claim is not the same as trying to find out roles.

Answer the question. It's been 2 days already.

[-L-]

Vote: Anxiety

I am not sold on fenix's innocence, but it seems obvious that he chose to claim a role that doesn't exist in this format, correct? Why are we lynching him over it?

Anxiety, why do you have problems explaining your goals for claiming jester? You had a reason - what was it?

[-L-]

So I'm at how many votes from lynch?

Why am I scum?

[-L-]

uh... I drove the wagon, so obviously its not scum driven.
I think once the wagon reaches its conclusion and [L] flips scum, there will be at least (but probably only) 1 scum on it.

My original case on [L] stands, this little derailment to anxiety isnt going to dissuade me. Shit, you can say the focus on anxiety is currently scum driven/supported as well. Scum are everywhere you know.

I think that "why am I scum" comment was so awful that [L] needs to hang almost on that alone.

Your logic is lacking.

When votes are placed on me, without reasons [gut is not sufficient] - and I ask "Why am I scum?" - you must provide your reasoning for voting for me. This is not anti-town, and it is not a scum question attempting to look protown. Why isn't it scum attempting to look protown, you ask?

Simply because it yields useful information. If Anxiety provides his motivations and goals for making that claim, we will see into Anxiety and understand him a little more.

Do not forget that this is a game of information. Failure to provide it when asked for both makes you look suspicious, and as though you have something to hide. I repeatedly asked Anxiety to respond to my question of motive, and he refused. Because he refuses to explain why he fakeclaimed/claimed right after Fenix did - he is suspect. After his further demonstration of his anti-town [I'm going to play this how I want to and you will deal with it, eff your questions, they aren't important] attitude....

I voted for him straightaway.

Of course my opinion is that scum were trying to get a fast lynch off on me. That opinion can't be changed since I know my role. But as far as the rest of you and your belief of this - that is neither here nor there because there is, as of yet, no way to prove it. But the very nature of the speed and intensity of that wagon should be a clue in and of itself.

[-L-]

Srry i've been a bit lazy with this game.

L, nanook, and el simo are scum.

will explain why when i have the time.

Please make time and explain. You are wrong, btw.

Does it bother you for me to say you are wrong?

I think you can't even put logical thoughts together, either.

Why do you play?

[-L-]

sorta prod dodging.

Explain. I would rather not jump to conclusions.

[-L-]

Anxiety is the easy lynch wagon? I'm sorry, but could you tell me what about Anxiety makes him appear town? Was it the fake claim? Dodging of questions? ... What? I'm just curious

It's not about appearing townie, it's about not appearing scummy.

I don't understand the underlined. Who asked what questions pertaining to who? As far as I know any questions geared at me, I've answered. If I haven't then please point them out

L asked you some pressing questions, that you answered, which L proceeded to ignore. You don't ignore answers to questions you ask.

Are you saying that I don't follow up on suspicion? I don't know how many times it needs to be said, but the voting for IS strictly was a poke at IS. I knew it would grasp his attention. I'm not carrying out a vote on someone strictly for lurking and if you find me scummy for that, then so be it.

No I'm not. This isn't even about you..

Appears opportunistic on your part

Hunting for tells and finding relationships between two individually scummy players is opportunistic?

So, since no one else will bite you're going to take the easy wagon? Isn't that what you're accusing me of doing? I on the other hand have my vote on Anxiety as he is so obviously lying about his role. There was no need for him to claim, the same goes for Fenix. Again, I would vote to lynch either player this day.

No it's not what I'm accusing you of doing and no it's not what I'm doing. I'm suspicious of both of you, no one wants to vote the one so I vote my other suspect. I'm not picking the easy wagon, I'm lynching my suspect.

Stop perpetuating this foolishness about "ignoring". I've been prodded twice because I keep forgetting about the game, which I have apologized greatly to EmpKing for.

[-L-]

@Wasabi:

I wasn't saying you were scum for that, because none of the things I mentioned were tells. I'm telling you to be consistent for my sanity's sake. Nice OMGUS vote, btw.

@[L]:

For all your talk about needing information, you haven't given a single opinion on anyone this entire game besides Anxiety, and even then I had to guess your opinion based on your vote alone. Follow your own advice:

Do not forget that this is a game of information. Failure to provide it when asked for both makes you look suspicious, and as though you have something to hide.

And if you read that post further, it appears you're coaching Anxiety as well.

Happy with my vote. It wouldn't be hard on my conscience to hammer [L] either.

Needing information and providing information are two different sides of the mafia game equation. It is true that I have not questioned anyone else, but other questions that present themselves to me have been asked. Should I ask the questions again?

And, I was not coaching, I was deriding him for not playing Mafia. This particular game is full of half-wits - which is why I have been complaining "why do I play?" There is no real discussion, just back and forth of the silly small things.

[-L-]

Town.

[-L-]

Town.

Coulda fooled me.

Could have? Your observations were foolish. Or you are scum.