Zom Com Mafia - Mini 1225 (Abandoned)

[Seraphim]

Oh, I didn't know you meant full fakeclaims.

[TheJakalope]

Alright, no one is ever cleared because of their claim.

But his makes sense because of the 8 votes needed for Maru's lynch... Ugh.

Unvote

for now.

[Nikanor]

Vote Count 2-9

ace5993 (3)

- Seraphim, MagnaofIllusion, SleepyKrew

Captain Corporal (2)

- PeregrineV, InflatablePie

Seraphim (2)

- Bogre, ace5993

TheJakalope (1)

- Captain Corporal

PeregrineV (1)

- Twistedspoon

Not Voting (3)

- Starbuck, Chronopie, TheJakalope

With twelve votes in play, six votes are required to lynch.

Deadline hits in (expired on 2011-09-17 01:53:41).

[Seraphim]

Hmmmmmm. Now this is interesting.

His claim rings true. It's why it's only 6 to lynch today...it didn't eight to lynch, it's just one of those votes didn't count.

Jak, don't be quite so ready to unvote him yet.

We need to lynch someone today frankly. There's a pretty easy way to figure out who Ed is, because I am almost 100% positive that one of Ed/Shaun is more than definitely scum.

I thought immediately that the voteless guy must be town but then I remembered that this was a four scum game and this could be a way to weaken the scum.

So, I propose an experiment. I want Jak to revote and then we lynch him. If he is lynched at six legitimate votes, then our voteless guy was NOT on the wagon. If he ISN'T lynched, we know he is one of the people on the wagon. Between this and the Maru wagon, we should be able to find our culprit.

Because I am 100% sure that one of them is scum. They definitely both aren't scum together.

[TheJakalope]

VOTE: Ace

Sounds good.

[Seraphim]

I want PeregrineV and Captain Corporal to vote Ace as soon as they get on, unless someone has better ideas.

[Seraphim]

Actually scratch that hold on.

[Seraphim]

I don't want either of those people on the wagon, they are confirmed not Ed.

[Seraphim]

SleepyKrew, TheJakalope
Ethos, Bogre, Starbuck, SleepyKrew, TheJakalope, Chronopie

The above is the people on the ace wagon who could be Ed. The below is people who were on the Maru wagon who could be Ed.

I've taken myself and ace off the list of people because I'm not Ed. ace was the hammerer yesterday so he's definitely not voteless either.

BTW, whoever Ed is should claim if they're town. But I'm pretty sure they're scum.

I wish there was someone else we could test this on because as far as claims go, ace is most likely town. Bleeeeeech.

[SleepyKrew]

Why are you so certain that Ed is already on the ace wagon?
Also, I said I'm willing to be compliant and answer you and you ignored me D:
Zombiebers make me sad

[Seraphim]

I'm not.

If we get one players that confirmed have a vote and a player like Chronopie from the Maru wagon that is not confirmed to vote, we have a pool of three players that might be Ed.

Or Ed could just claim.

[SleepyKrew]

Also, I said I'm willing to be compliant and answer you and you ignored me D:
Zombiebers make me sad

[Seraphim]

Yeah, sorry, I've been skimming sort of.

Go for the reads brah.

[SleepyKrew]

Full playerlist right?
[insert joke about lists and Zombiebers and confusion]

[Seraphim]

Sure, why not? I don't need reasons for the null reads obviously, but I definitely want explanations for your scum reads and your top town read. Everything else is optional.

[SleepyKrew]

HOLD IT
You were a proponent of witholding reads earlier.
Just another reason you are scum.
I on the other hand don't hide my reads, and shall fully disclose them come next post.
Phoenix Wright up in yo Zombieber ass

[Seraphim]

No one ever asked me for all my reads. *shrug*

[ace5993]

I'd never thought of it but Ed is NOT confirmed town in my PM. I suppose it's possible he's scum, and taking a vote away from scum because there are more than usual makes sense. The flavor fits (zombie in the movie, but still friends with Shaun).

Sera your plan to lynch me as a test wagon doesn't work because Ed gains his vote when I die so you won't be able to figure out who he is anymore. Looking at the potential Ed people there's no way you'll be able to figure it out from two wagons.

[SleepyKrew]

MoI- null, gut feels off
Twistedspoon- scum for stuff I've said
Chronopie- null, hate the lurking
Seraphim- scum for stuff I've said
Ethos- nulltown, don't recall anything scummy
PeregrineV- nulltown for same as above, should post moar 
Starbuck- nulltown, started off scummy but has made townie posts
ace5993- scum as per MoI's case
TheJakalope- scum for stuff I've said
Bogre- null
Captain Corporal- null

So yeah, no solid townreads.

Zombiebers lists bleh

[Seraphim]

It's possible that you are both town but I find this highly, highly unlikely. Unless said player doesn't know he's voteless, if he was town, I think he would have claimed voteless.

It's certainly a way to weaken scum influence on the day game to counteract 9-4.

bleach, I don't know what to think. I'm going to take a step back. I'll take a look at SK's list in more depth later.

[PeregrineV]

Hmmmmmm. Now this is interesting.

His claim rings true. It's why it's only 6 to lynch today...it didn't eight to lynch, it's just one of those votes didn't count.

Jak, don't be quite so ready to unvote him yet.

We need to lynch someone today frankly. There's a pretty easy way to figure out who Ed is, because I am almost 100% positive that one of Ed/Shaun is more than definitely scum.

I thought immediately that the voteless guy must be town but then I remembered that this was a four scum game and this could be a way to weaken the scum.

So, I propose an experiment. I want Jak to revote and then we lynch him. If he is lynched at six legitimate votes, then our voteless guy was NOT on the wagon. If he ISN'T lynched, we know he is one of the people on the wagon. Between this and the Maru wagon, we should be able to find our culprit.

Because I am 100% sure that one of them is scum. They definitely both aren't scum together.

So based on "Shaun's" claim, were Shaun is Ace, one of Ace and some other player who is Ed with no vote is "definitely scum"? Why? Yes, I will why before I buy.

Why does scum need to be weakened? Do they have an otherwise powerful role that the overall team needs to be weakened?

So you think that if scum Ace dies, town Ed gets his vote? Or when town Ace dies, scum Ed gets his vote? Why does this make any sense?

@Ace- How can Ed be a zombie if he's not on the non-human list that ethos has? And if your town and die and give Ed the vote, how is that taking a vote away from scum?

[SleepyKrew]

Seraphim full reads list gogogo
Zombiebers go ogogog

[Seraphim]

One of Ace and Ed is scum because it doesn't make sense for them to be the same alignment if Ace is telling the truth about his claim.

So you think that if scum Ace dies, town Ed gets his vote? Or when town Ace dies, scum Ed gets his vote? Why does this make any sense?

Basically. I don't see this being a role that is given to scummates. It's possible that this is a double town role but that seems to weaken town too much. In fact, Ed being town really seems to weaken town and cause them to lose too much influence.

Scum could be weakened at least in the daygame because this is a 9-4 game.

[SleepyKrew]

Seraphim full reads list gogogo
Zombiebers go ogogog

[Ethos]

We're finally both online at the same time. Our thoughts are incoming in the next twenty minutes or so.

We're both slightly confused by the mechanics and aren't making any real leeway on it despite reading the OP an excessive amount of times. An explanation on whether we're able to just revive people if they flip town after we lynch them would be greatly appreciated. Also is the lack of night kills or deaths mechanic based or is this just Buffy 2.0?