Mini 1238 - One After the Other - Over!

[Zdenek]

You're not saying I'm scummy, but seeking others opinions to, as I will guess, piggy back off of their responses, and formulate a justification from other people for your vote on me.

I've been saying why you are scum for pages.

Why are you asking such an asinine question?

He thinks I am scum because I was "Trying to set something up." I'm questioning him about it in the hope that he'll see the error in his ways if he thinks about it for a bit.

Oh that's right because you're fishing for reactions. Silly me.
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Here is confirmation that Mute is scum. If he actually thought that I was scum, he'd be saying that I am asking asinine questions because I am scum trying to active lurk or for some other motivation that is attributed to scum. Instead, he attributed a relatively townie motivation to my actions.

[Zdenek]

Mod: Prod Killjoy please.

[Whiskers]

If he actually thought that I was scum, he'd be saying that I am asking asinine questions because I am scum trying to active lurk or for some other motivation that is attributed to scum. Instead, he attributed a relatively townie motivation to my actions.

Why are you asking such an asinine question?

Oh yeah, he did that. My bad.

Fixed that for you.

[Thirdkoopa]

You dare question my towniness TK?

I am your master!

i don't even know how to take this

Still liking my TK vote if he's going to just drop a quick created read list and disappear until prod time everytime.

Which I won't be doing.

I'm thinking over my options with this game and I'll check out later if there's anything I can comment on. I'd probably vote Zdenek, but that'd place him at L-1, which I'm paranoid over quickhammers (especially if he has a possible claim though yeah basic) and the whole Friend replacement/slow moving thing stopped my motivation to.

Anything else that might have went over my head over these past few pages?

[Zdenek]

What are your thoughts on Mute?

[Zdenek]

The fact that everyone is ignoring Mute is driving me crazy, but I'm tired of trying to push it.

Unvote
Vote THirdkoopa

[Thirdkoopa]

What are your thoughts on Mute?

Did you mean this just to me or the thread? If you meant this to me my redux doesn't feel as town as I thought before but it's still leaning towards Town.

The fact that everyone is ignoring Mute is driving me crazy, but I'm tired of trying to push it.

Unvote
Vote THirdkoopa

Care to elaborate with your own reasoning or are you just sheeping off others to save your ass? I'm pretty sure you've stated some other suspicions asides from Mute.

[Zdenek]

Whenever you post about being willing to lynch me you fail to say anything about why you think that I am scum and you're posts even suggest that you think I am town.

Zdenek: I would be half-okay with lynching you now for VCA. A few are suddenly trying to break off the wagon as pointed out, but I really don't know. There's not much sans for the Wagon that makes me believe you're town.

Here you give a reason for thinking I could be town. Compare this to the low barrier for townishness that TK has for some people. Check out his ISO 3 for example.

@Zde: Can you point out where? He said he answered and I didn't see any part lacking it. I'm willing to listen. (Had a lot to catch up on etc)

A willingness to learn from someone you think is scum. I don't think so.

I'm thinking over my options with this game and I'll check out later if there's anything I can comment on. I'd probably vote Zdenek, but that'd place him at L-1, which I'm paranoid over quickhammers (especially if he has a possible claim though yeah basic) and the whole Friend replacement/slow moving thing stopped my motivation to.

You are worried about putting me at L-1 for reasons associated with me being town. This looks like scum trying to seem pro-town by not voting for town and giving overly cautious reasons for their actions.

[Ashblade]

I'm thinking over my options with this game and I'll check out later if there's anything I can comment on. I'd probably vote Zdenek, but that'd place him at L-1, which I'm paranoid over quickhammers

This isn't the site to worry about quickhammers. I mean L-1 is that little fun spot where shit goes down on this site. A sweet spot.

Are you denying the amazingness of L-1?

[Thirdkoopa]

Whenever you post about being willing to lynch me you fail to say anything about why you think that I am scum and you're posts even suggest that you think I am town.

I don't see how my posts suggest this. Second guessing myself?

Maybe.

But sure, I'll do so. This game just requires more of my focus than the others I'm offsite in.

Here you give a reason for thinking I could be town. Compare this to the low barrier for townishness that TK has for some people. Check out his ISO 3 for example.

...wat

More like "What makes me doubt it"

A willingness to learn from someone you think is scum. I don't think so.

"TK's scum because he wants to listen to information on someone who may still be town"

This is more "He may have second guesses" than "Yeah I think he's Town". I want to learn because I'm willing to listen. If you flip Town, all the information proves better.

You are worried about putting me at L-1 for reasons associated with me being town. This looks like scum trying to seem pro-town by not voting for town and giving overly cautious reasons for their actions.

I'm always overly cautious about a hammer; it's not suppose to intend either way. So you're saying "If he's Town, he should be careless"? I'm not getting this reasoning.

[Thirdkoopa]

Quick review on why

I

think Zde is scum: (Without repeating everything else)
-Grasping straws in-general with content.
-Nothing consistent feeling with suspicions. Not just this event but from my quick re-read to refresh my brain: Tries to say on one page Killjoy's possible scum, then goes to Emp, and so on. It's all way too swingy. It feels like at any point that he just wants to lynch... well, anyone.
-At this point, grasping for straws. I'm not seeing this thing with Mute that much.

This isn't the site to worry about quickhammers. I mean L-1 is that little fun spot where shit goes down on this site. A sweet spot.

Are you denying the amazingness of L-1?

Good point. I'm not waiting until Deadline to get my answers, shit doesn't seem like it's going to move in most ways any other time soon, and I'm sure nobody's going to vote after this.

VOTE: Zdenek

[Zdenek]

I want to learn because I'm willing to listen. If you flip Town, all the information proves better.

This is just dumb. If I flip town, then all you get to know is that I actually thought it, but that has no bearing on whether what I thought is correct or not.

The Mute case is good so far no one has given any concrete reason that makes me think otherwise.

Worrying about being consistent with suspicions is something that scum worries about.

The fact that you've been saying that your willing to vote me, while hinting that you think I am town is well documented.

Anyway, I that the scum are in:

Mute
TK
Pseudo

I'm null on Whispersilk and Hiraki, so they'd be my next choices.

I think everyone else is town.

[Zdenek]

I should probably move Monk into the null category, just to improve my chances of being 100% right about my town reads . . . I don't like that he's taken to lurking for the past day.

[Meransiel]

Vote Count 1.8

And as Meransiel was recalibrating his screwdriver, the day was approaching its middle.

Whispersilk - Hiraki (1)

Zdenek

- Killjoy, Mute, empking, monk, Whiskers,

Thirdkoopa

(L-1)
Pseudonymous - Friend (1)

Koopa

- Ashblade,

Zdenek

(2)
Friend - Pseudonymous (1)

Not voting: whispersilk (1)

Killjoy is being prodded.

[monk]

So Zden, any particular reasons for your reads other than Mute, I have both of them in null land

[monk]

Scum reads that is

[Mute]

Zed's appeal to emotion / guilt tripping in post 336 is noted.

[Whiskers]

Zed's appeal to emotion / guilt tripping in post 336 is noted.

I missed it, can you be more specific?

[Zdenek]

Zed's appeal to emotion / guilt tripping in post 336 is noted.

I've explained TK and Mute and Pseudo because he's not doing anything.

Zed's appeal to emotion / guilt tripping in post 336 is noted.

No examples=scum full of shit.

[Zdenek]

Zed's appeal to emotion / guilt tripping in post 336 is noted.

I've explained TK and Mute and Pseudo because he's not doing anything.

PoE too.

[Mute]

Zed's appeal to emotion / guilt tripping in post 336 is noted.

I missed it, can you be more specific?

Do pardon the shitty formatting, phone ain't the best. I can't even scroll past where he says "anyways I that..."
Basically, the bolded.lines come off as total shit. "If" I flip town; sounds bad to me.
After that, he says no one's given him good enough reason? Zed, you

aren't listening to others to begin with.

Then the last line is total shit. Everyone should worry about consistency, otherwise they look stupid. If not scummy for being wishy-washy.

I want to learn because I'm willing to listen. If you flip Town, all the information proves better.

This is just dumb.

If I flip town, then all you get to know is that I actually thought it, but that has no bearing on whether what I thought is correct or not.

The Mute case is good

so far no one has given any concrete reason that makes me think otherwise.

Worrying about being consistent with suspicions is something that scum worries about.

The fact that you've been saying that your willing to vote me, while hinting that you think I am town is well documented.

Anyway, I that the scum are in:

Mute
TK
Pseudo

I'm null on Whispersilk and Hiraki, so they'd be my next choices.

I think everyone else is town.

[Zdenek]

Well Mute accuses me of AtE and guilt-tripping and then points out things that he thinks sound bad. This combined with everyone's reactions to him is making me have a change of heart about Mute.

Wagon analysis:
Zdenek - Killjoy, Mute, empking, monk, Whiskers, Thirdkoopa (L-1)

My feeling is one or two scum in - Killjoy, Emoking and TK

Everyone else:
Ashblade, Hiraki, Friend, Pseudonymous, whispersilk

My guess is one or two scum in Hiraki, Pseudo, whispersilk.

[Hiraki]

I want to hammer.

Did Zdenek claim, and/or does anyone have a consent that no hammer is in place?

[Zdenek]

I'm a townie.

[Empking]

I'm down with a hammar.