camn's temperamental - Mini 1232 - GAME OVER

[kanyeknowsbest]

Haylen maybe you should take a look at the flips when you get a chance : ]

[kanyeknowsbest]

Also are you Twistedspoon's buddy?

[Chair]

Gut feeling is a legit reason.

Note: these are going to be biased towards TS being scum, obviously.

My quick read on TS

Post #28 Iso #1
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p3392353

Post #37 Iso #2
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p3392617

Post #41 Iso #3
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p3392660

If you take a look at his first three posts, you'll see that his logic is pretty off. First, he claims that there shouldn't be conflict over RVS, yet he is engaging over a conflict in RVS, and anyone that has played in MS has seen conflict in RVS. Then he states that his RVS isn't truly RVS after he states that there shouldn't be conflict in RVS. This is scummy. Only scum would try and hide instead of actually engaging in some sort of conflict, especially if the RVS isn't supposedly truly RVS. Why would town not truly RVS and then claim that conflict made from that post is illegitimate?

Post 123 Iso 5
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p3397221

Most of this post is just him basically taking everyone else's posts and agreeing with them.

Post 372 Iso 13
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p3423731

He now decides that he is going to lynch BB or Parama, solely on the fact of the power role claims. Yet earlier, Post 184 Iso 11, he states that one shouldn't base votes off of claims.

He also stops pushing for a Zang lynch from this point.

Also, by focusing solely on the claims, it gives TS an excuse to lynch town without feeling pressured.

Post 388 Iso 17
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p3423897

Previously (Post 181 Iso 10), he stated that name cop is useless. Then in this post, he states that it is broken.

This puts him in a double bind: either he's not paying attention to the game and he's scum or he's switching viewpoints in order to get both BB and Parama lynched Day1 Day2 respectively and he's scum.

Post 439 Iso 25
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p3428984

This post is possibly the biggest reason why TS is scum.

His hammer is horrible. He tries way too hard to make himself look town. He talks about "confirmed town" and the parenthesis part, trying to sound town when it really was unnecessary. Additionally, TS does some major buddying in Iso 16 and 18 with BB. Yet he never truly attempts to get another wagon going, which he would have if he was so certain that BB was town (voting Parama doesn't count as trying), so he knew that BB was going to be one of the wagons.


Post 456 Iso 28
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p3434568

Doesn't make sense in terms of what was happening Day 1. He agreed with the possibility with 2 cops. His only reason for lynching parama was because he thought BB was more townish and two cops is broken.

Doesn't actually do analysis on parama; his lynch is only based on BB.

Post 471 Iso 31
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p3436620

Provides the reason after being questioned? This doesn't make sense at all honestly. Let's change mindsets and not tell anyone till I look scummy? Nope, don't see it.

Also, pushes a chair wagon, yet doesn't actually start it.

Additionally, gut is good.

He even said earlier in Post 179 Iso 8 that town can use gut as a reason. This moots all his arguments about not providing analysis for a lynch vote.

His push on the chair wagon is also really slow to be town. He never questioned our "sheeping" with parama day 1 and giving no reason. Only when he is being under attack does he bring arguments up about weak reasoning. This is really key. Wagon is on him and now he he's looking for a way out.

-Misder

[Johhog]

VOTE: Haylen

Seems fake that she didn't know that Sathoris was dead. I mean, c'mon, surely one would look at the Night Kill before one post? I can't see why any pro-town PR (like a vig) would do this either.

[camn]

A new rule enters my ruleset.
Please note it in post #0.

Haylen

- 2

( Haylen Johhog )

Chair

- 1

( PeregrineV )

kanyeknowsbest

- 1

( Zang )

twistedspoon

- 4

( Parama kanyeknowsbest Lurconis Chair )

Parama

- 1

( twistedspoon )

NOT VOTING:

(

twistedspoon

fishythefish RedPanda )

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
Deadline is

THURS, SEPTEMBER 29th

, 8pm MY TIME.. . Or whenever I get around to it.

[Parama]

best rule ever.
I have nothing more to say.

[Zang]

Zang, what's your case on Kanye?

The same as yesterday.

That is never protown.
Vote Sathoris

Really? Did you even bother to read the thread?

Unvote
Vote: Haylen

Also, I'm going to read over twistedspoon, Chair's case on him seems pretty good.

[PeregrineV]

I'm glad to see the initiative, troops!

Chair, I will peruse your report, and you are relieved of latrine duty until such time as it is duly authenticated.

Haylen, son, I don't know where you hail from, but we do not desecrate the memory of our fallen comrades.

Unvote.
Vote: Chair

Promote: Zang to Private First Class

for some right thinking.

Note: This is a temporary promotion pending a full background check.

[PeregrineV]

Peregrin, what makes you privy to such information as that list of roles? I might aswell confirm that my role is on that list somewhere.

That is why your gun is not loaded. You are appearing to be a possible danger to yourself.

Please note this post:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 3#p3426273

[RedPanda]

The reason i voted for sathoris was because of this comment -

As it stands, I trust Parama, BB and Kanye. Chair is joining the good side as is Fishy. If I were to guess where the scum are hiding I'd say it's in you, Lurconis, Zang, Haylen, Johhog and Panda. Given we're one day off the deadline and you've got three votes now and it's useless to make a whole case on one of the others and expect to get them lynched within a day. I'm sticking on you as it's my best shot in the dark right now.

i thought his reads on chair bb and fishy were wrong and i felt adding parama and kanye was just convenient because half of us already believed them to be town.

[RedPanda]

now that bb has flipped town, i no longer believe parama and kanye are confirmed town.

ive been wondering why the scum would choose sathoris as their nightkill. i dont believe its a random kill choice. im still rereading to find why he got killed and i would ask the others to do the same.

[Twistedspoon]

voting a dead player?

Hey Haylen, are you SK? Cause even mafia wouldn't have drawn attention to themselves like that.

Post 123 Iso 5
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p3397221

Most of this post is just him basically taking everyone else's posts and agreeing with them.

blatant misrep

[Haylen]

Oh wow. I read something...and it doesn't register. All I can say is 'Oops, I'm a bit absent minded.' Not the first time I've done that in a game, definately won't be the last.

Hey Haylen, are you SK? Cause even mafia wouldn't have drawn attention to themselves like that.

Unfortunately, my luck isn't that good. Just had an SK game, probably wont get another one for 6 months and by god, I WILL win it even if I have to use methods I'm not proud of. I notice you didn't answer the question.

Hey Zang, clearly I read the thread to be able to drag a quote up from somewhere.

Unvote Vote Twistedspoon

Do not like the hammer yesterday. Do like Chairs case on him, read it seems legit.

Why does Twistedspoon have 2 votes?

I'm just going to go with it and pretend I understand why somebody had a lecture on that.

now that bb has flipped town, i no longer believe parama and kanye are confirmed town.

Why is this?

[Twistedspoon]

you don't like my hammer yesterday?

so in a position where either you or BB was going to be lynched who would you have chosen?

[Johhog]

What kind of question is that Spoon? Haylen was never a real lynch candidate yesterday, was she?

You

was though.

[Lurconis]

Sorry everyone busier weekend then I thought it would be, I will have a post up later this afternoon.

[Zang]

voting a dead player?

Hey Haylen, are you SK? Cause even mafia wouldn't have drawn attention to themselves like that.

Post 123 Iso 5
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p3397221

Most of this post is just him basically taking everyone else's posts and agreeing with them.

blatant misrep

What about the rest of Chair's case? Are you going to ignore it or are you going to defend yourself?

[Twistedspoon]

What kind of question is that Spoon? Haylen was never a real lynch candidate yesterday, was she?

You

was though.

that's exactly what I'm saying

if you were in my position would you let yourself be lynched or BB?

[Twistedspoon]

voting a dead player?

Hey Haylen, are you SK? Cause even mafia wouldn't have drawn attention to themselves like that.

Post 123 Iso 5
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p3397221

Most of this post is just him basically taking everyone else's posts and agreeing with them.

blatant misrep

What about the rest of Chair's case? Are you going to ignore it or are you going to defend yourself?

chair is entitled to his opinions

but they are just that

[Johhog]

What kind of question is that Spoon? Haylen was never a real lynch candidate yesterday, was she?

You

was though.

that's exactly what I'm saying

if you were in my position would you let yourself be lynched or BB?

Oh nevermind then, I thought you was talking to Haylen.

[Twistedspoon]

What kind of question is that Spoon? Haylen was never a real lynch candidate yesterday, was she?

You

was though.

that's exactly what I'm saying

if you were in my position would you let yourself be lynched or BB?

Oh nevermind then, I thought you was talking to Haylen.

well i was, it was the same analogy

anyone would have done what I did in my position

[Chair]

My argument on that point was that:
1) If you believed that BBmolla was town
2) If you are town

You would have pushed way harder for another lynch. Yet you allowed the BB bandwagon to stay. You focused only on the claims and stopped pushing your strongest fos (Zang). Then even though you state that you would rather have BBmolla alive instead of Parama, you don't actually place a vote, or do anything about the BB bandwagon.

[Twistedspoon]

i thought one of them was scum
I still do

I was happy with a BB lynch so why not hammer/lynch him so we have conf.scum parama tommrow if he does flip town?

[camn]

slow weekend indeed.

Haylen

- 2

( Johhog Zang )

Chair

- 1

( PeregrineV )

twistedspoon

- 5

( Parama kanyeknowsbest Lurconis Chair Haylen )

Parama

- 1

( twistedspoon )

NOT VOTING:

( fishythefish RedPanda )

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
Deadline is

THURS, SEPTEMBER 29th

, 8pm MY TIME.. . Or whenever I get around to it.

[RedPanda]

are town even making a rational decision here? just the wagon on twistedspoon proves hes not scum. it is so obvious scum are on the wagon and theyre aiming for another mislynch.

BBmolla - 7 ( Parama Johhog kanyeknowsbest Lurconis fishythefish Zang twistedspoon )
twistedspoon - 5 ( Parama kanyeknowsbest Lurconis Chair Haylen )

three people on both wagons

VOTE PARAMA