camn's temperamental - Mini 1232 - GAME OVER

[Lurconis]

@Twisted at the end of yesterday you seemed to think the existence of two cops was a real possibility then today you voted Param without explanation, what made you change your mind?

[RedPanda]

another interesting note -

BB flipped town. why did parama investigate chair and not twistedspoon ? just seems to me like a scumcop searching for powerroles. most of you assume parama is town because he tunneled on bb so hard if bb flipped town it'd be suicide for him. classic wifom.

[Parama]

Because I don't inspect people that are heavily suspected by multiple people? That'd be a waste. Regardless of the rather useless nature of my role.

Hey Red. If there was a wagon on me, would that disprove that I was scum?
What makes me a better vote than kanye or Lurconis?

[Twistedspoon]

@Twisted at the end of yesterday you seemed to think the existence of two cops was a real possibility then today you voted Param without explanation, what made you change your mind?

see post #471

Like I've said, the BB flip woke me up and I realised I had been deluded to believe in 2 cops and that small glimmer of ignorant optimism is now gone since BB has flipped town

[Lurconis]

^Sorry must of missed it.

So I thought about this and decided this may be for the best so town can move on. When BB flipped town I was convinced Parama was scum and was ready to come into this day guns ablazing. Sathoris's flip changed my mind. The reason is I also am a Town Watcher. The fact that there was two of us made me think double roles may be a part of the flavor.

I'm voting Twisted cause of the seeming change of opinion of there could be two cops to there can't be two cops.

I will

unvote

for now. I want to reread the thread before placing my vote to see if i can pick up anything I may of missed.

[kanyeknowsbest]

why would you claim that. there was zero chance parama was going to be lynched on the basis of being a second name cop, despite what twistedspoon (the largest wagon) suggested.

[Twistedspoon]

2 watchers is different to 2 cops

although I do see where you're coming from with this double mechanic thing (even if the claim was uncalled for). Maybe it matches the psycology theme and is like a split personality theme or something. I don't know

going to sleep now. May change my vote tommorow. Still thing 2 cops is very broken though (perhaps even more so with 2 watchers)

[Twistedspoon]

actually, why can't there be 2 flavour/name cops but one of them a scum cop?

that keeps with the double roles theme and doesn't make the setup skewy

[kanyeknowsbest]

Twistedspoon, day two and still vastly overestimating the power of the lowly name cop in a setup where the origin of the names are explained and obvious.

[Twistedspoon]

fine, so let's lynch him now if name cops are overrated

[kanyeknowsbest]

great argument, lynch someone because his role isn't useful. whos got the hammer yall.

[RedPanda]

great argument, lynch someone because his role isn't useful. whos got the hammer yall.

why are you convinced parama is a town cop? you had problems with bb being a town cop.

[RedPanda]

Because I don't inspect people that are heavily suspected by multiple people? That'd be a waste. Regardless of the rather useless nature of my role.

Hey Red. If there was a wagon on me, would that disprove that I was scum?
What makes me a better vote than kanye or Lurconis?

Just the fact that bb got mislynched and were already rushing into another lynch proves twistedspoons not scum.
all three of you seem seem like scum to me. you and kanye even more than lurconis. and your actually telling me that your so sure twisteds scum? theres no chance he can flip town? hes a prime suspect so what? there's still no proof hes definite scum. maybe your investigation of him could have shed some light on his role and we could vote with more information but no you investigate chair. If you were town cop your first priority would be to make sure our next lynch hits the mark not investigate other roles. that just proves your scumcop.

[camn]

work work work

Haylen

- 2

( Johhog Zang )

Chair

- 1

( PeregrineV )

twistedspoon

- 4

( Parama kanyeknowsbest Chair Haylen )

Parama

- 2

( twistedspoon RedPanda )

NOT VOTING:

( Lurconis fishythefish )

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
Deadline is

THURS, SEPTEMBER 29th

, 8pm MY TIME.. . Or whenever I get around to it.

[PeregrineV]

I'm glad to see the initiative, troops!

Chair, I will peruse your report, and you are relieved of latrine duty until such time as it is duly authenticated.

Haylen, son, I don't know where you hail from, but we do not desecrate the memory of our fallen comrades.

Unvote.
Vote: Chair

Promote: Zang to Private First Class

for some right thinking.

Note: This is a temporary promotion pending a full background check.

Mixup in the orders:

Unvote: Chair
Vote: Haylen

Checking Chair case/links now.

[Zang]

chair is entitled to his opinions

but they are just that

So. your not going to even bother to defend yourself?

Unvote
Vote: Twistedspoon

are town even making a rational decision here? just the wagon on twistedspoon proves hes not scum. it is so obvious scum are on the wagon and theyre aiming for another mislynch

Why do you think that he is town?

The reason is I also am a Town Watcher.

What is your role name?

all three of you seem seem like scum to me. you and kanye even more than lurconis.

Does Lucronis' watcher claim change this?

[Johhog]

Red's play is interesting, I'd like to see where it leads. I read him as town for now.

Lurconis claim is scummy though. Sathoris was a Town

Watcher

. Lurconis claims to be a Town

Watcher

. But BBmolla was a Town

Name Cop

. But Parama, he claims to be a Town

Flavour Cop

. Lurconis theory about dual roles makes no sense, as his role name is the same as Sathoris. DOES NOT COMPUTE.

VOTE: Lurconis

And if he's scum Parama probably is too ftr, looking like Lurconis is trying to save his ass. Which is weird, because I'm reading Parama as town. Oh well, that's it for now.

[Parama]

...
Johhog, can you think of another role name for Watcher? No? Didn't think so. It's a role that's a lot more common than a flavor cop/name cop and thus has a more universal accepted standard name.
You know what I think this game is about? It's a big gigantic middle finger to mod WIFOM. Role names are all off a chart. Dual roles everywhere. It's like mind screw, except with a relatively simple setup.

[Johhog]

Plenty that could be used, yeah. "Spectator", "Witness", "Viewer", maybe even "Looker". Well, I don't buy that part of your explanation.

[Johhog]

BTW, where is PeregrineV?

[Twistedspoon]

chair is entitled to his opinions

but they are just that

So. your not going to even bother to defend yourself?

Unvote
Vote: Twistedspoon

is it scummy to not defend myself?

interesting theory here

[Parama]

Flavor Cop and Name Cop are both standard role names, where as all of those are not.

[Haylen]

I've never seen a name cop in a game.

[Fishythefish]

I've been on V/LA. I'm not any more. Hooray! Not much time, but this is what jumps out at me from today:

Twisted why are you voting me BTW? At the end of yesterday you said you could see two cops... yet now you're voting me so...

i thought i could but then the flip woke me up and i realised 2 cops was bizzare again

What? So before BB flipped what he claimed, you thought BB and Parama were town. When he flipped, you realised that was unlikely. That makes no sense whatsoever. Your sudden certainty that Parama is scum is really off, when yesterday you thought both cops were town.

This particularly clashes with my feelings on the matter - I thought that
a) 2 cops was unlikely.
b) Parama counterclaiming as scum was unlikely.
Now that BB has flipped town, I'm pretty torn about how I feel, but coming down on the side of "Parama just wouldn't counterclaim as scum there". I find it incredibly unlikely that the flip would make anyone consider 2 cops

less

likely.

To desperately justify "2 cops is impossible" you also seem to be equating namecops to cops. In a game where namecops are practically confirmed to be rather useless. Your play today doesn't convince me at all.

I'll read over Chair's case and look at spoon on day 1 tomorrow. Right now his wagon looks justified to me.

[Lurconis]

Well I just finished rereading and Twisted is still coming up my number one suspect. Chairs case makes sense to me and the fact that you are at L-1 and not even trying to defend yourself seems like scum throwing in the towel.

BBMollas post 427 seems pretty apt as well it did seem pretty apt as well.

I don't want to hammer before you even have a chance to defend so I will hold off until you can post again but that is where i am currently.

@Kanye You and Sathois engaged in some verbal sparring yesterday and you suggested a rope for him now that you know he is town have you gone back to read his posts in a new light and if so what are your opinions on his thoughts now?