Double Vote Mafia -Mini 1239- Over

[AurorusVox]

So why are you trying to make it look like you're only just starting to support it in #272, with "I

will

upport your lynch"?

[AurorusVox]

And 1v1s are great for town because there are less scum than town.

[nintendoaddict1]

"For towns 1v1s are a great deal."
What?

Also, I'm pretty sure I AM supporting your lynch. Am I somehow Not supporting your lynch? I meant to be.

Unvote, unvote.

Vote: Nopony Special
Vote: AuVox

Whoa, dejavu. Because, I unvoted my votes and then voted for the exact same players.

I think he meant that for Town, losing 1 town and 1 scum is good.

[Voidedmafia]

Vox, can you at least admit you're not doing a great job this game (though better than NS so far, of course)?

Yes, we get it, you want us to be your scumteam this game. Yet you don't have much of anything to back yourself up.

Let me see if I can find your cases:

Whiskers - First part is most likely where she leaves that "AV is scummy" question hanging. And because she's not voting you despite saying you're scum. And because her trying to correct Nin and is railing against the double lynch (with a completely justified reason; I wouldn't want to waste the double-lynch this early, either).

Nin - Um...Not following up on voting KJ post-game-start, which you pretty much did the same thing I did (TOWN DOESN'T GO FOR THEIR NON-SCUMMY PEOPLE, HE'S TOWN. OWAIT, THERE'S NO PRO-TOWN MOTIVE, HE'S SCUM!). Minus the re-reading part, of course.

Oh, and because he mixed up two words. One good thing for you on that last one is that you're not blowing up over this like Nobody is right now. Props. (OMG I'M COMPLIMENTING YOU WHILE I'M CALLING YOU SCUM! WAFFLING!)

me - Changing my view of your after going through two pages worth of a re-read (lolwut?), claiming I'm waffling on you (when I'm not), and...what else?

Nin: Well, at lease you admitted you were wrong.

For Whiskers, you've got maybe 1 good point. For nin, you don't have any, and for me you don't have any.

*slow clap*

NS: Jeez, man, lighten up, will you? Since when did you become Mr. English Nazi?

[Voidedmafia]

Oops. Put the comment toward Nin next to NS.

[Whiskers]

Yeah, great. That's why we trade power roles, out the cop with a guilty to catch a mafia.

But I am town. I don't know if

you

are town. I don't

think

you are town. I don't think you are town

so much

that I want you lynched.

You claim to be town. You also have a long list of other players that you'd be happy to go out with-- all townies, I presume.
If you are town, then your going out with me will not service nor benefit the town in any way.

As for, "I will support your lynch," I mean, I don't see scum motivation in your bullshit (except for townpoints and a last chance at being saved, perhaps), but I will push for your lynch because I think you're using wifom or... something.

[Voidedmafia]

...or something?

what's that something?

[AurorusVox]

Voided, you're right, I'm been playing the paragon of townie that I can play when I'm scum.
I historically suck as town and doing overthoughtful analysis and long intricate posts never got me anywhere, so I'm trying a more rough and tumble approach that I think is proving successful (obv I can't tell yet since none of you have flipped yet).
This is one of the first games I'm trying this new playstyle in so I expect it will have unwanted side affects like, making me look scummy. But if I'm right (like I think I am) and the scum start rolling over, one after another, I'll be vindicated in the end. It's a shame I've started looking scummy today or else I might have not had to sacrifice myself to get you all lynched :\

[AurorusVox]

*first line should have read; "I'm not playing"

[Whiskers]

I don't know what the something was. I was late for class and ran there after posting that. HOWEVER. I am back. Give me a bit, I'll turn off my music and think about it.

______________

Nope, look. Just because I can't see scum motivation in his bullshit, It doesn't make me think he's not scum. It makes me question my read. I do a double-take. And all I can figure is that that's the point. You're using... reverse psychology? Wifom, I guess. But I don't trust you and I won't fall for it. When you say, "Double-lynch ME, AND somepony else!" I can see the motivation being there for dumbtown, but not for scum. So,

There's

the motivation-- to look like dumbtown, play to that meta later.

Now, your whole thing where you're changing your playstyle.
"Oh man, I'm trying this great new approach, but I don't know if it's great yet. Also, I hate to sacrifice myself, because I'm using this great new approach, but if I have to sacrifice myself to catch scum, that's what I'll do. Even though the sacrifice of me has no bearing on whether or not I catch scum, and I might not catch scum anyway (because I don't know how effective this great new approach is)."

By the way, do you have a case on me? On us? I'm hoping you flip scum mainly because I'd like to add these two to my list of probclears. I've been on a scum team when somepony else calls it Day 1. I don't fight it, I ignore it. I've seen what happens when a townie calls a scumteam, and sir,

you do not have it.

I know this for a fact because I am, IN fact, Not scum, and therefore, not part of Any scumteam.

Give me your case.
Come At Me, Bro.

[Voidedmafia]

Give me your case.
Come At Me, Bro.

'Cause baby tonight, Aurorus's gonna kill your soul again!
'Cause baby tonight, grab your rope, gun and bolt again!

...*ahem* sorry, randomly remembered that Minecraft parody song.

Still, don't really feel like going to see if this really is different play of yours, but I'm not really too trusting. If you are, sucks for you cuz you're just making yourself look scummier; if not, nice try fooling us.

Also, you fail to address my previous post.

[Voidedmafia]

Also, NS, even if I really feel like your case is very underwhelming after all that hounding on Whiskers, that doesn't explain why you had to disregard positng about ANYTHING ELSE.

Sure, you've got posts not about WHiskers here and there, and sure, some of your posts with Whiskers in them aren't all about whiskers. 9 or 10 posts out of your 21 (nearly HALF your posts) detail either asking Whiskers to answer the question or commenting about how she's not, and of those, 4 (5 if you count your case post) (which is also nearly half of those posts) are directly asking Whiskers if English is her native language. And even the posts that aren't all Whiskers don't really do much to promote anything in regards to content (ISO 6 is defining EBWOP for Christine, 8 is fluff, 10 is just about the best post you made up till your case*, 11 really only contains corrections to what I said and isn't helpful at all, 12 is fluff again, 14 (imo) really sounds like a bad justification for this tunneling; only ISO 16-19 actually get anywhere in regards to content).

NS, you've been basically tunneling for some rather lame reasonings, and not really helping the town scumhunt on other people. If your case had been a little bit better, I'd be more wavering on whether or not I'd unvote you, but it isn't, so I'm keeping my votes on NS and Vox.

* Note that I'm not calling your case good, I'm just saying that out of your 21 posts, it's the best one you've made this game.

[Voidedmafia]

EBWOP: And even then, 16-19 are all about WHiskers and not anyone else.

10, 20, and 21 are practically the only posts you've made that have anything worth mentioning in regards to any of us that aren't Whiskers.

[AurorusVox]

@Voided - Do you want me to self meta? What do I need to respond to, I probably ignored it because it was scummy etc

@Whiskers - My scumread on you is based mostly on the post in which you called me scummy but didn't vote me, and instead placed two RVSs. I'll give you something more if you want but I don't have time atm (just started teacher training yesterday and they're already piling it on)

[Voidedmafia]

No, I don't expect you to self-meta, but I'm surprised you're ignoring my post where I basicaly shoot down your reasons for calling Whiskers, Nin, and myself scummy. I mean, I did essentially lay out all three cases, right?

[AurorusVox]

Yeah less sold on uScum than Nin and Whiskers but I'll need to re-read to see if its just because you've been good recently against a shifty opening. Perchance there was some OMGUS thrown in by accident.

Nin made it look like he had a good reason to vote for KJ in pre-game. He even placed a vote before we were allowed, that's how much he wanted to look useful.
I say "look useful" rather than "be useful" because when the game started, he never put his vote down on KJ.
Why not? I can't see ANY reason for town to do that. If he's found something scummy, vote it (same as Whiskers). If he's not, then WHY was he voting with reasons at the start? I don't really know what ad hom means but I assume it's something to do with KJ's scummy behaviour regarding hiphop in pre-game. In effect, it's as though he's saying KJ was scummy pre-game but not worthy of a vote when the game actually got going. It doesn't make sense from town. At all.

My point against Whiskers is a very valid one. Why wouldn't town vote their scum read?

[nintendoaddict1]

Nin made it look like he had a good reason to vote for KJ in pre-game. He even placed a vote before we were allowed, that's how much he wanted to look useful.
I say "look useful" rather than "be useful" because when the game started, he never put his vote down on KJ.
Why not? I can't see ANY reason for town to do that. If he's found something scummy, vote it (same as Whiskers). If he's not, then WHY was he voting with reasons at the start? I don't really know what ad hom means but I assume it's something to do with KJ's scummy behaviour regarding hiphop in pre-game. In effect, it's as though he's saying KJ was scummy pre-game but not worthy of a vote when the game actually got going. It doesn't make sense from town. At all.

If you don't even know what ad hom is, why are you calling people scummy for placing a vote pre-game based on ad hom but then not following up on it after game start?

FYI, ad hom is using pictures/memes etc. which kj was doing on page two, thus, I placed a vote on him. Whether the game had started or not, it was an RVS vote. A concept which you seem to find difficult to understand. In case you didn't know, RVS stands for Random Voting Stage. The vote was random. Meaning I didn't vote for him because I though it was scummy. I voted for him because I don't like ad hom.

I don't know how many more times I have to say this to you and frankly I'm getting tired of it. It was not a serious vote.

[AurorusVox]

Why don't you like ad hom?

[nintendoaddict1]

Why don't you like ad hom?

Because it does nothing to move the game forward.

[killerjester]

Hold the fuckin' phone. My picture was an ad hom? What are you smoking?

This whole game I thought you were referring to this post as an ad hom.

I sincerely reject the premise that the picture was an ad hom.

[AurorusVox]

Is his definition of ad hom wrong then?

Anyway, if you've voted someone for doing something you dislike, the vote is no longer random.

[Whiskers]

fyi, killerjester, the post complaining about adhom and voting for you was immediately after your second pic.

Also, AV, I only have two votes. I can't vote for everypony.

[killerjester]

Is his definition of ad hom wrong then?

Yes

[Voidedmafia]

I'm pretty sure ad hom is attacking the user directly as a argument (you are black/gay/*insert slur* therefore your argument is invalid).

I think the main problem is that that question is too open-ended to determine whether or not she/he (w/e your sex is) was really trying to call you scum or not. I'll give you that it sure looks like she's trying to paint three people scummy while only have 2 votes to paint with, mind, but I do feel that it's not as straightforward as you are probably thinking.

[nintendoaddict1]

Is his definition of ad hom wrong then?

Anyway, if you've voted someone for doing something you dislike, the vote is no longer random.

Well I guess someone told me the wrong definition, then.

Yes, it is. Even RVS votes have reasons. But they are never game-related.

Example:

"I'm voting you because you are in a lot of games with me."
"I'm voting you because nintendo sucks."
"I'm voting you because you have numbers in your name."

Those are reasons, but they are also random.

Vote Hiraki

because he's evil.

That was an RVS vote. See how I did it?

Oh lord we're only on page two and there's ad hom...

vote killerjester

Regardless of whether or not it was ad hom(which I guess it wasn't) I still don't like it when people use pictures like that. That does not mean I think posting pictures like that makes someone scum.