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Post Post #875 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:00 am

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Also, Bunny is calling Fate out for a meta of fake-claiming masons as scum, so it makes sense that you would argue that she is extra scummy regardless of your actual alignment.
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Post Post #876 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:31 am

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In post 874, Banshee wrote:
In post 872, mykonian wrote:Banshee, if you want iso's, there are a few other interesting ones.

And iso's hardly work if you want to see bunnies passivity.


I think Dramonic is likely the SK. If you wanna go ahead and lynch him based on that analysis it's okay, but I think he's just as likely to hit scum as town and maybe would even try to if we asked him nicely.


mmm, could be. He had little interaction with anyone, which reads more like mafia to me (avoiding his buddies). If you think he's an SK, you would lynch on the spot. That would mean less kills at night, which gives us instantly more mislynches.
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Post Post #877 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:44 am

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In post 876, mykonian wrote:That would mean less kills at night, which gives us instantly more
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Mmmmm.
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Post Post #878 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:13 am

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Who the fuck cares why isn't BunnyLover dead yet.

Scooby you sheeped me yesterday

We lynched scum

Would you shut the fuck up with this Dram lynch already
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Post Post #879 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:45 am

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In post 877, scooby wrote:
In post 876, mykonian wrote:That would mean less kills at night, which gives us instantly more
mislynches
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Mmmmm.


Oh you noob. And I say this never in a insulting way, but I definately mean it this time.

The less shots there are at night, the more opportunities town has at day to lynch scum. Usually this is counted in the amount of times you can be wrong from then on. The amount of mislynches you have left. Docs have the opportunity to increase that number, just as lynching an entire antitown faction will do.

Plus that you are manipulating this stuff by for once not posting anything but just bolding one word.
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Post Post #880 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:58 am

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@Mykonian:


Do you and Fate have daytalk?
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Post Post #881 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:07 am

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no we don't.
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Post Post #882 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:08 am

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In post 879, mykonian wrote:
In post 877, scooby wrote:
In post 876, mykonian wrote:That would mean less kills at night, which gives us instantly more
mislynches
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Mmmmm.


Oh you noob. And I say this never in a insulting way, but I definately mean it this time.

The less shots there are at night, the more opportunities town has at day to lynch scum. Usually this is counted in the amount of times you can be wrong from then on. The amount of mislynches you have left. Docs have the opportunity to increase that number, just as lynching an entire antitown faction will do.

Plus that you are manipulating this stuff by for once not posting anything but just bolding one word.
vote scooby

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Post Post #883 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:09 am

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In post 878, Fate wrote:Who the fuck cares why isn't BunnyLover dead yet.

Scooby you sheeped me yesterday

We lynched scum

Would you shut the fuck up with this Dram lynch already

I'm not even voting Dram anymore.

I don't think Bunny is scum. His paranoia is at least justified, because he saw you doing it in another game AS SCUM.

Why is this so hard to understand?
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Post Post #884 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:12 am

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In post 882, scooby wrote:
In post 879, mykonian wrote:
In post 877, scooby wrote:
In post 876, mykonian wrote:That would mean less kills at night, which gives us instantly more
mislynches
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Mmmmm.


Oh you noob. And I say this never in a insulting way, but I definately mean it this time.

The less shots there are at night, the more opportunities town has at day to lynch scum. Usually this is counted in the amount of times you can be wrong from then on. The amount of mislynches you have left. Docs have the opportunity to increase that number, just as lynching an entire antitown faction will do.

Plus that you are manipulating this stuff by for once not posting anything but just bolding one word.
vote scooby

lol u mad


Yep. Being stupid is no offence. Manipulation is.

Seriously, you thought you could sell that I wanted to mislynch people?
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Post Post #885 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:17 am

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@Mykonian
: I notice that you and Fate apparently disagree on some scum suspects, which makes sense if you don't have daytalk imo. Who are your top few scum suspects in rough order? (I don't need town reads right now, but whatever you want to give would be appreciated.)
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Post Post #886 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:22 am

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Post Post #887 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:34 am

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In post 885, Banshee wrote:
@Mykonian
: I notice that you and Fate apparently disagree on some scum suspects, which makes sense if you don't have daytalk imo. Who are your top few scum suspects in rough order? (I don't need town reads right now, but whatever you want to give would be appreciated.)


I'm having trouble on the interactions, because they can never be together in a scumteam, but scooby, dram, bunny, thejakalope are all at the top of the list. SC apparently plays more often like this, I have little experience with that, and for CSL goes the same. He used to be more active, but I think he no longer actually likes to play games and is just filling them up. That leaves out Oman, who I think gave up on the game already. This is nothing like him. Doubt he is scum, but he is an outsider.
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Post Post #888 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:21 am

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Do you think that the interactions between Dramonic and Scooby were distancing? How about between Nocmen and Scooby before Nocmen started sheeping him?

Is Bunny usually this lurky and non-contributory?

These questions are really for anyone, actually.

I do have one game of town-meta for TheJakalope (and he has scum-meta on me) so I do want to look at him more closely. At first read this looks like similar play from him though.
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Post Post #889 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:40 am

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In post 874, Banshee wrote:
In post 872, mykonian wrote:Banshee, if you want iso's, there are a few other interesting ones.

And iso's hardly work if you want to see bunnies passivity.


I've read the whole game. Bunny is lurky and buddies Fate repeatedly. People go after (her? him? I can't tell its gender) quite frequently and one of them was Xvart, as I recall.

On the positive side for Nocmen, Xvart was pretty willing to see him hammered. Could be bussing, maybe not. But the whole recent behaviour of Nocmen around Scooby argues that at least one of them is scum.

I think Dramonic is likely the SK. If you wanna go ahead and lynch him based on that analysis it's okay, but I think he's just as likely to hit scum as town and maybe would even try to if we asked him nicely.

I am STILL WAITING for Nocmen to answer my question. I know he read it, because he quoted it in his non-answer to me.


I did answer it.

I'm willing to take out dram, scooby, and jackalope today. Not liking any of them. Maybe Bunny, but I would much much more rather take out one of those three first.
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Post Post #890 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:45 am

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That has nothing to do with my question.

I asked, Why are you voting Dramonic right now? What was the impetus that pushed you into thinking, hey, Dramonic is scum! I'll vote for scum!

What is the reason you are voting him, Nocmen?
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Post Post #891 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:02 am

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In post 888, Banshee wrote:Do you think that the interactions between Dramonic and Scooby were distancing? How about between Nocmen and Scooby before Nocmen started sheeping him?

Is Bunny usually this lurky and non-contributory?

These questions are really for anyone, actually.

I do have one game of town-meta for TheJakalope (and he has scum-meta on me) so I do want to look at him more closely. At first read this looks like similar play from him though.


Nah, I'd say the way Dram went into scooby was too much of an escape from the game to make it on his buddy. The other way around I have to assume dram always plays like this, but it's the same reasoning. It took too much of their time to make it scum-scum. It was abused to make them look active.

I honestly don't have a clue on the second, would have to reread that.

Bunny, as I remember, has always been mislynch food. It has been some time that I played with bunny, probably pre-break. I'd bet it lurking was a part of it, but I couldn't tell for sure. Lurking is something different from passivity though.
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Post Post #892 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:11 am

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In post 884, mykonian wrote:
In post 882, scooby wrote:
In post 879, mykonian wrote:
In post 877, scooby wrote:
In post 876, mykonian wrote:That would mean less kills at night, which gives us instantly more
mislynches
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Mmmmm.


Oh you noob. And I say this never in a insulting way, but I definately mean it this time.

The less shots there are at night, the more opportunities town has at day to lynch scum. Usually this is counted in the amount of times you can be wrong from then on. The amount of mislynches you have left. Docs have the opportunity to increase that number, just as lynching an entire antitown faction will do.

Plus that you are manipulating this stuff by for once not posting anything but just bolding one word.
vote scooby

lol u mad


Yep. Being stupid is no offence. Manipulation is.

Seriously, you thought you could sell that I wanted to mislynch people?

I misunderstood. Sorry.
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Post Post #893 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:28 am

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In post 890, Banshee wrote:That has nothing to do with my question.

I asked, Why are you voting Dramonic right now? What was the impetus that pushed you into thinking, hey, Dramonic is scum! I'll vote for scum!

What is the reason you are voting him, Nocmen?


It's not a town reaction in my eyes.
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Post Post #894 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:05 am

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Bunny - 4 - Fate, Katsuki, CSL, Oman
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Post Post #895 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:07 am

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Elli, CSL and Katsuki have been prodded.
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Post Post #896 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:42 am

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Hmm..

I rather dislike Bunny's play, but Dramonic seems rather.. off. Going to re-read.. at the moment I'd prefer a Dramonic lynch.
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Post Post #897 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:45 am

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In post 893, Nocmen wrote:
In post 890, Banshee wrote:That has nothing to do with my question.

I asked, Why are you voting Dramonic right now? What was the impetus that pushed you into thinking, hey, Dramonic is scum! I'll vote for scum!

What is the reason you are voting him, Nocmen?


It's not a town reaction in my eyes.


What SPECIFICALLY was not a town reaction in your eyes? The initial reaction, or something else?
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Post Post #898 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:48 am

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In post 891, mykonian wrote:Bunny, as I remember, has always been mislynch food. It has been some time that I played with bunny, probably pre-break. I'd bet it lurking was a part of it, but I couldn't tell for sure. Lurking is something different from passivity though.


Is passivity similar to being conciliatory?

I think she was fairly actively trying to push the idea that Fate and you were scumbuddies trying to fake mason buddies throughout the last day and getting nowhere (rightly so, too, since that's not a claim that requires testing right now and may never need to be tested). So I don't think she was being passive there. I do think she was lurky and she seemed to be buddying up to Fate early on in a way I was suspicious of on first read.

Just trying to clarify what you mean by passivity.
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