Imperial Intrigue (Endgame, OUT OF NOWHERE)

[StrangerCoug]

To the people voting for SK - please explain WHY he is scum, more than 'gambitzzz' or 'daykill omg'

My main gripe other than those is that I don't like his interactions with David Xanatos regarding what exactly a loyalist is.

[AGar]

well, monk did confirm it. so if david flips scum (which I highly doubt) monk would be a great target.

SleepyKrew is really hard to read, but I have to think he is town.

Vote: AGar

Haven't heard much from you. Where do you stand amidst all this?

So wait.. you're reading the thread? Because... I've been posting pretty regularly. I'll let you do the legwork.

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To the people voting for SK - please explain WHY he is scum, more than 'gambitzzz' or 'daykill omg'

My main gripe other than those is that I don't like his interactions with David Xanatos regarding what exactly a loyalist is.

So you're going to side with the player who freaked out and panicked because he couldn't properly read a sample role PM and twisted facts way out of context over the player who actually read the facts and knew what he was talking about.

Aaaand you're voting for someone over gambits and a daykill...

Please start... y'know... playing.

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Not buying the mason claim. Confirmation from Monk isn't going to do much to change that. Yeahno.

[AGar]

well, monk did confirm it. so if david flips scum (which I highly doubt) monk would be a great target.

SleepyKrew is really hard to read, but I have to think he is town.

Vote: AGar

Haven't heard much from you. Where do you stand amidst all this?

So wait.. you're reading the thread? Because... I've been posting pretty regularly. I'll let you do the legwork.

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To the people voting for SK - please explain WHY he is scum, more than 'gambitzzz' or 'daykill omg'

My main gripe other than those is that I don't like his interactions with David Xanatos regarding what exactly a loyalist is.

So you're going to side with the player who freaked out and panicked because he couldn't properly read a sample role PM and twisted facts way out of context over the player who actually read the facts and knew what he was talking about.

Aaaand you're voting for someone over gambits and a daykill...

Please start... y'know... playing.

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Not buying the mason claim. Confirmation from Monk isn't going to do much to change that. Yeahno.

[AGar]

Yay double post.

[Wraith]

Hmmm, what I might do for votecount flavor in the future is alternate between what I've been doing (dramaticizing in-game events) and random setting elaboration (ie bios, brief histories, whatever)

[David Xanatos]

Uuh, AGar. Are you denying that in the sample PM, showing a VT, the ROLE is LOYALIST?

To me, that implied that VTs were loyalists, to man.

I feel like a broken record here. How are you not grasping this?

[Magua]

Magua. Get back on David.

Nah. I don't like David's play. However...

While scum do claim mason, it's much more of a D3 or D4 thing. Especially given the flavor of the game -- lots of intrigues and vendettas and the like revolving around multiple heirs -- I'm certain that there are other players who will feel the need to kill David, so I see zero reason to lynch him. The claim is early, and I don't see scum motivation to put a target on their back saying "Hey, if you're an aspiring heir to the throne, you need to knock me off!"

Much prefer my current tclawren vote.
I'm also up for voting Empking.

Soda, AGar, and Nero Cain are townreads.

[SleepyKrew]

How is Soda a townread after the last few pages?
Also, you were voting him quite a while after his claim...
Don't do this to me Magua, please don't...

[SleepyKrew]

Mod, are all Town roles Loyalists?

[Magua]

How is Soda a townread after the last few pages?
Also, you were voting him quite a while after his claim...
Don't do this to me Magua, please don't...

I believe that I've outlined my thought processes to you enough in other games that you should be able to follow them here.

And I moved my vote once monk confirmed the claim. I'm not interested in moving it back.

[AGar]

Uuh, AGar. Are you denying that in the sample PM, showing a VT, the ROLE is LOYALIST?

To me, that implied that VTs were loyalists, to man.

I feel like a broken record here. How are you not grasping this?

Read this post

Also, if you weren't lying, your role PM would have also passed similar information along to you.

But your scum soooooo

[SleepyKrew]

David, what is your stance on RVS?

[manho]

i don't think lynching a claimed mason is good. and i think it is a town v town. we should go find other scum. will read the thread again when i have time.

[Wraith]

Mod, are all Town roles Loyalists?

And for the record: "Loyalist" and "Allied with House Argelev" and the like are synonymous with Town. Loyalist is also the name for VT. Imagine that.

lolololololololol

[Magua]

HEY.

GUYS.

WE ESTABLISHED ON PAGE 2 OR SOMETHING THAT DAVID IS NOT A LOYALIST.

ALL OF THE POINTLESS MINUTIAE LIKE WHETHER YOU WERE AT L-1 OR L-2 OR WHETHER ROLES CAN BE GROUPS OR SHIT LIKE THAT IS GODDAMN POINTLESS BECAUSE SCUM WILL CLAIM THEIR FAKECLAIM.

CAN WE GET AROUND TO ACTUALLY, Y'KNOW, SCUMHUNTING?

Srsly.

(Yes, Sleepy, I know exactly where you're going with the RVS question. Let it go. Bring it up again like D4 or something if you're still alive (protip: you won't be) and David's still alive (protip: he won't be))

[monk]

FullClaim:

Third Legion Stormtroopers Allied to the true Heir of the Throne. I have no night powers I know that David is as town as any can be, He's Moran Fucking Argelev and he's here to save the day!! I have Factional Talk with David we are basically the House of Argelev from the west.

[monk]

AGar, My job is basically to protect David, so if you want to lynch him then lynch me in his place, if he's scum then you get a two for one deal, if he's not then bad things will happen.

[vezokpiraka]

Yeah.

We can lynch monk and david together for being scum.
"Third Legion Stormtroopers Allied to the true Heir of the Throne." - monk

I see neither loyalist nor House Argelev in your claim. You are scum my friend.

unvote vote monk

[manho]

i think monk is a third-party anti-lyncher that win when someone survive.

SK and others that push the david-lynch hard maybe the other heir that has win-con including getting rid of the true heir.

[MacDougall]

vote: No lynch

[Empking]

Yeah.

We can lynch monk and david together for being scum.
"Third Legion Stormtroopers Allied to the true Heir of the Throne." - monk

I see neither loyalist nor House Argelev in your claim. You are scum my friend.

unvote vote monk

+1

Unvote, Vote: Monk

[Otolia]

Yeah.

We can lynch monk and david together for being scum.
"Third Legion Stormtroopers Allied to the true Heir of the Throne." - monk

I see neither loyalist nor House Argelev in your claim. You are scum my friend.

unvote vote monk

That's the proof, you have a personal agenda or that you are a terrible player who didn't read the thread.

VOTE: vezokpiraka

[David Xanatos]

I'm calling it now. Vezok is scum. It's far from good play to lynch a claimed Mason D1. Doubtless there are factions wanting to take a shot at us, therefore lynching one of us is simply giving them a free kill. I'm also about 90% on SK being Scum. Both Vezok and SK have been pushing heavily for the lynch even post Mason claim, with Vezok's vote on myself being so devoid of reasoning that I still can't find even the slightest basis beyond "I can hop on this bandwagon!". With that in mind.. Macho Dayvig from SK sounds like a semi-reasonable claim, although frankly I remain incredibly suspicious because of his BP inclusion at the start (hint: Macho means can't be Doc protected. That's directly contrary to being bulletproof.. BP doesn't need Doc, so it's worthless to make them Macho.).

Therefore, Vezok is the one standing out most to me right now.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Vezok

Empking, read the end of Monk's post. "I have Factional Talk with David we are basically the House of Argelev from the west."

When I crossed into Imperial lands, I was greeted by military units loyal to House Argelev on the border, since then, they've been acting as an honour guard.

AGar, Read this post.

It was me who asked for clarification. And here's the thing, why are you speculating about the information contained in my Role PM? I've already stated that I am an Argelev. I am not a Loyalist. I do however note you cherry-picked the response while ignoring the fact I was the one who asked him.

[gandalf5166]

David, the mod just confirmed that if your role doesn't say loyalist, you're not town. I suggest that you go ahead and trueclaim now.

[whispersilk]

Where did the mod say that?