Imperial Intrigue (Endgame, OUT OF NOWHERE)

[SleepyKrew]

Also Magus, you can't answer yes to an either/or question

[David Xanatos]

I know you have but I'm a little fucked right now and keep forgetting to ask what you mean.

I honestly don't really have one on RVS, it's just something that's done.. RQS I don't like though. I have a habit of telling people to fuck off when they try it.

Yourself?

[SleepyKrew]

'No stance' on RVS... Explain...

[Otolia]

If you can't, then you voted for me in order to blend in and thus you are scum.

That's lolworthy. "You went out on a limb to vote a player no one else was voting to blend in."

You claimed to not be a loyalist.
You claimed not to be of the house of (whatever)
That is a scum claim.

A quick ISO would have informed you that I claimed my name and the city I rule (Port of Mos Fovar) in my third post. I never claimed Loyalist because my actions are town-like that I don't need to claim it.

So why is me claiming to be the ruler of a port is scummy ? How is that ?

PS : Don't use "Wraith said it doesn't matter" to get out of the slump you are in right now.

[SleepyKrew]

Umm...
Mod said flavor doesn't matter.
Stop saying flavor matters.

[David Xanatos]

I've never played a game that didn't have an RVS. Even those that RQS was attempted in tended to have an RVS during/before.. I suppose I've never really thought about it, but it tends to get the game started better than everyone just staring at each other.

[SleepyKrew]

So hypothetically, if you were to be the first poster in a game, you'd kick off RVS?

[Otolia]

Umm...
Mod said flavor doesn't matter.
Stop saying flavor matters.

You don't understand do you ?

Empking said I was scum because I was the ruler of a port. That's downright stupid. It's not on the same scale as DX claim, not even one bit. He made a mistake and I won't give up until he can provide sufficient elements to back up his accusations. Which won't happen because he is scum or not aligned with the Loyalists directly (and both are lynch worthy from my PoV)

@SK : Your RVS questions are not that useful right now. You played your gambit and that's fine, but don't drag us in pseudo-discussions about Mafia techniques, it's not what we need right now. We need to lynch Empking. David Xanatos can wait another day as vezok can.

[David Xanatos]

Depends on the state I was in. I know you're referring to this game, which started at 3am, my time. I had full intentions of going to bed when I saw the email about the PM about the game starting, noticed noone had posted, so did so to get it on my active messages list. Then when I looked back, you'd posted that daykill, and kept me awake arguing (you bastard ).

[Empking]

Oto is deliberately misrepresenting me.

If Oto isn't a Loyalist and not of the right house then he's scum. Or in other words: He's scum.

[David Xanatos]

"And for the record: "Loyalist" and "Allied with House Argelev" and the like are synonymous with Town."

Allied implies that it's a unit or a town/city. Doesn't assure him to be scum.

[Empking]

Unvote

[Wraith]

Spoiler: Flavor

"What

[David]

says is true," said [/][monk]

. "I am the commander of the Third Legion, and we are loyal to the rightful heir."

[vezokpiraka]

snorted. "That can't be true. You yourself claimed you aren't a Loyalist, same as this so-called 'heir,'" he said. "We should execute these lying frauds and be done with it."

"I agree," said

[Empking]

. "This is obviously a Western plot to usurp the throne."

"What the

'feck

are you

scheissers

smoking?" asked

[David Xanatos]

, scowling. "Why would I need to confirm my loyalties TO MYSELF?"

"I'm with

[David]

on this one," agreed

[Otolia]

, nodding. "You're up to something,

[vezokpiraka]

."

"

Farfeck

,"

[gandalf5166]

cursed. "He has a damn point. If you're not a Loyalist,

you're

up to something."

"Bah," said

[Empking]

, throwing up his hands in resignation. "This sort of silly speculation about personal motives is just what our true enemies want: us squabbling amongst ourselves. I'm going to go with who I really think is a traitor instead of a hunch based on a technicality."

"Agreed. This is foolish, especially those accusing

[vezokpiraka]

," said

[Magua]

. "

[vezokpiraka]

is acting as he always has: foolishly. And any votes for him are foolish votes."

"What about

[Otolia?]

," asked

[Empking]

. "He claimed to be from Mos Forvar. He's obviously a traitor."

"Okay, first you go after

[monk]

for no reason, then you come after me?"

[Otolia]

shouted. "

Farfeck

. You're a traitor." The crowd was splitting into two different factions once again.

Sitting above them on the Burning Throne, the

Beran

chuckled quietly to himself.

Spoiler: Background

Avalon: Political Geography

The continent of Avalon has been at the center of World events for thousands of years, being the seat of advanced civilization, culture, and technological advancement. The political geography of Avalon today has its roots in the First Empire of the Duran, which exterminated many of Avalon's ancient ethnic groups and tribes while preserving or ignoring others, ultimately resulting in the formation of the nations that have endured to this day. The Duranic Imperium covers the vast majority of central Avalon, stretching form the Avalon Sea and Varannian Penninsula in the south to the Black Sea in the north, practically splitting the continent into two halves. In the West lies the Republic of Jukara, a representative democracy that has conflicted with the Duran for thousands of years, the roots of said conflict stem from ethnic wars and exterminations during the days of the First Empire, as well as major religious differences. Southwest of Jukara is the Confederation of Arkania, second-largest nation in the world and oldest representative democracy on the planet. Controlling vast amounts of land and even larger stockpiles of valuable natural resources, the isolationist Arkanians are the Imperium's fiercest economic competition (though they prefer to stay out of world affairs, until they interfere with their economic prosperity). West of Jukara, across the Bay of Benneria, lies the island nation of the same name, boasting the longest-lasting, unbroken monarchial line. Defeated in the Great War, both Jukara and Benneria have been wracked by economic depression and internal strife between socialist and nationalist political and paramilitary organizations. Arkania has not been as affected as her former allies, but is still plagued by the inevitable economic misfortunes that always follow defeat in such a long and brutal war.

In the East lies the Terran Empire, largest nation in the world. Though the Terrans possess strong ethnic and cultural ties to the Duran, the two nations have long been bitter enemies, with centuries of wars between them over the disputed border territories of Ralland and Terralon. Also defeated in the Great War, the Terran Empire has been split into many warring factions in an outright civil war, with socialists, nationalists, and royalists engaging in a battle royale for total control of the vast country. To the North, across the Black Sea, are various smaller, less powerful nation-states, the most notable of which is the Duranic ally of Starkain. A tough and gregarious people, the Starkish are descended from a race of marauders and raiders that terrorized the continent in the dark times after the fall of the First Empire, and are notorious for switching sides at a moment's notice. To the South, across the Avalon Sea, lies the continent of Troplica, the northern half of which is dominated by the endless Sand Seas. It is inhabited by smaller Malarite nation-states, although the penninsula in the northwestern region of the continent is home to the Antethian Empire, a steadfast and reliable ally of the Imperium.

No doubt many elements of this report may confuse the average reader. What is socialism? Nationalism? The Great War? Malarites? Duro-Jukaran religious differences? All will be explained in future reports.

Votecount 1.5

Empking

(5)

:

EtherealCookie, SleepyKrew, Magua, Otolia, manho

SleepyKrew

(4)

:

tclawren

,

David Xanatos

, kdowns,

gandalf5166

, JDGA,

MacDougall

,

manho

, whispersilk,

PeregrineV

,

Empking

, StrangerCoug,

SodaSpirit17

,

SodaSpirit17

David Xanatos

(3)

:

Magua

,

SleepyKrew

, tclawren, Nero Cain,

SodaSpirit17

,

Shinki

, AGar,

Empking

,

SodaSpirit17

,

vezokpiraka

,

Empking

Magua

(1)

:

monk

PeregrineV

(1)

:

gandalf5166

AGar

(1)

:

SodaSpirit17

monk

(1)

:

vezokpiraka,

Empking

vezokpiraka

(1)

:

Otolia

, David Xanatos,

manho

gandalf5166

(1)

:

kdowns

,

vezokpiraka

,

Shinki

, PeregrineV

Shinki

(0)

:

StrangerCoug

kdowns

(0)

:

EtherealCookie

tclawren

(0)

:

Magua

Otolia

(0)

:

gandalf5166

,

Empking

,

Empking

No Lynch

(1)

:

MacDougall

Not Voting

(5)

:

Bogre, MattP, Shinki, PeregrineV, Empking

Deadline is

October 11, 2011

With 23 alive it takes

12

to lynch.

I've been asked if this theme/flavor is from a source material. It is not. If some of you are like "What the fuck?", what I do when I'm not gaming, partying, working, or surfing the internet is make up fictional cultures. And I have a lot of fun doing it.

[Otolia]

Oto is deliberately misrepresenting me.

If Oto isn't a Loyalist and not of the right house then he's scum. Or in other words: He's scum.

You want me to claim I am a Loyalist ? You bet I am. Now and ever, my alignment can't be change. And don't start to whine about misrepresentation you are a better player than that.

[David Xanatos]

Emp, what is your stance on vezok?

[Empking]

Oto is deliberately misrepresenting me.

If Oto isn't a Loyalist and not of the right house then he's scum. Or in other words: He's scum.

You want me to claim I am a Loyalist ? You bet I am. Now and ever, my alignment can't be change. And don't start to whine about misrepresentation you are a better player than that.

No I already said that I meant the Beran part than the port itself. And you were pretending otherwise, that's complete misrepresentation.

DX: I've seen nothing scummy from him.

[SleepyKrew]

Totally nomming you for Best Flavor unless there's a COMPLETE quality drop-off.

David, I got all I needed. No more need for RVS discussion. Still scum, still lynching Emp.

[Magua]

@SleepyKrew:

Yes, I can answer "Yes" to an either/or question. In fact, I did.

@Empking:

Hi. Now, mod complaining about the flavor aside (since the mod is in fact reinforcing what I've already been saying), when you were going on about the ports, did you believe that scum have no fakeclaims in this game? Or did you believe that scum were too stupid to use fakeclaims provided to them?

@MacDougall:

Still curious about your No Lynch vote.

[Empking]

@Empking: Hi. Now, mod complaining about the flavor aside (since the mod is in fact reinforcing what I've already been saying), when you were going on about the ports, did you believe that scum have no fakeclaims in this game? Or did you believe that scum were too stupid to use fakeclaims provided to them?

Honestly? I wasn't think about that.

[SleepyKrew]

So I'm scummy enough to lynch AND townie enough to kill?
Well gee.

[Otolia]

No I already said that I meant the Beran part than the port itself. And you were pretending otherwise, that's complete misrepresentation.

I dare you to prove it. You used an excuse ('sorry can't remember names -derp') to say it was the Delmar part that makes me scummy when you said in your 2nd post that it is the port. Alright then, it's still as far-fetched as before but now, you can say why you thought it made me scum. But I suspect you can't because you lied about that. Or you crumbled for other purposes.

Who claimed the port house? They're prob scum too.

You voted twice for me without any informations (like you always do by the way)

Vote: Oto

The Factional is IGMEOY but I understand the basically now.

Unvote, Vote: Ot

[Empking]

"Who claimed the port

house

?"

Its the port

city

if you want to play it your way. I specifically said House.

[MattP]

Vote: Empking

He is currently the most scummy after reading through the thread.

[SleepyKrew]

Where the hell have you been?

[Wraith]

Where the hell have you been?

He's been having IRL problems. We've been talking for a couple days.