Mini 1247- Auction Mafia: Abandoned

[Empking]

On what grounds have you decided Shanba is town.

I call is Empkingatics.

There are probably three scum. And thirteen players. Therefore Magua and Shanba have a 100/169 chance of both being town.

And also, cut the damn rolefishing.

I wasn't rolefishing you were just very, very obvious.

[DeathRowKitty]

So when you said Magua could bid on it too, it wasn't because you thought he was town? (Oh, and by the way, you're 5/338 off on your probability)

Pro tip: It wasn't me that bid on the 50% inspect. No, I shouldn't have just said that, but it's so worth it to make you look like an idiot more than you already have.

[Empking]

So when you said Magua could bid on it too, it wasn't because you thought he was town? (Oh, and by the way, you're 5/338 off on your probability)

How?

Pro tip: It wasn't me that bid on the 50% inspect. No, I shouldn't have just said that, but it's so worth it to make you look like an idiot more than you already have.

So you're claiming to gbe playing in an anti-town fashion? OK.

[DeathRowKitty]

Was the how to the first or the second part of what you quoted? If it was to the first part, it's obvious enough I'm not answering. If it's to the second part, I'm not answering until you answer the first part.


As for your second thing:
1) I have no idea what gbe means.
2) u so mad

[Empking]

Was the how to the first or the second part of what you quoted? If it was to the first part, it's obvious enough I'm not answering. If it's to the second part, I'm not answering until you answer the first part.

The answer to your question is: Correct.

As for your second thing:
1) I have no idea what gbe means.
2) u so mad

Such sparkling wit.

[DeathRowKitty]

There is a 10/13 chance that Shanba is town. Given that he's town, the probability that Magua is town is 9/12. The probability both of them are town is then 15/26.

Thomas Bayes would not be very happy with you.

[Empking]

There is a 10/13 chance that Shanba is town. Given that he's town, the probability that Magua is town is 9/12. The probability both of them are town is then 15/26.

Thomas Bayes would not be very happy with you.

Thank you.

[Thestatusquo]

Current bids:

Night Kill 100%: 12 points
Investigate 100%: 5 points
Protect: 5 points
50% investigate: 4 points.

[Thestatusquo]

Current bids:

Night Kill 100%: 13 points
Investigate 100%: 5 points
Protect: 5 points
50% investigate: 4 points.

Phase ends in (expired on 2011-09-27 09:47:00)

[DeathRowKitty]

Not that i should be telling anyone what to do, buuut....

Is a night 1 kill really worth more than half of your starting points?

[sorgster]

Everyone got the same amount of starting points? So who is bidding against me for the night kill?

[Mego]

You're all fired. This phase should have more WIFOM and less absolutes.

[sorgster]

My night one target talked right now. That's not a good thing

[DeathRowKitty]

Let's not talk about who's bidding on what, please and thank you.

[Thestatusquo]

Current bids:

Night Kill 100%: 14 points
Investigate 100%: 6 points
Protect: 5 points
50% investigate: 4 points.

Phase ends in (expired on 2011-09-27 09:47:00)

[SodaSpirit17]

Guys I don't think mafia would waste their money on a cop scan, so whoever buys cop scans are pretty much confirmed town...

[DeathRowKitty]

I disagree that bidding on the normal investigate makes you town, but yeah, whoever bid on 50% investigate is almost definitely town...unless it's you.

Which, by the way, is all the more reason for people not to say what they're bidding on. Just saying.

[Voidedmafia]

Guys I don't think mafia would waste their money on a cop scan, so whoever buys cop scans are pretty much confirmed town...

Probably right, since we only get 20. Don't be surprised if the snipe them sometimes, though.

[Thestatusquo]

Current bids:

Night Kill 100%: 15 points
Investigate 100%: 6 points
Protect: 5 points
50% investigate: 4 points.

Phase ends in (expired on 2011-09-27 09:47:00)

[uncledaphne]

Someone bid on the doc

[Voidedmafia]

Someone is bidding on that. See Protect.

[uncledaphne]

Ya someone else bid on it

[DeathRowKitty]

Why do you want someone else to bid on the protect?

[uncledaphne]

Scum+Doc=Disaster of the third degree

[Shanba]

HOLY SHIT STOP BIDDING ON THINGS ALREADY

THE BIDDING IS ALREADY TOTALLY RETARDED. 100% DERPFEST. PLEASE STOP.

Why the hell does it matter if scum get doc? Essentially that just means they spent their points on something that really isnt that beneficial to them overall simply to deny it to the town. It costs them something (points) which I'm sure they'd rather be spending on disruptive or just plain strong abilities like bus driver or roleblocker or extra nightkill.

Ok, let me explain the setup a little, since it seems people dont understand and are already making really poor decisions that could ultimately cost us the game. We have, as town, a collective pool of resources that we want to spend to collect as many abilities as possible. What we ultimately want is to utilise as few points as possible to get as many abilities as possible. What that means is outbidding a townie as a townie fundamentally weakens the town, forcing the prices up to no net gain for the town. In any sane mafia game, town outnumber scum, which means that chances are you are outbidding townies with each bid and actively hurting the town. Now, if you had information/reads that made you think that a particular bid was made by scum, then it would be good play to outbid them - but most of these bids are being made a) without you knowing who made them and b) at a point in the game where it is totally unreasonable for you to have any solid reads at all.

There are things we can force - in particular, its extremely powerful for us to

know

that an ability was taken by scum, as we can use this to force favorable situations in endgame. If we veto bidding on certain abilities for townies, we can take them out of the pool of abilities and thus strengthen the town. Abilities that are powerful for scum and weak for town we can save money on (not have to outbid scum for them) by taking them out of the pool entirely. If the scum bid on them, we know it is a scum bid and can either outbid or let them have it knowing that they have spent points on a certain ability. As such, I propose that no one should buy the Bus Driver ability (no one should have bought 100% nightkill on day 1 either, but that ship has sailed).

TLDR: STOP THROWING MONEY DOWN THE DRAIN RANDOMLY OUTBIDDING EACH OTHER.