Mini 1247- Auction Mafia: Abandoned

[DeathRowKitty]

On second thought, I think uncledaphne might be town. -_-

Less interestingly, someone bid on 25% nightkill. Consider this me laughing at whoever did that (before Empking gets a chance to <3)

[Thestatusquo]

Just a reminder that auction phase will end when I get up for work tomorrow morning around 8:30 central time. Have all bids in by then.

[DeathRowKitty]

Thanks for the reminder.

[Empking]

I'd go with Uncle town because of the claim.

[Mego]

I've seen scum pull gambits like that before. Also, I've seen scum that stupid before.

[uncledaphne]

I dont like Megos relentless your so stupid your sure scum stance

[Mego]

I don't like your "I'm going to bid 75% of my points on a 100% Nightkill to kill somebody for a retarded-ass reason" stance.

[Magua]

I've seen scum pull gambits like that before. Also, I've seen scum that stupid before.

I don't like your "I'm going to bid 75% of my points on a 100% Nightkill to kill somebody for a retarded-ass reason" stance.

There is some strong cognitive dissonance between what you're saying in these two statements, and what you were saying earlier about wanting more WIFOM in the auctioning. Is there any particular reason you think daphne is not WIFOMing in his interactions with you currently?

Unrelatedly, I am very much feeling that bv310 is mafia.

Sodaspirit, less scummy than bv310 but still scummy.

Daphne is probably town.

[Thestatusquo]

Current bids:

Night Kill 100%: 15 points
Investigate 100%: 10 points
Protect: 5 points
50% investigate: 4 points
Bullet Proof: 3
Roleblock: 6
Busdrive 4
25% NK: 2

Phase ends in (expired on 2011-09-27 09:47:00)

[Thestatusquo]

Current bids:

Night Kill 100%: 15 points
Investigate 100%: 10 points
Protect: 5 points
50% investigate: 4 points
Bullet Proof: 4
Roleblock: 6
Busdrive 4
25% NK: 2

Phase ends in (expired on 2011-09-27 09:47:00)

[Mego]

I've seen scum pull gambits like that before. Also, I've seen scum that stupid before.

I don't like your "I'm going to bid 75% of my points on a 100% Nightkill to kill somebody for a retarded-ass reason" stance.

There is some strong cognitive dissonance between what you're saying in these two statements, and what you were saying earlier about wanting more WIFOM in the auctioning. Is there any particular reason you think daphne is not WIFOMing in his interactions with you currently?

The dissonance stems from the change in my level of seriousness in the timeframe between those posts. Although it's possible daphne is WIFOMing, it doesn't come off as such. It comes off as either really scummy play or really bad play, neither of which is beneficial for the town.

PEDIT for pickiness: 13 minutes elapsed, but the countdown on the auction deadline did not move. Are we neutrinos, moving faster than the speed of light?

[Mego]

Oh, I see, countdown tags. Carry on.

[Thestatusquo]

Winning bids:

Night Kill 100%: 15 points
Investigate 100%: 10 points
Protect: 5 points
50% investigate: 4 points
Bullet Proof: 4
Roleblock: 6
Busdrive 4
25% NK: 3

IT IS NOW DAY PHASE 1

[Magua]

Ok.

I have roleblock.

Part 2: I want the following (and only the following) to claim:
Busdriver
25% Night-kill
100% Night-kill

If these aren't claimed (especially the 100% Night-kill) we know scum are down that many points, which will make things much easier down the line. If the busdriver is town, then we can name Night-kill targets as well and use them as extra lynches.

Protections and investigations should not claim.

VOTE: bv310

[Empking]

Vote: Lurco

[Lurconis]

No one should claim today as it just gives mafia info on who has how much points left so they can kill those with the most points.

[Empking]

No one should claim today as it just gives mafia info on who has how much points left so they can kill those with the most points.

Confirm Vote: Lurco

[sorgster]

Who took my bulletproof? I think bulletproof shouldn't be claimed but the rest should.

Vote Magua

for being the first to vote.

[Voidedmafia]

Vote: Uncledaphne

for his actions during the auction phase.

Empking: That's a scummy statement, why?

[Empking]

Vote: Uncledaphne

for his actions during the auction phase.

Empking: That's a scummy statement, why?

Its so...dull.

[Voidedmafia]

Vote: Uncledaphne

for his actions during the auction phase.

Empking: That's a scummy statement, why?

Its so...dull.

Not really.

I do agree that the 100% NK should claim (and that we should choose the most town person of the day to bid on it, so that it'll stay of scum's hands), but I do agree with Lurco's thinking that the rest really shouldn't claim unless it's really prudent for them to do so.

[PeregrineV]

Vote: Magua

1. Bid on roleblock, and said he would explain why after the auction, no explanation yet.
2. Admitted to winning, thus outing himself as a power role.
3. Found bv310 scummy from a single post, but no clear explanation of why.

[Magua]

No one should claim today as it just gives mafia info on who has how much points left so they can kill those with the most points.

Busdriver claiming is 1000000000000000000000000% protown because if both roleblock and busdrive are controlled by the town, we know that our Night actions aren't going to get fucked with and it means that we can plan with much higher cohesion.

The NKs should claim for accountability because it doesn't matter if they get shot tonight (shot still goes off). This can go two ways; mostly applies to the 100% NK, but I'd like the 25% NK to claim too:
- If the scum has the 100% NK and they don't claim, they'll get fucked over when we force bids D2 or D3 and get caught.
- If the person with 100% NK claims, there's responsibility for their shot (triply so if we have a busdrive claim), *and* in the case of the 100% NK person, this person is cleared from fucking around with future auctions because we already know they're out of points, so if, eg, tomorrow there's a 100% NK that went for 10 points and is unclaimed (and so scum) we know it's not them.

Lurco's play is bad, but bad play does not equal scum play at this point, especially for a player like Lurconis.

Who took my bulletproof? I think bulletproof shouldn't be claimed but the rest should.

Vote Magua
for being the first to vote.

You may note that we're not in an RVS. We've had discussions about the game and the strategy, so there's already plenty to base your vote off of.

For instance, do you think that the protection should claim? Because your above quote indicates you do, so I'm curious.

I do agree that the 100% NK should claim (and that we should choose the most town person of the day to bid on it, so that it'll stay of scum's hands), but I do agree with Lurco's thinking that the rest really shouldn't claim unless it's really prudent for them to do so.

Do you think busdrive should claim?

EBWOP: Peregrine, your reasons 1 and 2 for voting me are incredibly contradictory.

[Empking]

Vote: Uncledaphne

for his actions during the auction phase.

Empking: That's a scummy statement, why?

Its so...dull.

Not really.

I do agree that the 100% NK should claim (and that we should choose the most town person of the day to bid on it, so that it'll stay of scum's hands), but I do agree with Lurco's thinking that the rest really shouldn't claim unless it's really prudent for them to do so.

The last paragraph isn't related to the first.

[Lurconis]

Player a is town they claim 100% nk right now scum a thinks well I was going to kill them but insteaf wil kill player b as they will have more points to use against us in the future.

You wouldn't expect any of these rolls to claim d1 normally I don't see how these mechanics change that. It still is just giving scum info day 1 they dont need