Video Game UPick Mafia (Game Over)

[WrathChild]

And why may that be?

[Meransiel]

Seriously, this is haneous. If you truely are town, how about actually trying to defend yourself with out relying on your claim to save you? So instead of actually doing work you'd prefer just claim and ruin any usefulness you may have had?

What do you mean "defend myself"? Case against me is basically "dumb player"+"hopped around with his votes"+"avoided major wagons". And that's not even a strawman.

The fact that the majority of players forget that lynching is for getting scum, and not punishing bad play, is not something I can control.

[Meransiel]

Vote: Wraith

Purrfecto.

I don't understand this. That post by Wrath would make sense from a scum!Wrath perspective only if he was bussing, meaning that I am ALSO scum. And it would be more in your interest to let your vote on me, not Wrath, THEN vote Wrath day 2 if I flip scum. Nah, I really, really miss on your "purrfecto".

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote: Wraith

Purrfecto.

I don't understand this. That post by Wrath would make sense from a scum!Wrath perspective only if he was bussing, meaning that I am ALSO scum. And it would be more in your interest to let your vote on me, not Wrath, THEN vote Wrath day 2 if I flip scum. Nah, I really, really miss on your "purrfecto".

You're really bad at this, aren't you?

[WrathChild]

My point is, if you're town, start doing something productive instead of just relying on a claim to save your ass.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

if you're town, start doing something productive

Put down that stone, sweetie. You're in a glass house.

[WrathChild]

LLD, what's up here? I stated it before that my read on Meran is likely town. So why is my reaction to his Claim-Dependancy such a shocker to you?

Preview Edit: Have I not at least attempted to be productive?

[Meransiel]

@LLD: How exactly can I make cases if you people just *meh* them over without any explanation or proof of my wrongness?!

I mean, you can't just vote me for no stated reason, THEN unvote without ANYTHING that would indicate me being, from your PoV, any different in terms of scumminess than before, then vote someone for a reason that would clearly also support me being scum, DESPITE the fact that my wagon is larger. It's slowing the game down. What is pro-town about that?

FoS: LLD

@WC: I have done things. Taken stances, given my opinion on players. You'll notice from my ISO I express my reads pretty clearly. But the ONE thing I cannot do is, of course, make people leave my wagon. Because if *uselesness* is the reason why I'm being voted, there's a handful other players just as elligible.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You're bad at this, aren't you?

Ever heard of a reaction test?

[Meransiel]

You're bad at this, aren't you?

Ever heard of a reaction test?

I made a reaction test in this very game. I was voted for it.

So, simple question, why shouldn't you receive the same treatment?

[Kdub]

Day 1, Vote Count #22

MagnaofIllusion (0)

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Dekes (1)

- Scott Brosius

WrathChild (3)

- ToastyToast, MagnaofIllusion, Lady Lambdadelta

GreyICE (0)

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Ant_to_the_max (0)

-

Lady Lambdadelta (0)

-

RayFrost (2)

- Meransiel, Hiraki

Hiraki (1)

- WrathChild

ToastyToast (0)

-

Maxous (0)

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AGar (0)

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dramonic (0)

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Seraphim (0)

-

Meransiel (7)

- Ant_to_the_max, SpyreX, Seraphim, GreyICE, dramonic, kdowns, Maxous

SpyreX (0)

-

Scott Brosius (2)

- AGar, RayFrost

kdowns (0)

-

No Lynch (0)

-

Not Voting (1)

- Dekes

17 votes available, 9 votes needed to lynch

Deadline is October 5, ~ 7 pm PDT

[WrathChild]

You're bad at this, aren't you?

Ever heard of a reaction test?

Like when I voted Hiraki? And he flipped out?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You're bad at this, aren't you?

Ever heard of a reaction test?

I made a reaction test in this very game. I was voted for it.

So, simple question, why shouldn't you receive the same treatment?

Because clearly you were doin' it wrong.

Well, that and I, unlike you, am able to actually glean something from the reaction testing.

You're just flailing around like a fool.

P-Edit: Link please, Wraith.

[Meransiel]

Well, that and I, unlike you, am able to actually glean something from the reaction testing.

Do share.

[Meransiel]

Because scum!WC would have much more to gain if he'd just call my post AtE and voted for me because of it, so the day ends faster. There are simply more reasons for town to act as Wrath does than scum.

So I don't exactly understand what the relevance of your reaction test was.

[WrathChild]

After all of my ISO's Hiraki was easily the scummiest.

VOTE: Hiarki

PS
HOLY CRAP!!! After all that TWO POSTS!!!! THAT'S IT!!!! THIS IS THE DEADEST GAME I'VE PLAYED ON THIS SITE AND IT SHOULDN'T BE. WTF!?

PSS
I think this is no fault of the Mod because I think Kdub is doing a great job. We have scum in our lurkers.

Usually pointless little flavor quotes = breadcrumbs.

I'm aware.

But even so, why would I breadcrumb a bad role.

Even if bad guys and good guys were mixed up, if two scum bad guys die, I don't look too good in the end. However, I will end your case silently.

You're totally misrepresenting me and here's the kicker.

You know it.

Let's look children.

I don't know his Meta, but removed from all meta arguments Hiraki is definately scum IMO.

Now let's read that a couple more times.

You realize that I

may

in fact have a tendency to this, but decide

not

to look it up.

You're acting a bit ridiculous here. Especially with the random notion to bring it up. If you didn't bring it up, I'd just lol and say this is how I always act.

However, I wasn't the first one to bring up here. You realize that I may be town by ways of meta, but have decided to not care about that.

That's horrendous.

But wait children, I supply for all.

Dekes: Has done nearly nothing, at least his ISO #2 gives some reads. I can't really do anything but put him at Null for now.

Difference between me and him?

He gives some reads, and has done nearly nothing.

However, I, with 29 posts have done nothing except for defending kdowns who I think is town.

hmmmm.

let that sit there in your mind for a moment.

But wait, it always gets better.

Scott: Not much has changed since I ISOed him earlier. I was not impressed with his response to my accusations and now he has V/LAed. Null to Scum.

Again, we're falling back to the same situation.

how the fuck am i scummier than someone who has flaked? You basically called AGar town for his views, wouldn't they, idunno correlate in someway shape or form? Sure, null to scum shows some interest in a lynch, but you're voting me. Someone who's active and actively arguing. If I was shitting around all the time I would be fine with it.

but psssssst.

i'm not

And explain this "FF-7" slip theory one more time.

Actually strike that, it's prob. stupid. So you can choose to do it or not.(i prefer the later if you didn't realize)

At Me Lady's request.

[WrathChild]

Note: My vote put Hiraki at L-8

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Because scum!WC would have much more to gain if he'd just call my post AtE and voted for me because of it, so the day ends faster. There are simply more reasons for town to act as Wrath does than scum.

So I don't exactly understand what the relevance of your reaction test was.

I'll give you a counter point.

Scum!Wrath wants to distance himself from your town flip, while still applying pressure!

Can you disprove that this is a possible truth?

Mod edit: Please don't post in blue text.

[WrathChild]

So you think Meran is going to flip town?

[Meransiel]

Can you disprove that this is a possible truth?

I can't disprove this speculative, but find it rather unlikely. About half the people on my wagon voted without even giving a reason, so even if, theoretically, I'd be brought up to a hammering total and flipped town today, all that'd be needed would be a "eh, we're better off without him anyway" so absolutely no suspicion would come upon those on my wagon.

In short, he doesn't need to distance.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Can you disprove that this is a possible truth?

I can't disprove this speculative, but find it rather unlikely. About half the people on my wagon voted without even giving a reason, so even if, theoretically, I'd be brought up to a hammering total and flipped town today, all that'd be needed would be a "eh, we're better off without him anyway" so absolutely no suspicion would come upon those on my wagon.

In short, he doesn't need to distance.

Um, this is actually VERY false.

The best wagons to analyze are VI wagons. Scum LOVE to jump on bad players and call it "oh we're better off this way".

[SpyreX]

LOLLLLLL REACTIONS

LLD, go look at Merans ISO before the madness. This is not a VI-wagon. This is for real death

[Hiraki]

No, it's a VI wagon.

I love how WrathChild gives up right after I destroy him.

That is subordination at its finest.

[SpyreX]

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p3445780

No. Its not a VI wagon. At least not by me.

Which is fine because this is for scum and for death.

[Hiraki]

That's called lack of reading and thinking that you're on top.

It's not total VI status, but it is borderline.

It's not scummy though. Just bad.