camn's temperamental - Mini 1232 - GAME OVER

[Lurconis]

Last night I watched the player parama visited. As name seems to be pointless this game I propose that I say who parama visited parama confirms and says their flavor name and that person confirms that way if there is scum in those links it gets flushed out and if not scum only gain a flavor name which thus far seem useless.

-phone

[Parama]

Lurc, who did I visit, then? If you know, you can tell me, right?
If you get it right then I'll tell you what their flavor name is.

[camn]

Haylen

- 1

( Chair )

Zang

- 1

( Parama )

NOT VOTING:

( Haylen Zang fishythefish PeregrineV Lurconis RedPanda Johhog )

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline is

WEDNESDAY, October 12th

, 8pm MY TIME.. . Or whenever I get around to it.

[Lurconis]

Yes that was the plan. You visited Johog.

[Parama]

And he is the Provider.

wooooohooooo

[Johhog]

I confirm that. I haven't really played after my role name though.

[PeregrineV]

Right now,

Vote: Haylen

Extreme shirking of duties.

Going back to look at Twisted interactions, and re-read day1 and day2.

[Zang]

Parama is now confirmed town, Lurconis is almost confirmed. At least one of Chair/Zang is scum. Discuss.

Panda is town too btw.

Why?


I agree that Haylen is scummy but I'm going to wait and see if Haylen actually does something today before I vote for her.

[Lurconis]

Haylen is scummy, why is red panda town?
@parama why is zang scum?

[Haylen]

Tell me you're opinion. What is scummier? Lurking or active lurking?

[Zang]

Lurking is not scummy. Active lurking is very scummy especially if you go until day three without providing any real content.

[Fishythefish]

Who the hell killed kanye? Oh, Haylen did. That could be the tiny bit of justification I need to unleash my lurker lynching urges.

Johhog's townreads are spot on. RP, Para and Lurc form my townlist. Lurc for his claim, RP for his day 1 awesome association tunnelling, Para for his part in the lynch and his claim. Time to read everyone else:

Haylen

Haylen's done very little. Called spoon's hammer scummy, and voted him. Unvoted when he claimed. Pretty neutral, though a good candidate for killing kanye.

Johhog

[quote="BBmolla"

His vote for Parama gives an actual reason (buddying), which he then immediately undermines by saying he's voting because Parama asked for a vote.

it's not undermining, it's an addition (hence why I said in retrospect)

conflict doesn't matter anyways; It's RVS. Who develops conflict over an RVS vote?

I agree with this, and Fishy's poor attempt at finding scum fails.

This doesn't smack of scum with spoon. Unnecessary defence just feels like a link scum wouldn't want to make. Minor towntell.

I didn't like his play on BB. This is less important given that BB was town.

I can't see Parama as scum.

Twistedspoon don't play like he usually does. I don't think that I have any scum meta on him though.

Suspects twisted here, in a half-hearted kind of way. Doing this and then not bussing later in the day would seem odd as scum.

Oh well. My gut tells me that Parama is town, but this will be one of the rare times when I use my brain instead of gut. We really need a flip too, a town/scumflip on Twisted or Parama would divide the Town into two camps.

UNVOTE: Lurconis
VOTE: Parama

Would he say this as scum, knowing he'll be in the wrong camp? I doubt it.

I think Johhog is town.

Peregrine

Didn't do much that stands out day 1. Opposed spoon's wagon on day 2, asking for cases. Which was very reasonable, because there hadn't been any when he asked. He eventually Fossed spoon, and declared intent to vote - mainly based on spoon's role. This fits fine with scum or town for me. As scum, at that point he could easily have decided that spoon was dead.

Chair

Chair on twisted looks like town. He repeatedly says he doesn't know why he thinks twisted is scum, but he does. That really doesn't feel like bussing to me. He never slacks off the spoon wagon, and looks pretty good.

Zang

On Day 1:

one more day.

BBmolla

- 4

( Parama Johhog kanyeknowsbest Lurconis )

Chair

- 3

( Haylen PeregrineV fishythefish )

kanyeknowsbest

- 1

( Zang )

Zang

- 1

( twistedspoon )

twistedspoon

- 3

( Chair Sathoris BBmolla )

Sathoris

- 1

( RedPanda )

NOT VOTING:

( )

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is

WED, SEPTEMBER 14th

, 8am MY TIME.. . Or whenever I get around to it.

After this, myself, Zang and spoon voted BB, in that order. Which would definitely have made sense for scumZang (or me, but I'm town). Zang's reasoning:

Unvote
Vote: BBmolla

Although I think he is town, his lynch will give us the most information and might possibly confirm Parama's alignment.

Feels like a bit of a stretch to say BB's lynch would confirm Para's alignment. Possibly scum trying to make his vote look better.

On Day 2 he goes after Para immediately, but doesn't explain why and unvotes saying Para is no more likely scum than anyone else. Why the vote, Zang? Interestingly, between the vote and unvote twisted moved onto Para and lots of people moved onto twisted - making the votecount look like this:

twistedspoon

- 4

( Parama kanyeknowsbest Lurconis Chair )

Parama

- 2

( Zang twistedspoon )

NOT VOTING:

( Johhog twistedspoon Haylen PeregrineV fishythefish RedPanda )

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
Deadline is

THURS, SEPTEMBER 29th

, 8pm MY TIME.. . Or whenever I get around to it.

I can easily see scumZang being worried about this link to twisted. He then moves onto Haylen, but saying that "Chair's case on twisted looks pretty good". Votes twisted to L-1, and stays on there through subsequent claiming and vote movement. Can see it as scum who decided to vote spoon when the latter was in trouble, then went all out rather than back out.

He's still hanging onto his town points from post 31, where he displayed (or, just possibly, faked) a misunderstanding of the scum role PM.

spoon

I can't find anything that interesting in spoon's play.

So, I'm putting the two scum in Haylen, Peregrine and Zang. Largely by PoE - these are the people whose interactions with spoon I find most likely to come from scum. I think I'll
VOTE: Haylen

[Lurconis]

@Haylen Active lurking is scummier.

Think I noticed something from day 1 while at work going to get dinner but I want to reread some day 1 actions i will post more later

[Lurconis]

If I were to guess where the scum are hiding I'd say it's in you, Lurconis, Zang, Haylen, Johhog and Panda.

^There is a reason for any of the above to want Sathoris dead as well.

As of right now I think scum is Haylen/Panda. Haylens question about lurking vs active lurking seems to ask is me or my scum partner doing a better job hiding right now?

[Fishythefish]

Meh... I think spoon's flip explains the N1 kill to my satisfaction.

[Lurconis]

True enough

[camn]

grr. lurkers.

Haylen

- 3

( Chair PeregrineV fishythefish )

Zang

- 1

( Parama )

NOT VOTING:

( Haylen Lurconis RedPanda Johhog Zang )

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline is

WEDNESDAY, October 12th

, 8pm MY TIME.. . Or whenever I get around to it.

[Lurconis]

I thought I was voting Haylen at this point. I don't really want to put him at l-1 this early though.

you thought wrong.

[Parama]

I have a vague recollection of reasons why Zang is scum but I really just put a vote down for the sake of putting a vote down tbh. I really need to read v_v

[RedPanda]

looks like i was wrong.
need a lot of rereading to correct this now.

@parama i was so convinced you were scum because of your role name = the architect. ive to check on those temperaments again.

[Zang]

After this, myself, Zang and spoon voted BB, in that order. Which would definitely have made sense for scumZang (or me, but I'm town). Zang's reasoning

So I'm scum for doing the same thing that you did as town?

Feels like a bit of a stretch to say BB's lynch would confirm Para's alignment. Possibly scum trying to make his vote look better

I didn't say that it would confirm his alignment. I said that it might possibly confirm his alignment.

Also, I don't see why I would want to make my vote look better.

On Day 2 he goes after Para immediately, but doesn't explain why and unvotes saying Para is no more likely scum than anyone else. Why the vote, Zang? Interestingly, between the vote and unvote twisted moved onto Para and lots of people moved onto twisted - making the votecount look like this:

My vote was before he claimed his action and my unvote was after.

I can easily see scumZang being worried about this link to twisted. He then moves onto Haylen, but saying that "Chair's case on twisted looks pretty good". Votes twisted to L-1, and stays on there through subsequent claiming and vote movement. Can see it as scum who decided to vote spoon when the latter was in trouble, then went all out rather than back out.

So in the beginning I was to worried to vote twisted, But then I vote him and keep my vote on him while everybody else is voting and unvoting even though I could have easily unvoted saying that I just believed his claim?

[Fishythefish]

1. Yes, you are more likely scum for doing the same thing I did as town. It was a time when scum would have wanted to vote BB. If I wasn't me, I'd give myself scumpoints for the same reason.
2. Actually wait, if BB had flipped scum Para

would

have been confirmed. I totally withdraw that (to answer your other part, I think scum often get worried about casting their late day votes, and are more likely than town to invent bad reasons to back up votes which are really just "someone has to die").
3. Why did Para claiming the action change your mind? It seems a rather unnecessary vote if it was just a way of saying "claim your action". Particularly as you didn't even tell him that was what it was about.
4. You misunderstand. I think that you were worried about voting

with

twisted on a bandwagon noone else was on, when there was a big wagon on twisted.
There's nothing there you couldn't have done as town, and I'm not saying I'm sure you're scum. But a lot of people are looking pretty good to me in this game, so you go on the scumlist by PoE.

Who do you think is scum atm?

[PeregrineV]

@Haylen- both are scummy. Instead of lurking just post instead.

@Fishy- Only one I give 90% town is Lurconis, since scum watcher doesn't make sense to me.

@Red- I looked (ok, glanced, since it was a lot to read for each one) through the role names and don't see how you can equate names with alignment or even game roles, but please share anything you find.

@Parama- We're in the third day, reasons would be good at this point.

[RedPanda]

it wasnt the temperaments , its just when i hear the word architect, i equate it to the architect of the matrix.

[PeregrineV]

it wasnt the temperaments , its just when i hear the word architect, i equate it to the architect of the matrix.

like from the movie "The Matrix"?