Mini 1247- Auction Mafia: Abandoned

[uncledaphne]

Like a true ragequit professional

[Thestatusquo]

Please be advised, my laptop broke today, I have ordered a new one but it will not be here for 2 to 3 days. You will be without votecounts from me during this time. I alologize for any inconvenience this might cause anyone.

[Voidedmafia]

Can you get Daphne out of here, first? Please?

Shanba: A large amount of his actions in the Auction phase went into that vote, and nothing he's done since has made me want to change it.

Just...Someone get him out of here...

[Empking]

Yeah seeing bv scum. Not seeing Uncle scum.

[Mego]

Auction Mafia

4) Due to the nature of lynches in this game, there will be no vote counts.

MOD VOTE COUNT:
Uncledaphne 6 (hiplop, Sodaspirit, mego, voidedmafia, sorgster, lunconis)
Mego 3 (uncledaphne, BV310, peregrine)
BV310 2 (Magua empking)
Sodaspirit 2 (uncledaphne, deathrowkitty)

The mod is lying scum.

[Shanba]

Speaking of which: Magua, why did you buy the roleblocker?

The reason I went for roleblock over bus driver is that a bus driven investigation is still potentially useful, a roleblocked investigation is worthless. Bus driven kills are still problematic, but N1 could just as easily backfire on scum as anything else.

The fact that no bus driver has claimed pretty much confirms that scum have it.

I'm more concerned with why you would buy either of them at all.

Shanba: A large amount of his actions in the Auction phase went into that vote, and nothing he's done since has made me want to change it.

This is not actually an answer to my question. Please specify the actions.

[Thestatusquo]

Players are entitled to play the game however they feel is the best way. There will be no play style replacements.

[Lurconis]

@mego that vote count was correct soda unvoted after

[Magua]

I'm more concerned with why you would buy either of them at all.

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So the scum don't have them. Seemed obvious to me.

[PeregrineV]

I'm more concerned with why you would buy either of them at all.

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So the scum don't have them. Seemed obvious to me.

[Empking]

I'm more concerned with why you would buy either of them at all.

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So the scum don't have them. Seemed obvious to me.

[Magua]

Elaborate.

[Shanba]

I'm more concerned with why you would buy either of them at all.

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So the scum don't have them. Seemed obvious to me.

It would be better for town overall if no one had them imo.

[Empking]

I'm more concerned with why you would buy either of them at all.

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So the scum don't have them. Seemed obvious to me.

It would be better for town overall if no one had them imo.

The Busdriver situation shows that that's not possible.

[PeregrineV]

Elaborate.

Well, in effect that is a non-answer. Or, I should say, it's the generic answer you would give regardless of alignment.
If you have a town plan for it's use, you don't want to give it away.
If your scum, you wouldn't admit it anyway.

So, neutral face because while I would like more info, you really can't, won't or shouldn't give any more.

Also, if Uncle weren't being such a derp, that would be his same excuse for buying both NK and doc.

[PeregrineV]

Protect: -claimed by Uncle
Role Block -claimed by Magua
Nightkill: (100%) claimed by Uncle

What we really need is Uncle to play a normal game and discuss his possible use of the abilities. Otherwise, it makes more sense to lynch him so the "hard" NK is controlled, even at the loss of the doc.

But we need his input now, because if we can get him to sell the NK or not use it or use as directed, then we don't want to lynch him.

I'm not sure if the "soft" NK should claim. If it's in town hands we could ask they refrain from using it tonight. If in scum hands, it doesn't matter what we want.

@Uncle- Your real thoughts in a participatory manner, please.

[Shanba]

I'm more concerned with why you would buy either of them at all.

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So the scum don't have them. Seemed obvious to me.

It would be better for town overall if no one had them imo.

The Busdriver situation shows that that's not possible.

Scum taking it (edit: or at least, scum bidding on it) is overall not a bad situation for us, as we then know that scum have spent points on it. Also, the following situation is massively in our favour:

"OK, no one bid on bus driver/roleblocker"
someone bids on it
"Ok, we know that bid is from scum, a townie can now legitimately outbid that shit without worrying that theyre screwing another townie over."

In the situation where people are just taking it blindly, there's a risk that some townie bids on it to take it away from scum, then another townie sees the bid, assumes that scum are taking it and outbids the "scum" and we lose points overall.

I did say don't bid on that shit. I wasn't joking :/

[Magua]

It would be better for town overall if no one had them imo.

And yet there's no mechanics to stop scum from buying it (which is what the non-busdriver claim is showing happened). Also note that I was outbid for the roleblocker initially. So me not buying it would be the scum having both the roleblocker and the busdriver for only 8 points.

PEdit: Your next post: your plan-of-attack ignores the fact that scum sniped the bus driver. Following your plan-of-attack ensures that scum get the abilities for the absolute minimal cost.

Well, in effect that is a non-answer. Or, I should say, it's the generic answer you would give regardless of alignment.
If you have a town plan for it's use, you don't want to give it away.
If your scum, you wouldn't admit it anyway.

You are entirely correct. But, I give obvious answers to obvious questions. It's a curse.

What we really need is Uncle to play a normal game and discuss his possible use of the abilities. Otherwise, it makes more sense to lynch him so the "hard" NK is controlled, even at the loss of the doc.

But we need his input now, because if we can get him to sell the NK or not use it or use as directed, then we don't want to lynch him.

My big problem with uncle, and why I want him replaced, is that the attempted self hammer makes no sense regardless of alignment -- it's just outright trolling and/or bad play.

There are many things we could try to do with daphne's NK, but I have no faith that he'll actually agree to do any of them.

I'm not sure if the "soft" NK should claim. If it's in town hands we could ask they refrain from using it tonight. If in scum hands, it doesn't matter what we want.

Total disagreement. If someone has the 25% NK they should claim, and if they claim it, they should use it.

[PeregrineV]

Current bids:

Night Kill 100%: 15 points
Investigate 100%: 6 points
Protect: 5 points
50% investigate: 4 points.

Phase ends in (expired on 2011-09-27 09:47:00)

I did say don't bid on that shit. I wasn't joking :/

You did, and you're probably right, but you first brought it up after half the stuff was already bidded on.

Do we want to try that for tomorrow?

[PeregrineV]

@Magua- Will the mod replace a player at the request of other players? Otherwise, you may be right about Uncle, but I also think he feeds off of the attacks on him to dumb it up, so to speak.

I don't have to tell you the problems with the claiming the 25% NK, do I?

[Shanba]

And yet there's no mechanics to stop scum from buying it (which is what the non-busdriver claim is showing happened). Also note that I was outbid for the roleblocker initially. So me not buying it would be the scum having both the roleblocker and the busdriver for only 8 points.

PEdit: Your next post: your plan-of-attack ignores the fact that scum sniped the bus driver. Following your plan-of-attack ensures that scum get the abilities for the absolute minimal cost.

Scum bids on it, we identify it as a scum bid. We take it back. EZPZ.

[Empking]

They just need to bid on it after 71 hours and 59 minutes.

[Magua]

@Magua- Will the mod replace a player at the request of other players? Otherwise, you may be right about Uncle, but I also think he feeds off of the attacks on him to dumb it up, so to speak.

TSQ has already indicated he won't replace daphne. I'm pondering about it, but in general I still don't feel he should be lynched at this point. I don't think he's lying about having the NK or the protect, so we can probably wait and see how the Night shakes out -- eg, if scum dies then he lives, if scummy-looking-town dies he lives, etc.

I don't have to tell you the problems with the claiming the 25% NK, do I?

You do have to tell me, as I'm not seeing any problem with it.

[uncledaphne]

I will kill who everyone wants to kill. I am not a troll

[Magua]

I will kill who everyone wants to kill. I am not a troll

Bus driver makes it an incredibly bad plan for it to be specified who you should kill.