camn's temperamental - Mini 1232 - GAME OVER

[RedPanda]

yes

[Lurconis]

So your basing reads off of matrix flavor in a game that isn't matrix flavored?

[PeregrineV]

Well, I remember the movies sort of, but who was "The Architect"? And what Lurc said above- not seeing the connection.

[RedPanda]

not exactly. looking at all those temperaments i was trying to figure out which temperament would probably be good and which would be bad. and the architect was the creator of the matrix.

[Johhog]

@Fishy- Only one I give 90% town is Lurconis, since scum watcher doesn't make sense to me.

Fail.

VOTE: PeregrineV

There's no possible way a player as experienced as PeregrineV don't know that scum watchers exists.

[PeregrineV]

@Fishy- Only one I give 90% town is Lurconis, since scum watcher doesn't make sense to me.

Fail.

VOTE: PeregrineV

There's no possible way a player as experienced as PeregrineV don't know that scum watchers exists.

lol...yeah, that's why 90%. But, feel free to link me to a game with a scum watcher. (preferably a mini)

[Lurconis]

not exactly. looking at all those temperaments i was trying to figure out which temperament would probably be good and which would be bad. and the architect was the creator of the matrix.

But what does that have to do with this game? Little richard is called the architect of rock and roll but I'm not basing a reading on that

[camn]

four trees, four corners. whats it all for?

PeregrineV

- 1

( Johhog )

Haylen

- 3

( Chair PeregrineV fishythefish )

Zang

- 1

( Parama )

NOT VOTING:

( Haylen Lurconis RedPanda Zang )

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline is

WEDNESDAY, October 12th

, 8pm MY TIME.. . Or whenever I get around to it.

[Parama]

I planned on reading through Zang's ISO to refresh my memory as to why he was scum.
Then I read post 50 which reeks of town and thus stopped there.

unvote

I totally lost my handle on this game. Twisted was just too obvious and it made me lazy v_v

[Zang]

1. Yes, you are more likely scum for doing the same thing I did as town. It was a time when scum would have wanted to vote BB. If I wasn't me, I'd give myself scumpoints for the same reason.
2. Actually wait, if BB had flipped scum Para

would

have been confirmed. I totally withdraw that (to answer your other part, I think scum often get worried about casting their late day votes, and are more likely than town to invent bad reasons to back up votes which are really just "someone has to die").
3. Why did Para claiming the action change your mind? It seems a rather unnecessary vote if it was just a way of saying "claim your action". Particularly as you didn't even tell him that was what it was about.
4. You misunderstand. I think that you were worried about voting

with

twisted on a bandwagon noone else was on, when there was a big wagon on twisted.
There's nothing there you couldn't have done as town, and I'm not saying I'm sure you're scum. But a lot of people are looking pretty good to me in this game, so you go on the scumlist by PoE.

Who do you think is scum atm?

1.That is very hypocritical
2.I see that as a valid reason though if it is that close to deadline.
3.Parama's action claim confirmed that he was a flavor cop.

Haylen is scummiest and I'm was waiting to vote for her to see if she would actually going to do anything today and she apparently isn't.

Vote: Haylen

lol...yeah, that's why 90%. But, feel free to link me to a game with a scum watcher. (preferably a mini)

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=15834
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13971

[camn]

PeregrineV

- 1

( Johhog )

Haylen

- 4

( Chair PeregrineV fishythefish Zang )

NOT VOTING:

( Haylen Lurconis RedPanda Parama )

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline is

WEDNESDAY, October 12th

, 8pm MY TIME.. . Or whenever I get around to it.

[Parama]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

should I just hammer?

[Lurconis]

No but @Haylen Parama is obviously willing to hammer as am I so I hope to see you actually posting either a defense or at the very least reads

[Parama]

At least one of Chair/Zang is scum.

Reason?

why didn't you just vote zang?
(hint: don't do this now)

Tell me you're opinion. What is scummier? Lurking or active lurking?

Active lurking, like this post, is generally not regarded as a townie thing to do, at the very least ^^
I am in love with fishy's 636. It's like... this game is won
gonna say that out of the three you listed, Haylen and Peregrine are more likely IMO.

it wasnt the temperaments , its just when i hear the word architect, i equate it to the architect of the matrix.

holy christ. are you serious

is he serious

guys

I don't believe this you have got to be kidding me

this looks like a lame excuse
because there is no way in hell he can back up his suspicions
now y'know what I'm thinking? he put all his stock into chainsawing me and now that it's failed there's nothing left for him to do. he is screwed, and is telling a bad lie to try and cover up, but it is a bad lie.
iChanged
myMind

unvote vote RedPanda

traitor.

actually
y'now what
haylen's probably scum too
I am okay with hammering her so that we can get to the last scum tomorrow instead of wasting time splititng between two scum wagons

unvote

Johhog town
Parama town
Haylen scum
Chair null
PeregrineV null
RedPanda scum
fishythefish town
Zang town
Lurconis town

there's like
not even any ambiguity left
if we lynch everyone who hasn't shown their towniness this is a won game, it's 5 town-reads to (probably) 2 scum and 2 null to scummy townies. We have a majority in the obvtown category this is beautiful

NO BRAKES

haylen claim in your next post
if you don't I will hammer

honestly I'm probably going to hammer anyways but

[RedPanda]

Im claiming now. You are the HEALER; observant, cooperative, informative, and expressive.

[Parama]

I did not ask you to claim. Why did you claim.

[RedPanda]

i was trying to explain why i thought u were scum. anyway that was badplay from my part.

TwistedSpoon wrote

Fishy will be able to prove my role/innocence

I gave him the invention last night. If it's a nice pro-town invention then all should be well. Scum shouldn't have a role that harms their own wincon

If it's anti-town power, like miller, then the mod's having a good time playing mid games and I guess it wouldn't be completely unreasonable to assume I was a mafioso inventor giving out anti-town roles (I'm not though)

Fishy wrote

So many power roles.

I haven't received an invention. Does your role PM imply I would know about it by now? I can imagine a mechanic where an inventee would only hear about the invention the following night.

Of course, it's possible that you invented me something I don't get to know about.

TwistedSpoon wrote

it doesn't say, it just says that it will give the player a power (invention)

I had expected you to know about it though.

Kanye wrote

why did you choose fishy to invent?

Kanye Wrote

there is, of course, the final possibility that both fishy and twistedspoon are scum and fishy is bussing hard. doubtful.

twistedspoon, your INVENTOR and Mafia RoleBlocker, has been lynched.
kanyeknowsbest, your TEACHER and Townsperson, has been brutally killed.

twistedspoon was a roleblocker. he couldnt invent anything , yet he claims and points at fishy to confirm his ability.why?

Vote Fishy

.

[RedPanda]

I did not ask you to claim. Why did you claim.

Because i made a badplay and i have a better scumsuspect and i need people looking over that without thinking im scum.

[Johhog]

Oh ffs, that makes Fishy town if anything.

Why do we lynch Haylen? I have a feeling she's useless but not necessarily scum.

[Fishythefish]

@RP: you ask a question, how about you answer it? How would spoon-scum choose somebody to point at? You don't give any reason he'd point at a buddy.

@Zang:
1. Nothing wrong with hypocrisy. Sometimes, despite being town, I perform actions that benefit the scum. If I see someone else performing those same actions, that's scummy.
2. Yes, I've withdrawn this point as wrong.
3. Meh. Parama was always going to be a flavour cop, so I doubt that changed your read on him much. You could have just been voting him until he claimed, but then I'd be surprised you didn't say that when you voted him.

@Johhog: Lots of people have rather long townlists. Haylen isn't on any of them. Her alignment isn't going to become any clearer. May as well lynch her.

[Haylen]

Jesus christ, I was asleep. Apparently, unlike some of you, I don't sprew out defences in my sleep.

Claim Protector - Role: Psychiatrist.

Target was Twistedspoon on Night One. - I though I hit on target here because Twisted got all pissy about the SK jibe I made earlier plus there haven't been any kills.
Targetted Parama

Ponderizations from before:
I disagree, active lurking is anti-town, lurking is anit-game. I've been prodded two or three times this game, when I have posted it's been an attempt at providing content. I don't see how the post that Fishy quoted provides any sort of evidence for a motive of killing Kanye. Personally, I think a name cop would benefit scum a lot more than it would town. Here's a game with a Mafia Tracker, that's kind of similar to a watcher in the fact you wouldn't expect mafia to have that role.

[Fishythefish]

Because kanye suspected you, and promised to come after you again. Peregrine was his other suspect.

Fascinating claim. Unlikely we've got a SK - we've seen 1 kill a night, and few powers that can stop kills. Psychiatrist but no SK subverts expectations, but so does two of the same role for town. If it's a scum claim, it's a very clever one.

UNVOTE:

while I think.

On lurc's claim: it's the manner of the claim that makes him town.
On Para's: again, it's the manner of the claim, plus his play on spoon. I can't see scum making either of these claims in the positions they were in.

[Chair]

psychiatrist with one kill a night is a clever scumclaim?

Personally, I think a name cop would benefit scum a lot more than it would town.

BBmolla, your SUPERVISOR and Town Name Cop, has been lynched.

So, yeah. There's that theory down the drain. And fishy is right in that the way parama claimed makes him town - no scum in their right mind would counterclaim a name cop (a somewhat scummy role to begin with to be sure) if they knew that name cop was going to be lynched and could probably lynch them without counterclaiming.

Mafia trackers and watchers exist for the purpose of finding power roles; they aren't really equatable to name cops in a game where we've seen that names have nothing to do with roles.

-implosion

[Chair]

i mean... sure, psychiatrist without a serial killer is possible.

But a much simpler explanation is that psychiatrist is a claim which lets haylen stay in the game with the excuse "oh, i haven't found the serial killer yet, but i will tomorrow night!"

[Lurconis]

@Haylen do you think there is an SK and someething has been preventing one of the factions from getting a kill each night or do you think Camn gave you a worthless role for this game?