Open 326: Pick Your Poison (Ende des Speils!)

Amrun · Post Post #1025 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:10 pm

INTERESTING.

RoboThor was obvtown, though.

ISO · Post Post #1026 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:57 am

No power role here. Carry on.

thunderwielder · Post Post #1027 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:09 am

So we know Quilford is confirmo town (unless we get a couter claim).

I have major townie vibes from Hoppster.

I used to have major townie vibes from Amrun until that hammer. So you only read up to page 40, and not page 41?

Cephrir's slot used to be pretty scummy, but Cephrir's been pretty town thus far--making me somewhat inclined to call Maruchan's flailing, just... Maruchan-isms.

somewhat

inclined, mind you.

Mr. Trow, since he isn't the roleblocker, could have made a slip yesterday. That, combined with Quilford's slot finding him suspicious enough to roleblock him twice, and with the other reads I have on everyone, makes me think he's one of the three. PLUS, we DID have a no Kill night one. And Saulres hasn't been breadcrumbing any save results. Maybe Supreme Overlord got lucky. It would make sense, having the kill come from a lurking slot, because not a lot of people would remember/suspect that slot.

And Tragedy (who only Mr. Trow has defended as townie thus far, correct me if I'm wrong) is waay up there on my scumdar. I wish Delta hadn't been such a tard and we had lynched her yesterday.

Right now I see the team as
Mr.Trow/Tragedy/Cephrir
OR
Mr.Trow/Tragedy/Amrun

thunderwielder · Post Post #1028 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:10 am

EBWODP
Amrun, that's a real question in my last post that I would like you to answer.

ISO · Post Post #1029 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:08 am

I'm not sure what to think about Amrun's hammer. Part of me wants to say it's way too ballsy to be deliberate, but on the other hand he was pretty widely considered town, so perhaps he could get away with it. It's hard for me to be too critical because Delta was probably son to be hammered anyway and I don't think there was any way we were not lynching him.

With Thor flipping town, I think Mr. Trow and Tragedy almost have to be scum. I'm not even going to try to call the third yet, obviously it's someone who's been totally evading my scumdar- barring a counterclaim it literally has to be someone I marked as 'town' yesterday, so I'm going to need to rethink things. In a way it's too early to start looking for associative tells, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be a waste of time.

Mr. Trow having been roleblocked is definitely a possibility. The block could help explain the overall lack of interest from that slot.

Amrun · Post Post #1030 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:51 am

I expliclitly said I missed the most recent page at the time. I don't know how I did that, but I did. So I thought I was putting Tragedy at L-1, as indicated in my post, but I wasn't.

I'm leaning toward voting MrTrow.

It fits too perfectly with the blocks. It's possible saulres saved the kill n1, but Trow has at least 50% chance of being scum. Them's pretty good odds. Also it really makes sense with PoE and lurkiness for it to be him.

thunderwielder · Post Post #1031 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:59 am

My question, Amrun, was just because you wrote "Tragedy is voting me" when the third last post on that page was Tragedy unvoting you. And then there was the votecount. So I could envision a situation where you would hammer Delta, and then pretend like you didn't see it... but then again, Delta was almost for sure lynched yesterday, and I don't doubt that your early vote changed the outcome that was already set in motion.

I am also leaning towards voting Mr. Trow. It's between him and Tragedy, obviously, as per my scum team predictions, but with the added bonus of the potential (and actually, fairly likely) roleblock on day 1, he would be where my vote is headed too. I agree that he is currently our best bet.

Amrun · Post Post #1032 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:08 am

I thought Tragedy was voting me because on that page I was reading, Tragedy was. >.> Idk, I derped it.

thunderwielder · Post Post #1033 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:23 am

Hmm. But that would mean, you only read up until page 39, because on page 40 Tragedy unvoted you, and page 41 Trow put Delta at L-1. But, on the bottom of page 39, it's your post, so you would have had to have read page 40, where Tragedy unvotes you. Something isn't fitting with your story. So IGMEOY. But definitely not for today. We need to focus on the scumminess at hand and make sure we live to the next day.

So Trow and Tragedy... make your cases. OR counter claim Quilford.

Hoppster, now that your Mothrax case has fallen flat, where to next?

Tragedy · Post Post #1034 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:55 am

Well, assuming that MrTrow was really roleblocked and shizzles, then he wouldn't be on the top of the scumdar. Durr.
But as I mentioned earlier; I'm a

Vanilla Townie

.

I thought thunderwielder was obvious town out of everyone (To be Honest). IGMEOY, Amrun.

Amrun · Post Post #1035 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:13 am

Omg, learn to look at intent.

TOTAL SCUM INTENT THERE

YUP

TOTALLY

Jesus christ.

I don't know (or care) which page or pages I was on or missed. I never mentioned page numbers because I didn't pay attention to them. I clearly thought I was putting Tragedy at L-1.

Hoppster · Post Post #1036 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:36 am

In post 1033, thunderwielder wrote:Hoppster, now that your Mothrax case has fallen flat, where to next?

um

this is going to sound a bit stupid

but I don't really know

tempted to random.org this tbqh

I suppose really MrTrow seems a natural place to look based on the RB, but in a world where Nobody Special / mothrax / DeltaWave isn't scum, NOTHING MAKES SENSE ANY MOARRRRR

The Amrun-"WHOOPS ACCIDENTAL HAMMER" is null, though (pretty sure of that). Scum wouldn't have needed a fake-accidental-hammer to get DeltaWave lynched.

Tragedy · Post Post #1037 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:13 pm

In post 1035, Amrun wrote:Omg, learn to look at intent.

TOTAL SCUM INTENT THERE

YUP

TOTALLY

Jesus christ.

I don't know (or care) which page or pages I was on or missed. I never mentioned page numbers because I didn't pay attention to them. I clearly thought I was putting Tragedy at L-1.

You're being too dramatic over that. It makes it sound really scummy, to be honest.

Amrun · Post Post #1038 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:14 pm

oh god

robothor

who did this to you

i'm on my own now

Amrun · Post Post #1039 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:50 pm

v/la for the weekend; sick

thunderwielder · Post Post #1040 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:55 pm

You keep mixing up Tragedy and DeltaWave, Amrun. I don't know if that's where your wording keeps going off on me.

Tragedy, I'm confused by your statement "Assuming Trow was roleblocked, he WOULDN'T be the top of scum list." Is this saying that if Mr. Trow was blocked on the first night, he's not scum? Or that if he was blocked, he is scum? I don't quite understand your reasonings, or your wordings. Some clarification on this would be nice.

Mr.Trow, you're now continuing to lay low. Is this a strategy of yours? Are you scum, you can be honest with us, we all appreciate honesty...

Amrun · Post Post #1041 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:03 pm

Yeah, I meant DeltaWave. I had/have a pretty high fever. I'm just giving up on mafia for now. I'll try again after the weekend.

Tragedy · Post Post #1042 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:07 pm

In post 1040, thunderwielder wrote:You keep mixing up Tragedy and DeltaWave, Amrun. I don't know if that's where your wording keeps going off on me.

Tragedy, I'm confused by your statement "Assuming Trow was roleblocked, he WOULDN'T be the top of scum list." Is this saying that if Mr. Trow was blocked on the first night, he's not scum? Or that if he was blocked, he is scum? I don't quite understand your reasonings, or your wordings. Some clarification on this would be nice.

Mr.Trow, you're now continuing to lay low. Is this a strategy of yours? Are you scum, you can be honest with us, we all appreciate honesty...

Let me revise that thought.

Based on the lack of death on Night 1, we can assume that either he was docced or Mafia was RB'd.
Then we could find more chances of MrTrow being scum this way.

But MrTrow being roleblocked =/= NOT on top of scum list.
My bad, I forgot that there's 3 scums, meaning any one of those 3 could have sent it.
Blargh

ISO · Post Post #1043 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:25 pm

Hoppster wrote:The Amrun-"WHOOPS ACCIDENTAL HAMMER" is null, though (pretty sure of that). Scum wouldn't have needed a fake-accidental-hammer to get DeltaWave lynched.

This.

Quilford · Post Post #1044 (ISO) » Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:24 am

Prod-dodging again; running into Internet troubles.

Xalxe · Post Post #1045 (ISO) » Sat Oct 01, 2011 6:46 am

A votecount would go here, if any votes were in play.

Tragedy · Post Post #1046 (ISO) » Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:37 am

In post 1038, Amrun wrote:oh god

robothor

who did this to you

i'm on my own now

This post reeks stupidity. I would say scum would post like this since it's pretty much irrelevant to whatever the hell's going on.
But I still didn't see how Robothor was obvious town, especially when he sort of...Vanished. As he admitted yesterday, too.
...
Sigh.

Hoppster · Post Post #1047 (ISO) » Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:39 am

In post 1046, Tragedy wrote:
In post 1038, Amrun wrote:oh god

robothor

who did this to you

i'm on my own now

This post reeks stupidity. I would say scum would post like this since it's pretty much irrelevant to whatever the hell's going on.
But I still didn't see how Robothor was obvious town, especially when he sort of...Vanished. As he admitted yesterday, too.
...
Sigh.

Stupid-tell = scum-tell?

Tragedy · Post Post #1048 (ISO) » Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:40 am

In post 1047, Hoppster wrote:
In post 1046, Tragedy wrote:
In post 1038, Amrun wrote:oh god

robothor

who did this to you

i'm on my own now

This post reeks stupidity. I would say scum would post like this since it's pretty much irrelevant to whatever the hell's going on.
But I still didn't see how Robothor was obvious town, especially when he sort of...Vanished. As he admitted yesterday, too.
...
Sigh.

Stupid-tell = scum-tell?

Because she's trying so hard to look town that she ended up looking stupid to do so.

thunderwielder · Post Post #1049 (ISO) » Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:52 am

Hmm. I forgot about Tragedy vs Amrun. With this being the case, and considering they are going after each other when it's Lylo, I hardly think that there is a possibility of them both being scum. In this case, I'd have to say Amrun is still looking slightly more town than Tragedy, but really I'm pretty sure I'm holding that gut from a while ago. But I don't see the benefit of the scum trying to bus each other in Lylo, so for now my scum team prediction has switched back...

Actually, I don't know what the fack I'm saying right now. I guess scum can still bus each other. It's not like they're throwing down any votes, anyway. Now I'm just rambling, sorry guys, it's been a long day.

I guess what I'm trying to say, or ask, or figure out, is a list of everyone's reads. Now is no longer the time to hold anything close to the chest. We need to be upfront and figure out who suspects who and why.
Tragedy, would Amrun be your top suspect?
Amrun, who is your top suspect? You said you were leaning Mr. Trow before (unless I'm misremembering), does that still stand?
Mr. Trow--Where ARE YOU?
Quilford, if you're able to respond to this, who's top on your list--you're the only confirmo town right now, so you need to step up and lead us in a good direction. We all know we can trust your opinion (unless Trow magically counterclaims), so please don't hold back with it.
Hoppster, any new leads? How do you feel about everyone right now?
Cephrir, who's top suspect for you? Second top?

Let's start some dialogue. Because if we keep not dialoguing our deadline's just going to come up, we'll mislynch quickly or not lynch at all, and lose this game. Now, more than ever, we need to get things cooking.