Mini 1241: Lab Mafia (Game Over)

[Empking]

Vote Count 2.3

1. el simo (1) - Internet Stranger
2. charter (2) - Riceballtail, Fenix
4. Wasabi
5. Chkflip
7. Riceballtail
8. Fenix (1) - charter
9. 4nxi3ty (1) - NanookTheWolf
10. NanookTheWolf (1) - el simo
11. Internet Stranger (1) - Chkflip

Not Voting: Wasabi, 4nxi3ty,

[el simo]

@ El simo - First I'm scum because I removed a vote and placed it on IS as a gentle poke. Then I'm scum because I took the 'easy' road yesterday by voting for Anxiety instead of L. You make the statement that L and I are scum, L obviously is not.

You are confused. I said you were scum "for obvious reasons, his weak unvote, his opportunistic lynch all liars push, and he was on both the Fenix wagon and now the easy lynch Anxiety wagon."

I clearly made two separate cases on both you and L. L being town does not mean my case on you is wrong.

Thats 3 of 4 of his suspects sitting on the wagon he wasnt particularly fond of, so naturally the right solution is to jump on it with two from his suspect list sitting on it? Scum also dont have the balls to pound two at a time on an early wagon. Normally the Day 1 wagon shines the brightest because most of the people on it end up dead and youll get singled out quickly. So scum always have an off-wagon to jump to.

Yeah that was just an overlook on my part. When I did my reread originally I was looking at Wasabi as scum, but as I read I ended up on a tangent with L and Nanook. If you remember I had unvoted Nanook just before. That was because I thought I had found something on Wasabi when I listed those 4 players, but after the reread I realized I had nothing and Nanook popped back up on my screen, this time with L.

Fenix tried to earn townpoints with his stunt.

Yeah I can see Fenix' scum motivation for this. In our last game, HorrifyingHero fake claimed miller, and when they did eventually kick into gear and posted their findings from the claim everyone pretty much conf town'd him. Also: Fenix was scum this game.

Yeah I guess I could buy into a Fenix lynch. /inb4nanookdistancing

[charter]

Also Fenix has done little but OMGUS me since I've called him scum, citing my lack of prolific posting, while ignoring all others who are just as guilty.

[Fenix]

I've stated both Wasabi and Anxiety as scum as well as you. If I have reasons and you acknowledge that I have reasons for calling you scum, it's not OMGUS. That term has a very specific use for the fail-logic of "you suspect me, therefore, scum".

[Fenix]

It's hard to get a read on anybody in this game because everyone is so vague with their cases. All these one lined declaration of who is scum and votes to boot really make it a struggle to read anyway.

Here's my post on why Wasabi and Anxiety are [L]-wagoning scum.

Here's are my posts on why Charter, while maybe not the most scummy here, avoids content and tunnels me instead of scumhunting.

I have not made a post about chkflip yet. However, he appears to be scumhunting well and using good logic in a legitimate effort to catch scum, so I have him as a town-read. I would say the same for you.

IS is a very odd player, I'm having an extremely difficult time getting a read on him. Nanook is the same way. Riceballtail reads like Ythan with an IS obsession -_- I'm going to have to read her(?) posts much moreso in context. All three need an ISO-re-read on my part.

[charter]

I've stated both Wasabi and Anxiety as scum as well as you. If I have reasons and you acknowledge that I have reasons for calling you scum, it's not OMGUS. That term has a very specific use for the fail-logic of "you suspect me, therefore, scum".

You have, but you haven't said anything about anyone else who isn't posting up to your requirements, and RBT is by far the biggest lurkmonster in this game. Your only reason for suspecting me is you think I should be posting more. Well why don't you find RBT scummy for posting even less and every one of his posts being a mostly useless one liner?

[Riceballtail]

I've stated both Wasabi and Anxiety as scum as well as you. If I have reasons and you acknowledge that I have reasons for calling you scum, it's not OMGUS. That term has a very specific use for the fail-logic of "you suspect me, therefore, scum".

You have, but you haven't said anything about anyone else who isn't posting up to your requirements, and RBT is by far the biggest lurkmonster in this game. Your only reason for suspecting me is you think I should be posting more. Well why don't you find RBT scummy for posting even less and every one of his posts being a mostly useless one liner?

Speaking of useless one-liners, read your ISO lately? Or just trying to get the heat off you, scumbag?

[charter]

I'm pointing out why Fenix is OMGUSing me, because he's not applying his logic across the board. I could care less that you're doing nothing. But you're very defensive about this.

[Wasabi]

I'm going to go ahead and put down:

VOTE: 4nxi3ty.

[4nxi3ty]

hmm el simo is my only confident town read. i don't get scum vibes from fenix yet i agree with charter that not following up with dicussion after his fakeclaim is odd, thinking fenix might be a sk(makes sense with a vig claim). gonna wait a while before placing my vote.

[charter]

So, why do you think Fenix might be a SK? We had one kill last night, and Maxous was hardly very townish.

The only reason I can think someone would say someone might be a SK is because he isn't scum with them. FOS Anxiety.

[4nxi3ty]

think about it... why would someone choose to claim one-shot vigilante.

either he is vanilla townie trying to start discussion, scum trying to look like he was starting discussion, he actually is a vig trying to find scum, or he is an sk trying to set up a win.

sk seems to be the most likely possibilty given his day one play. it should be said that an sk is not a lynch priority but is definitely something to scrutinize.

[charter]

That doesn't make much sense, his claim was terrible. I think he did it to try and look town, but he had very poor execution of it.

[4nxi3ty]

which part doesn't make sense?

[charter]

Your reasoning behind why he claimed one shot vig. He obviously can't make an extra kill because he took the claim back. Therefore he was only claiming to try and look town. He didn't claim because he could make a kill, either as town or SK.

[4nxi3ty]

i gave you four reasons of why he might claim, you agreed with one of them.

why are you refusing to consider other possibilities?

[charter]

You gave a reason for every possible scenario, and I'm saying some of them make zero sense.

[4nxi3ty]

every scenario? really? i never said he was a VI.

your the one who accidently hammered yesterday, right?

[charter]

Yes, and?

[4nxi3ty]

so why didn't IS bring that up when he was discussing the wagon on L?

[charter]

Why are you asking me this?

[4nxi3ty]

it should be obvious, given you recent responses to my posts i find you scummy. i was speculating about who you might be buddies with. there is nothing definitive at this time and that is all i have to say for now.

[charter]

I didn't know you find me suspicious, what are your reasons for finding me suspicious?

[chkflip]

Stranger needs more content. He's trying to float through and wait until my vote moves.

Not sure what to make of charter/anxiety at first glance. They both bring valid points. Distancing?

Wasabi, I think I know why you voted that way; can you explain it for the peanut gallery?

ITT RBT IS POT CALLING CHARKETTLE BLACK

[Wasabi]

Well, I'll confess: I'm inclined to take out one (or possibly both) of the fakeclaimers. Though both say they did it to foster discussion, I don't really see how it really got the ball rolling on any *useful* discussion. Of the two, I'm really picking 4nxi3ty because he's not Fenix, who I feel is making a more genuine attempt at scumhunting (including his misguided suspicions of me).