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Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:49 pm

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My opinion of lurking period is that it's null. I'll look into them, though, as it's a case-by-case deal. Though I still don't think it's a very strong tell regardless.
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Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:56 pm

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And just to get this correct, you think Jackalope is town, because of the vote on xvart? And solely that?
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Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:00 pm

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Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:31 pm

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I don't like chkflip's vote. I'd like him to explain why a scum-myk would kill Fate and expose the mason claim as a fake.
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Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:20 pm

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To attempt to confirm himself as town. You guys ate it up as a derp-Fate moment and now he rides free.

See also: Myko's greatest adversary, xRECKx, dead N2. Not a coincidence.
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Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:30 pm

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myk was more confirmed town with Fate alive than with Fate dead. I'm not saying that myk is cleared town, but certainly shouldn't be today's lynch, not when Bunny can investigate.
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Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:32 pm

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T_T OKAY.

I'll return to re-reading and come back with some reads. Not moving my vote right now, though.
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Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:44 pm

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In post 1248, chkflip wrote:VOTE: mykonian

A weak vote like that last one this late in the game? Because he was certain about the number of scum and just came off an active lurking stint? You're killing me, smalls. That's not a D5 worthy vote and you know it, myscum. You're floating an easy mislynch here.


the guy, has never, in this whole game, done anything but making bandwagon votes. "Just came off an active lurking stint" doesn't really cover what is going on here. But sure, be paranoid and be thejak's white knight. I don't mind as long as it's temporary.
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Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:41 am

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In post 1255, Mastermind of Sin wrote:myk was more confirmed town with Fate alive than with Fate dead. I'm not saying that myk is cleared town, but certainly shouldn't be today's lynch, not when Bunny can investigate.

If bunny dies can we lynch Myko then? =D
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Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:23 am

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If there would actually be any reason to lynch me, that question would still make no sense.

Anything constructive to add?
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Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:19 am

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We're not lynching Myk.

I'd rather yell at Fate post-game than for my hands to be stained by a terribad mislynch.

Also I'm kinda semi-retired at this point blah blah low activity and whatnot.
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Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:46 am

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After UPick I don't know why you'd want to trust Fate's instincts, Katsuki. =P
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Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:02 pm

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In post 1259, mykonian wrote:If there would actually be any reason to lynch me, that question would still make no sense.

Anything constructive to add?

Besides the fact the sole reason I've let you off is Fate claiming mason, I think I still am trapped in my belief that you are scum.
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Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:05 pm

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In post 1262, dramonic wrote:
In post 1259, mykonian wrote:If there would actually be any reason to lynch me, that question would still make no sense.

Anything constructive to add?

Besides the fact the sole reason I've let you off is Fate claiming mason, I think I still am trapped in my belief that you are scum.


Poor thing.

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Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:10 pm

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In post 1261, Mastermind of Sin wrote:After UPick I don't know why you'd want to trust Fate's instincts, Katsuki. =P


Fate can't read me for shit, that's something I already know after the 20something games I've played with him. :P

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Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:45 pm

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In post 1264, Katsuki wrote:
In post 1261, Mastermind of Sin wrote:After UPick I don't know why you'd want to trust Fate's instincts, Katsuki. =P


Fate can't read me for shit, that's something I already know after the 20something games I've played with him. :P

Secondly, I always sheep Fate when he's town.


And yet what do you think of his repeated attacks on you?

Also, this is pretty lulzy:

In post 300, Katsuki wrote:
xvart wrote:
Katsuki, 153 wrote:Scum I caught will need to wait, probably until after my vacation ends. Activity restraints etc. etc.

Meanwhile sheeping Elli is the way to go.
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Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:15 pm

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Clearly you have problems with reading comprehension regarding the post you quoted, Nocmen.

As for Fate's attacks, it's an example of him of him not being able to read me A LA UPICK (as a most recent example).
Granted he did unvote so I guess I can't say that he entirely failed at reading me this game.
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Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:34 pm

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So, are we really going to wait for flippo to complete his reread or is there any chance we can set up a wagon for a scumlynch here?
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Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:49 pm

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Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:18 am

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Day 5 Votecount 1

Katsuki - 1 - Bunnylover
TheJackalope - 4 - Nocmen, Banshee, mykonian, StrangerCoug
dramonic - 1 - TheJackalope
mykonian - 1 - chkflip

Not Voting - 3 - dram, katsuki, MoS

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Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:46 am

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Okay, I was flat wrong about something and a reread with the most recent nightkills proves it.

Scooby (now Mastermind of Sin) thought that Trekkers was killed because the scum thought he was a cop of some kind due to some comments made by Trekkers directly at Dramonic. I argued successfully but incorrectly that the scum did not kill Trekkers. However, I now know (and everyone should know) that I was very wrong and this isn't clearing Dramonic at all from Scooby's accusations.

Tentatively saying these are vig kills (possible SK, but most likely vig):

  • Night 1: Blackberry, VT
    Night 2: xRECKONERx, Town Roleblocker
    Night 3: no kill
    Night 4: Ellibereth, Mafia Goon

And these are the scum kills:

  • Night 1: Flameaxe, Gambler (doc)
    Night 2: Trekkers, VT
    Night 3: Oman, Undercover Cop
    Night 4: Fate, governor


Scum isn't going to shoot itself; Porochaz said that kill flavour remained more or less consistent between types and was distinguishable in that way. So we can be sure that the second group is the set of scum kills since they don't include a scum kill and the other set does.

So Dramonic is not cleared of being scum, and anyone who was relying on that should stop. Additionally, he should probably have noticed this himself but he's remained completely silent on the topic.

I still think TheJakalope is scum, not based on lurking but based on complete confusion of his own views on whether or not I was scum (first I was, then I was "still town", then I was scum again as soon as it was expedient); this looks like scum trying to look active and push a lynch without actually bothering to read the game or remain consistent. But I am more interested in Dramonic's reply to this and why he didn't notice this latest set of nightkills since it was such a major topic of interest to him during the last game day.

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Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:57 am

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In post 1269, Porochaz wrote:Day 5 Votecount 1

Katsuki - 1 - Bunnylover
TheJackalope - 4 - Nocmen, Banshee, mykonian, StrangerCoug
dramonic - 1 - TheJackalope

mykonian - 1 - chkflip

Not Voting - 3 - dram, katsuki, MoS

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Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:18 am

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I've been thinking about it more.

I still don't trust myko, especially with the Fate flip.

It just makes that much more sense for scum to agree with a fake mason claim than town.

And then you add it to new vote jumps like that right above, and now I feel even more suspicion.
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Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:18 am

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I thought you were sheeping Fate's reads?
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Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:38 am

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@Bunnylover:


Why did you choose to investigate Dramonic when you did?
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