Yep, Ironhead's latest post sounds forced to me too. It's trying too hard to say "Well I know it's scummy but I'm going to submit it anyway because it's protown and I'm so protown." Though I don't know what to make of it, seeing as I'm still unconvinced that Ironhead is overly scummy.
Vote: Xeras
/That's/ the OMGUS? I don't know how you managed to interpret it that way, but I think it's perfectly clear that it's just pointing out an inconsistency with his case on me. Sounds like you're trying to cover up an opportunistic BW to me.
In post 1424, projectmatt wrote:I think that Ironhead's latest posts sound very forced in tone, specifically this quote.
Somebody's got to be the bad guy and do something to keep this game going. It drives me bonkers to see so much apathy. It's only a game! If you didn't want to play, why did you sign up? Etc. I sincerely wish that the town as a whole would get agitated over comments like:
Empking wrote:Prododge
and
Xeras wrote:Actually, I think uninterested is the proper word.
There is nothing intrinsically scummy about being uninterested (although scum definitely have the high ground if a town allows such shameless inactivity). But the only way for anyone to get interested is to stir the pot and see what rises. No one else seems to want to stir except, to some extent, Oversoul and EPM. Activity begets more activity; the only antidote for inactivity is activity, no matter how trite or forced it is. I don't think anyone can scumhunt if there is nothing to analyze; the only way to generate fodder for analysis is to volunteer that fodder, or to exact it from others. That is why I have offered up my reads -- although it leaves me open to analysis, I also know it helps the town and analysis of me will reveal that I am not the scum we are looking for. But this only works if there are others who are also putting themselves out there for analysis -- I thought my voluntary offer of reads would keep the game going and induces others to offer their reads. Except it didn't; why am I the only one who selflessly opens myself up to attack? There is a difference between town and scum -- town don't mind being analyzed, as there is nothing there to indict them; scum have a vested interest in not doing so, and so will try to weasel out of it (looking strongly at TOGTFO here). But dammit, shouldn't bona fide townies demand it of them -- and of each other?
/gets off soap box
I think after the game we can discuss the dynamics of activity versus inactivity, and I will opine further. In the meantime, I respectfully request that everyone provide their reads -- in the interest of keeping the level of activity up and to allow for scumhunting. Until something happens, this game is essentially dead.
Iron, let me put this simply. You are getting hung up on the wrong person. I am not refusing to give my reads because I dont want to and want to avoid contributing. I am not giving my reads because I need to know some things first.
FF, since you are back... can you please claim? From my early reads, I had you as a townie and I feel your claim will benefit town.
Going through mastin's iso, he looks to be town to me. I am in the middle of trying to make a post, I might aswell be honest and say my attention drifted after about page 10.
Thor665 replaces Lady Lambadelta
Nobody Special replaces Vifam
All slots are now active. NOBODY REPLACE OUT.
You just accepted his replace in, why so harsh? He's not really THAT bad of a player.
In other news, unlike Nobody, I'm sort of planning to not even read all those pages, because it looks like a lot of work. Somebody should tell me who scum is and also who the obv. town players I should sheep are.
/Prodded. Sorry. Between sickness, real life, and mod review, I don't have as much time as I normally would. Hence the delay. But I've got nothing to do for an hour and a half, am logged in, and in the thread. That'll get me working.
Got through eight pages (taking notes slows me down, but they make for a good reference. My quicktopic might not be the largest I've ever made, but it's certainly among my more active ones), but I've run out of time for tonight. (Sorry.) You deserve at least this much:
redFF is looking worse by my notes. Red's only eclipsed by Fool_Hardy, who looks even WORSE. And to some extent, Xeras is looking suspicious as well.
I've concluded once and for all that David's without a doubt town.
Regrettably, that is all I can say solidly on the living players. I could tell you a lot about a few dead players (things which made Johhog town, things which made Kcdaspot town, a few hints at Estyn being town, etc.), and there are a few things I have seen which I am looking in to, but because they're not conclusive (that's what reading the later pages is for--to see these things and if any of them pan out), I don't have a conclusion on 'em, yet.
I did a side-project for this game, figuring, "sure, why the heck not?" just for fun. It was meant to be an extremely subjective division of the players and randomly assigning the groupings I created a chance of scum. Pretty worthless, right? Then I cross-referenced the listings and came up with a few conclusions which most certainly were NOT.
-{Vifam, Matt} contains one scum. And probably only one scum. But no LESS than one. (No prizes for guessing which one I find is more likely...)
-{Foolish Fool, Empking, Xeras} has a decent chance of one scum, but pretty much zero chance of two scum.
-Thor's slot is confirmed town.
-As is TOGTFO's slot, for that matter.
-{Ironhead, Fat, redFF} contains one scum minimum. Potentially two, if {Foolish, Empking, Xeras} is all town. But no less than one.
Tl;dr, suspects are, roughly in order:
Matt
redFF
Xeras
Fat
Ironhead
Vifam
Foolish
Empking
(It's kinda hard to tell the order after Xeras, though. This is just a rough estimate of the order after that; it's kinda hard to be more exact than that.)
@Empking - who should I be voting and why? Should we lynch Mastin for being Mastin? That's usually not a terrible idea.
Y'know guys, as confirmed awesome, you would think I wouldn't have to work this hard to have people react to me. I'm about to claim scum and start voting via random.com just to see if it does anything.
