Double Vote Mafia -Mini 1239- Over

[AurorusVox]

I have no idea what the first line means, so I dunno what to do here.

oh well.

[Rainbowdash]

Um, I don't

have

and ideal double-lynch. Not right now. I'd confidently lynch Friend Maresil and that's it, but now is a good enough time to use the double lynch that I won't fight you on it.
Here's what I THINK you want, though you won't come out and say it: I think Hiraki "is town."

So if you agree with me about now being the best time for a double lynch, try and come up with your best one here. I mean, I love being sheeped and all but you really don't seem too in love with what you are sheeping here and thats concerning me quite a bit. Not to mention that you apparently didn't know why you voted nintendo yesterday, but that something I still need to think about.

@Voided - I think the kill came from somepony not paying much attention most likely. That or somepony who really is going to be protected by me being alive. Its a small group, that both of todays lynches fit the bill.

Hiraki is 100% one of our lynches today at this point due to looking like a partner to nintendo and policy at this point. Im done with that pony.

[Nobody Special]

I'm feeling rather meh about this game. I need to look into FM and AV, but for now:

Vote: Hiraki
Vote: Christine

Please note: The Christine vote is only a placeholder; I just wanted my vote to be on Hiraki but I have no other concrete suspects right now. Re-reading and such probably won't be till either later tonight or tomorrow.

[Hiraki]

Aww NS.

I'm a confirmed read now?

This is shitty.

[AurorusVox]

I think that puts them both at L-2. Someone needs to make sure they're both at L-1 when we're ready, and we'll have Rainbowdash hammer. Anyone tossing our double lynch out of the window by "accidentally" hammering will be lynched on sight tomorrow.

[Rainbowdash]

I think that puts them both at L-2. Someone needs to make sure they're both at L-1 when we're ready, and we'll have Rainbowdash hammer. Anyone tossing our double lynch out of the window by "accidentally" hammering will be lynched on sight tomorrow.

Absolutely the plan.

Im going to wait at least 24 hours though. Friend has promised content, there are a few other ponies who have said nothing. Nothing wrong with hearing everypony (who is going to contribute) out.

[AurorusVox]

Oh yeah, that's why I said when we're ready. No need to rush into things.

[Robotnick2]

I've got nothing to say until either Friend or Hiraki have something constructive to say, or someone reveals their one-shot scumdar that instantly exposes a scum. As I don't have that ability, and I suspect neither does anyone else, I'm just basically waiting for Friend/Hiraki to be lynched.

[killerjester]

Hiraki reads as scum mainly for his attacks on AVox. If we're planning a double-lynch I want some time to read up on FM, but it looks like we're waiting on him anyway. At the moment I'd still prefer a Hiraki/VM double lynch.

[Rainbowdash]

Actually I don't fully disagree with you on that one. Friend I had a little bit of a town read on before the scum flip from nintendo, but what I have seen from her is very unimpressive. It is just like what Hiraki is doing, balling up to prevent doing anything that can possibly clear anypony, but to a little less of an extent. I mean, her first response is to attack me? The WIFOM of me being alive is something that has been really bugging me, and Alana dying just has me sitting here like... well...



Think the big thing that is keeping me from actually pulling the wagon off of Friend here is that even if I have my Hiraki read right, Friend eats the lynch before at least four other ponies off the top of my head. So in the offchance that im wrong on Hiraki, Friend snaps back into good lynch category. Either way im going to have to write some mini-essay about what to do on different flips and actually back up my town reads. Just had an experience where town started to turn on one after I died, luckily somepony was able to get them back on the right track, but im not going to let that go down again. If I hit scum today there is no freaking way I get as lucky as I was last night again.

So yeah.

Just waiting to see what Friend and Christine have to say at this point I think since Hiraki has made it pretty obvious he is just going to borderline troll the thread for the rest of the time he is alive. I will give them until Saturday sometime then I will try and coordinate up this double lynch. Maybe tomorrow night if I see evidence of them having been avoiding the game.

[Whiskers]

give me a lil time to build my statement, and get a cup of joe and ill address everything before my lynch. tho before i do i have a few things to point out....

*snip*

....so again. be expecting a pretty big post from me in the next hr or so.

Nearly Nine hours. Is that enough? Are you back from Pony Joe's yet?


Rainbowdash: Hey, hey, I remember why

I

voted Nintendo-- not why you did. I want to point out, though, that I wasn't so confident about him flipping scum, it was more about fighting against there being a strong town leader. Nin needs to learn to follow before he will be able to effectively rebel. I hadbeen defending Nin earlier in the day, and gave little to no explanation as to why I 180'd on him. I was annoyed at him being antitown.

You want Hiraki lynched as scum. I want Hiraki lynched just because-- that's a meta\out-of-game reason. Hiraki is like this in all games, he always looks like this, I don't think he's scum because of it. I want him lynched because of it, but I don't think his scummy playstyle makes him scum.

I want Friend Maresil lynched as scum. I don't remember why

you

want Friend Maresil lynched-- but this one I'm pretty confident of flipping scum.

The other player I'd lynch is Nopony Special, but since I'm

happy

with both of the lynch candidates, I'm happy to sheep you. I don't know that Hiraki is

not

scum, but I think that Hiraki is [not scum for his playstyle].

[Whiskers]

Think the big thing that is keeping me from actually pulling the wagon off of Friend here is that even if I have my Hiraki read right, Friend eats the lynch before at least four other ponies off the top of my head. So in the offchance that im wrong on Hiraki, Friend snaps back into good lynch category. Either way im going to have to write some mini-essay about what to do on different flips and actually back up my town reads. Just had an experience where town started to turn on one after I died, luckily somepony was able to get them back on the right track, but im not going to let that go down again. If I hit scum today there is no freaking way I get as lucky as I was last night again.

So yeah.

What does this mean? I don't get it. If your read on Hiraki is right, Maresil snaps back to... um? Or, no, no, no, wait. If your read on Hiraki is

wrong

, then Maresil becoms a good lynch again... but--



We're lynching them

together

anyway, so it doesn't matter if Friend Maresil has become a good lynch again or whatever, since she'll

also

be lynched.

M I RITE?

[Hiraki]

at this point I think since Hiraki has made it pretty obvious he is just going to borderline troll the thread for the rest of the time he is alive.

You know what? Fuck this.

I'm coming at you straight on.

Explain how I've been "borderline troll" right fucking now.

Just because I haven't done what you fucking expect out of your optimal town pussy doesn't mean that I can't be town due to this "borderline troll" bullshit.

Yes, I've been a bit fucking busy and lagging behind.

However, I've explained my votes and retained most knowledge about this game.

Just because

you

have a obivious problem with my playstyle, which is nothing like yours, doesn't mean it's trollish.

It's how I play, and that's how it's going to roll.

tl;dr: Call me a troll, one more fucking time.

[Whiskers]

See, now I want to see what he'd do.

[AurorusVox]

Vitriolic defence of an alternative playstyle in an attempt to deflect from the deficiencies in your analysis?
Check.

I don't have an issue with Hiraki's "playstyle" per se - I've spoken of VIs as simply "different" players rather than "bad" players before, and I myself am experimenting with alternative ways to play - but

beyond

that there is a larger issue at hand. It doesn't matter HOW you get your scumreads - whether its through questions or not - but if there is an issue where you're unclear on something and you'd rather stick your fingers in your ears than communicate with others about it, especially when it regards a scumread, that's just plain scummy.

This is kinda similar to the fact that you're not willing to develop your scumreads beyond your initial reads on D1, despite everything else that has happened. It's a kind of tunnelling, actually. As the game progresses, circumstances change and that should result in dynamic reads. But your reads are

incredibly

static. Since scum know everything from the start of the game, they would have static reads that they must try to mask as dynamic. In this respect, you have failed.

[Voidedmafia]

Votecount plz, ThAd?

Really want to take my NS vote off and put it on Hiraki, but I'd rather wait for an official votecount to be sure that I'm not hammering.

Hiraki, you're right, you're not trolling in the /b/ sense (acting a certain way to get us riled up), but you are. NOT. HELPING. At ALL. Yes, I probably sound like I'm sheeping Vox here, but he's practically hit the nail on the head and shoved it home--no point in me denting the wood.

[ThAdmiral]

Vote count (ask and ye shall receive)

AurorusVox - 1 (Hiraki)
Voidedmafia - 1 (Killerjester)
Christine - 1 (Nobody Special)
Robotnick2
killerjester
Friend Mairsil - 4 (Voidedmafia, Robotnick2, AurorusVox, Hiraki)
Hiraki - 4 (Killerjester, Robotnick2, AurorusVox, Nobody Special)
Whiskers
Rainbowdash
Nobody Special - 1 (Voidedmafia)

Not voting - Christine, Friend Marisil, Whiskers, Rainbowdash

Friend Marisil is -2
Hiraki is -2

[Voidedmafia]

Thank ya

Unvote NS, vote: Hiraki

[Hiraki]

Oh look! You're doing it!

Imposing views! This is delightful!

[Voidedmafia]

Imposing...huh?

Why/How are we imposing views when what Vox and others has outlined is a near-objective truth about your play so far?

[Christine]

Apologies for being so MIA. I have been sick.

Vote Friend

for the following:

....so again. be expecting a pretty big post from me in the next hr or so.

Vote Hiraki

for trolling

[Robotnick2]

And that's a hammer.

Oh dear.

[Christine]

It happens.

[Robotnick2]

Christine, we had a double lynch set up.

Wanna tell us why you screwed that up?

[Whiskers]

Because she's a dumbfuck that we will lynch the shit out of tomorrow.

HEY CHRISTINE: READ THE FUCKING GAME.

Blacklisted. Hey-- Hey-- "IT HAPPENS."

tl;dr: tomorrow we lynch Friend and Christine (unless, of course, some miraculous slip), and if somehow Christine flips scum but Friend doesn't, I vote for Rainbowdash.