Mini 1238 - One After the Other - Over!

[Killjoy]

Monk isn't scum.

Bit since everyone doubts me whatever.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: MonkyMonk

Lollipop drunkkkkkkk

Bitches gunna be so jealous when I'm rightgg

[chkflip]

I'll restate -- that's strawmanning at best. And I got you mixed up with someone else on the ad hom thing. I'm in too many games right now. x-x

[monk]

Killjoy, if you don't think I'm scum then don't vote me

[monk]

chk, who do you think could be scum when I flip town?

[chkflip]

Still not liking Pseudo, growing a distaste for whisper and to an extent Ash.

But you're flipping scum.

[chkflip]

Speaking of which:

Mod:

it's been four days since Ash has posted. You've already mass prodded, is there a chance for a replacement there? If so, any chance for a small extention on the DL so said replacement can catch up?

[monk]

Still not liking Pseudo, growing a distaste for whisper and to an extent Ash.

But you're flipping scum.

really? Guess I must be a miller then

[Whiskers]

What, specifically, is strawmanning, in that little case?

Isn't strawmanning where you take something that isn't an issue and make it an issue?

also, Killjoy-- Just No. for christ's sake, lynch chkflip. Don'tvote your townread.

That said, I almost started this post with a hemmer. I'm ready for the Day to be fucking OVER.

[Nobody Special]

You want a hammer? Fine.

unvote

Vote: Monk

There you go.

[Whiskers]

A "Straw man" argument (also called "setting up a straw man") involves mischaracterizing your opponent's position in order to present a weaker argument than they have actually given, thereby allowing you to defeat it. It usually involves subtle changes to the given facts of the matter, or minor changes to wording that lead to semantic differences in what is said.

Also, "Strawmanning" involves taking a small piece of the case someone has built up that is weaker than their other points and blowing it up. They can then defeat the weaker point and use that as 'proof' that everything that person has said is wrong.

If done skillfully, even the opponent will not realize what has gone wrong with their argument at first. In Mafia, this can give a Scummy player enough momentum to gain a lynch before anyone notices flaws in the new argument. If this is done in the Endgame, it can be a game-winning ploy. Otherwise, it is risky because many players may examine the argument anew during the Night phase, and find the holes in logic.

Dude, your case is straw-manning at best.

See also: whining about my ad hom and then ending with ad hom makes that entire post worthless. Stop fluffing the thread and come back when you actually have a case for me to defend, guy.

Chkflip remained scummy. What he did was scummy, no matter whether he was reading or re-reading. I'll go there next.
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chkflip ISO:
#444: Votes for no good reason.
#446: Buddying, putting heavier suspicion on monk for that thing which is a meh-tell.
#449: Nice one-liner, bro.

FoS

: chkflip
...but why no vote?
#451: Fluff? But I agree, the M/S fluff is annoying. A Breadcrumb, maybe? While Pseudo's attacks on you don't look like bussing, your attacks on him do.
#452: Yeah, but why?
#464: Yeah, but WHY!? Why are you together, forming a team? btw, if you are scum, then you can pick some buddies out of three townies and say, "ooh, these guys are town."
#485: Protip: Do something, you lurking asshat.
#487: FUNNY!? you seemed to have made town-reads (for no reason, I'll add), and established

two

scum reads-- monk, and pseudo. But nice try.
#491: Since gilda technically didn't ask for WHY he had those town reads, this post is... okay, I guess. Still, just say who you replaced. you have the time &effort to be a jerk, why not type the names out? It'd take less time.
#494: Doesn't matter,
Because either way, all you were going to do was say monk was scum for the same thing. (#500.)

So, "Emphasis on RE-reading, genius." and then "What's the difference?"

#502: The difference is, if monk is really scum, then you'll have reads and reasons of your own. If you come to the same conclusion on your own, it's not really a sheep, is it?

Also, since you weren't finished "

RE

-reading, genius." because you "read threads several times." you weren't ready to throw out a vote, so the fact that you were "

RE

-reading" "is moot, bro."

chkflip is scum.

Whom did he replace, Friend, right? I'll look briefly at his ISO next.

Aha, see, Friend I like. his posts about monk had substance and were reasonable. He also got into a scuffle with whispersilk, which I don't mind. Friend might have been a misguided townie, but chkflip is scum. Also, Friend is a very good player, so, he could hide his scumminess better?
Freind's scum-reads: Pseudo, ThirdKoopa, Ashblade. (Bussing, bussing, redherring?)

Also, I dont' recall having used any ad hom, but thanks. Care to point it out to me?

Uh-huh, uh-huh, and WHERE am I making a straw-man?

I'll wait.

[Whiskers]

You want a hammer? Fine.

unvote

Vote: Monk

There you go.

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What? Why? What the-- What was that!?

[monk]

You want a hammer? Fine.

unvote

Vote: Monk

There you go.

That's not a hammer, it's L-1

[Meransiel]

Vote Count 2.5

Undecisive wieners are you.

Monk - Empking, chkflip, Hiraki, Killjoy, NS (L-1)
Killjoy - Ashblade (1)
chkflip - Whiskers (1)
Not voting - like 2 people

Deadline in 3 days.

@chkflip: If I manage to find a replacement in 3 days, I will give you 3 more days. Otherwise, no.

[Empking]

Monk - Empking, chkflip, Hiraki, Killjoy, NS (L-1)

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[Whiskers]

Mod: Who is getting replaced?

Ashblade

[Whiskers]

Also,

Vote Count 2.5

Undecisive wieners are you.

Monk - Empking, chkflip, Hiraki,

Killjoy

, NS (L-1)
Killjoy - Ashblade (1)
Ashblade -

Killjoy

(1)
chkflip - Whiskers (1)
Not voting - like 2 people

Deadline in 3 days.

@chkflip: If I manage to find a replacement in 3 days, I will give you 3 more days. Otherwise, no.

[Whiskers]

You want a hammer? Fine.

unvote

Vote: Monk

There you go.

I demand an explanation.

[Nobody Special]

It's a gambit. It failed.

[Whiskers]

Isn't that why monk was getting lynched?

[Nobody Special]

Totally different situation. Do try to keep up.

[chkflip]

Totally different situation. Do try to keep up.

Is it just me or is Whiskers white-knighting getting really old?

And so not pro-town anymore.

btw, pretty much the whole thing is opinionated and exaggerated; therefore, strawman.

[Empking]

Totally different situation. Do try to keep up.

Is it just me or is Whiskers white-knighting getting really old?

And so not pro-town anymore.

btw, pretty much the whole thing is opinionated and exaggerated; therefore, strawman.

So much this.

[Whiskers]

Sigh:
White-knighting? Hi there, Appeal to Emotion-- Where am I white-knighting? Or are you just using another buzzword you learned in the wiki?

When was I ever "pro-town"? I'm not in your little group of pretend confirmed townies, remember? If you were town, I wouldn't be confirmed town to you, or anything.

Opinionated: The opinion being that you are playing scummily, and are therefore scum.
Exaggerated: Er, where? Again, you just point at my whole general gameplay and dismiss it as something. You're dismissing my case against you and then asking me why I haven't given you any arguments to disprove.

BE SPECIFIC.

Empking, you're no better.

[Killjoy]

UNVOTE:

Ya. Being drunk is bad for my logic.

Nobody's vote, his bad playing, and that failed hammer are not town play.

VOTE: NS

[monk]

Killjoy why is the fake hammer not town?