Mini 1243: Magician Mafia (Game Over)

[Junpei]

A response to Crab Canon, yes.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Hmmm... I think one of the problems with me not posting is that I usually don't have anythiing to say. I usually sit in the back and observe the game as an outsider. I'll be doing an ISO, but anything else I should do?

[Junpei]

Not anything to comment on? Really? How about your reads, how about some of the interactions the past few pages at least have shown? The former is more important than the latter.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

My thoughts on 4nxi3ty

*carries a magic hat over to vi*
*the weight of it is pressing down on his hands*

*slips on some seafood on the floor*

not you. I mean SR and

ace suddenly turning tail

.

*Anxiety

*goes back to the side*
*and waits with junpei and amrun who are looking suspiciously at him*

This post made me think of why he included junpei and amrun in it. Could it be a scumteam slip?

vi, i have two different theories of why your playing this out. i'll see where this goes but don't let this become a repeat of yesterday.

What exactly are your theories?

After reading through his ISO, I have a null read on him. He seems scummy, but has attempted to scumhunt (better than me anyways) but he seems to have only ISOd Saul. This strikes me as scum tunneling town, or possible bus. I'll figure that out after I read Saul's ISO.

I wish I could do more right now but I work 2-10pm today. I'll try and do another ISO tonight, but no garentees (I can't spell)

[Amrun]

Why did you just make a case on dead town, junpei?

[ace5993]

4nxi3ty, I'm highly uninterested in asking you questions.

The tone in GNR's #851 and 853 is just sooooo fake. 4nxi3ty and GNR keep out-doing each other >_> Would vote for either, I think the scenario in which they're both scum makes a lot of sense.

[Junpei]

Why did you just make a case on dead town, junpei?

Read closer, Amrun, and you'll notice that I was responding to Crab Canon's question as to my thought process in deciding that I'd hammer on spring instead of joining the Ace wagon at the end of Day 1.

[Amrun]

I saw that, but it's completely pointless. You could always fabricate that after the fact.

[Crab Canon]

So you're saying us trying to figure out Junpei's motivation at that stage is pointless?

VP head reporting in here. I've read up, but I need to discuss things with my other head because I have a few different reads from her atm.

[Amrun]

No, but I just think scum or town could have both made that post he just made.

[Crab Canon]

well, that's probably true of any post. You really seem to not be giving Junpei any legs to stand on. What is the bullet version of your Junpei case again?

[Crab Canon]

I'll be waiting right here in the meantime. Shouldn't take long to sum it up.

[Luxury]

luxury needs to go into detail about why an sk lynch is more profitable than a scum lynch( silly rabbit).

Because we think Riggs is our best best to lynch an antitown faction, which is what we should be going for. His flip gives us the info we want even if we're incorrect. With scum narrowed down to 4, excluding Riggs, we're taking a 50/50 shot with a vote if our theory of 2 scum 1 SK is correct. We'd rather A. Test the theory B. Lynch the person most likely in our eyes to be a nontown faction.

ace, do you want to know why i asked for a name claim or why i thought spring was a vt, i will only answer one question from you.

This is blatantly antitown, cut it out.

Oh, and Amrun:

1. It helps to read the person's post before you press on it, or at least admit you didn't have time to read the entire thing/was too lazy to

2.

I saw that, but it's completely pointless. You could always fabricate that after the fact.

I tried to articulate how pointless and retarded this post and its predecessor was but I couldn't do it, so instead I'll just leave a picture of someone crying out of frustration because it's an accurate description of how frustrated and enraged this post made me, combined with my inability to express it in word form. Congratulations on wasting town's time, asking a question already answered expecting a different response when you knew the first answer, presenting a baseless and irrelevant accusation that is literally unprovable, and pointing out the obvious "Any post can come from scum".





-Shift

[Crab Canon]

the longest bullet case in history

[4nxi3ty]

^^that's not shift he doesn't' talk like that and his scumdar is broken(silly rabbit).

i've changed my mind ace only gets one question for the rest of the game.

is this post best best blatantly anti-town and pointless enough for you to lynch me?

[4nxi3ty]

if you don't like that post try this one:

which is the best lynch?
-a scum read
-a sk read
-or an anti-town read

[Junpei]

The person with the highest average rating amongst the three, I would say. That is to say, that the user with the most in each 3 category.

[Crab Canon]

six posts later, amrun still can't give me some bullet points.

[Luxury]

^^that's not shift he doesn't' talk like that and his scumdar is broken(silly rabbit).

Not going to waste time arguing over whether or not I'm me, unsure if you're joking or if you seriously think I'm lying about posting that. If it's the latter, why aren't you voting me?

A large part of the reason I wanted Regfan to hydra with me in this is because admittedly my scumhunting is weak without him. It's not really sheeping him, more like needing someone to start me on the right track and discuss reads with.

i've changed my mind ace only gets one question for the rest of the game.

is this post best best blatantly anti-town and pointless enough for you to lynch me?

No, you're one of the 4 people we've narrowed it down to but for the moment I won't be voting you. And your playstyle seems to be "Let's see how much bullshit I can get away with for fun/to troll/to annoy players into emotional reactions" so I can see this post coming from either alignment, sadly. Behaving in an antitown manner does not, unfortunately, mean the player has an antitown wincon.

which is the best lynch?
-a scum read
-a sk read
-or an anti-town read

It depends. If your antitown read seems like the type of person who would probably make antitown moves as town, like you, even though you're still one of the 4 scum candidates, then no it's not the best lynch. If they'd probably only make it as scum, then yes vote them. Scum reads/SK reads are again circumstantial, if it's best to leave the SK alive then you should be voting a scum read, if it doesn't matter you should be voting whichever one is stronger. In this case we think voting our SK read is better than voting in the 4 with a 50/50 chance of hitting scum if we're right on it being 2:1:10

Overall, it is the one you think would A. Result in a Mafia/Third Party flip AND B. Result in the best outcome for town (Don't lynch in 4 way with 2 VTs vs. Mafia vs. SK)

-Shift

As tempting as it is to refuse anymore questions from Anxiety to prove my point I'll hold off for now.

[4nxi3ty]

good answer, do you see why i haven't voted for you yet?

how come you narrowed it down to four and not three?

i thought there was only two mafia and a sk?

[Luxury]

good answer, do you see why i haven't voted for you yet?

how come you narrowed it down to four and not three?

i thought there was only two mafia and a sk?

We have the two scum narrowed down to 4 because these are the people we don't have town reads on. These are:

You (4nxi3ty), Amrun, Junpei, and Locke. Again, two scum are in here.

As for which one we'd lynch right now if we had to vote someone other than Riggs, I'm not sure. I'd have to discuss it with Regfan. We also don't think Junpei and Amrun are both scum if there's an SK because bussing is suicide.

Strong town reads: Vi, Crab, Ace

Still discussing town reads of various strength: Saulres (Regfan strong town, Shift weak town), Fishy (Regfan weak town read mainly due to claim, Shift strong town read),

SK read: Riggs (Will be discussing what Riggs is if not SK tonight with Regfan)

-Shift

[4nxi3ty]

okay so it would be impossible for all four to be scum, who is most likely to be town?

[Luxury]

okay so it would be impossible for all four to be scum, who is most likely to be town?

As much as I hate to admit it your latest posts now that I think about it are coming off incredibly town so I'd choose you. Despite doing odd things just to evoke emotional reactions/piss people off, after thinking about our short conversation almost every question you're asking is a good one and seems to be coming from a town PoV.

Again will be discussing this with Regfan, if he agrees with me we'll probably vote Locke because of our belief Amrun+Junpei are not scum together.

[Luxury]

-Shift

[Junpei]

1) I'd like you to clarify. Are those 4 people you have scum reads on or people you don't have town reads on? Specifically I'm asking if your list is primarily process of elimination or direct scumhunting.

2) Given that of those 4 there are 2 scum, and you think GNR is scum, and that there are as you say 3 anti town roles, that means that you must be quite confident in your town reads of the other 5 players. To have it narrowed down to 2 of 4 like that, I can't see any other way except for confidence in your town reads, which your hydra seems to conflict on. Essentially I"d like you to comment on this observation.