Mini 1250: That 70s Smalltown - GAME OVER

[Seacore]

Did you select mb53 because to protect him or to block him? Why do you think he was the killer rather than the defended target?

[Quilford]

mb53 has three posts and is an early game doublevoter. Obviously I wasn't trying to protect him.

I was trying to block him because I felt scum may take advantage of his absence to submit the kill through him. Additionally, I didn't have any particularly strong scumreads in light of iama's flip.

Additionally I didn't feel like wasting my ability on you; I reasoned if you were town that scum would think I was protecting you and that if you were scum you wouldn't be submitting the kill because you'd think I was jailkeeping you.

The Kill Delayer, jasonT1981, can protect you from now on considering you only need to be alive until tomorrow to name us the innocent.

[Quilford]

So, scumreads.

SCUM:
mb53
Seacore
kdowns

LEANING SCUM:
IceGuy
kondi2424

[Seacore]

I'm not sure scum can submit kills on behalf of other players, since they need to be PM'd.

Why am I scum again?

[IceGuy]

Everybody claims their night action in their next post.

[Seacore]

Nil

[Quilford]

you're just scum ok

I can't really be bothered to go into it right now but rest assured when the time comes I will

[Quilford]

Mod: can the mafia submit night kills through another player on their team, even if that player is absent?

Yes. I allow scum to direct absent partners.

[Quilford]

Oh also my language tells are always accurate. 100%.

iama D1, for example.

[kdowns]

Seacore, don't think I haven't forgotten about your attempted policy lynch after IAAUN suggested it.
Also, I believe that is a scum tell asking why weren't you the one who was JK.

VOTE: Seacore

[jasonT1981]

As Fonz said, I am staying. I will quickly explain

As you know, last week I was quite ill, but the main reason is that I had a huge interview, as well as entrance exams and basic training for a job with an airline which was the job I have always wanted since highschool, and when I saw it come up, I applied expecting not to have a shot but made it all the way through to the final stages and the last 50 in the UK out of over 2000 people.

But didn't get it so everything is completely freed up again. I am fully caught up in game as well btw now.

Game thoughts coming up ASAP, just have to find my word document that I saved them on.

Note: During the night it would not allow me to quote as game was locked, so I referenced post numbers where possible.

[jasonT1981]

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post 88 - don't line Seacore saying day 1 is a random lynch since there is no evedience, I have never seen a random d1 lynch. there is always evedience for a D1 LYnch.

not liking Seacore at all. I agree, he is pretty much saying lynch KDowns, seens like scum fear to me, trying to lynch asomeone that might scare the town.

Page 5

more back and forth between KD and Seacore, distancing, bussing? hmmm alot of thoughts on this, Game is dominated by them so far.

Farsides first post (107) striokes me as town.

Seacore is now contridicting himself in 109... information is gotten by generating discussion, but in 88 he said there is no real evediernce to go on day 1. Now pushing a policy lynch idea... not good

Ah here is quilford, I used to scream scum at posts like his first, but not now. he seems to come in and call the scum team quite a lot.

post 115 - Username very bad reaction to Quilfords vote and scum team call

Yea, 118 is makign me think Quilford town. He looks for reactions as town, something I have seen from him.

Cons vote on Quil is weird... but he is right, Quil did mention it both being a joke and a reaction test.

Page 6

MOI big post

quil 130 is hard to make sense off, urgh

quil ignores farsides questions.

MOI is comign across town to me, so is farside.

Iceguy comes in, I like his post, comes across town

Kondi - weird vote on Quilford

End of page 6 reads

Town - IceGuy, MOI, Farside
Leaning town - Quilford
Leaning scum - Con, Kondi
Scum - IAMusername - bad reactions.

MB53 - where is he?

page 7

So many text walls, Seacore vote on MOI does not sit well with me.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 0#p3483190

hmm above, Iceguy is wrong about MOI, IMO. he was recritted N1.. day 1 he was town and didnt want to be executioner.. I know this becausse I recruited him. He accuses MOI as lying.. I don't think either is lying, but Iceguy has gotten mixed up on things from executioner game we were in.

Page 8

don't like Hip going for Quil.. so far, Quil is leaning town for me. I have played as scum and seen Quil scum, does not seem to be scum to me right now at least. Can you show me how it matches is scum meta?

also, Quil has not answered Farsides question from a few pages back,.

Username makes a rather opertunistic vote on MOI.

Quil, Con is right you did say about a joke and reaction test. Still think Con is scummy though. he keeps popping up when heat is off him, and attacks Quil, without anything really else. there is a lot going on, but little said by him. lots of quotes, but all one liners replies.

page 9

MOI Vs Iceguy strikes me as town vs town. I don't think MOI is playing to his scum meta.

Con comes in, attacks MOI, asks for his lynch... is his vote even on him? I will have to check.. ah it actually is.

too many text walls on page 9.. still believe it is town vs town

I am still thinking Quil town, but he has still not answered farsides questions... suspect.

Page 10/11

MOI lynched... expected him to flip town truthfully. Nice kill on username. Don't like Kdowns hammer though, especially with the 'sorry' comment... seems opertunistic.

Town - Iceguy (still think he vs MOI was town vs Town) Farside
Leaning town - Quilford,
Leaning Scum - BV53 (where the hell is he?) Hiplop (need more from him) Kdowns
Scum - Kondi, Con, Seacore- my day 2 will begin with a vote on either one of these three

[jasonT1981]

As promised, my day would begin with a vote on one of my scumreads, I believe Seacore is the one who has stuck out more than anyone this game.

vote:Seacore

[farside22]

I believe Quilford was bussing his scum buddy day 1.

Things that make no sense:

He list 3 players saying they are scum and calls it a reaction test that Iam failed.

I tried multiple time for Quil to answer how what Iam did was scummy.

Finally my answer was:

Farside, to your first question of "How?", I would ask why it's a meaningful question. I think it's pretty obvious iama tried to be as withering as possible in her post and attempted to paint me in a if-not-scum-then-stupid light.
To "Did you really think no one would ask about why you were claiming players were scum in the middle of a serious conversation?" I would say that of course I thought someone would ask, that's the point of a reaction test. I think my post clearly resembled the more lighthearted assertions that are made in early game.

I had to ask further:

How is Iam's reaction to asking you scummy?

Because I was clearly not being serious.

I don't see how he painted you as if not scum then stupid light.

"What exactly do you expect to achieve by calling people scum for no reason whatsoever"

Then further:

1> Really Iam is physic. I had no clue!
Iam when where you going to tell me. I know tell me who is scum. Come on you apparently know what people are thinking here!

Are you serious? I went through this with ConSpiracy for a few awful pages. The whole "say three people are scum when half the playerlist hasn't posted yet" thing should've been a clear indicator.

2> It's a valid question. You make a statement, you expected someone to call you out and your saying that it's scummy to ask you about your reads and know your not serious?
The point is, it makes me look scummy and stupid.

What gets to me is anyone would have asked Quilford about those reads. Calling one person out over the other 2 (me and CS) who are questioning his motives and him sticking to this lame and weak reasoning reek of scum bussing.


This is either outguessing or someone with inside info.

Actually, I'm betting mafia submitted the kill through mb53.

VOTE: mb53

Yes I read the mod storyline but why assume mafia over SK on this?
Lets ask the mod:

Mod: Does the storyline mean that mafia or the serial killer was responsible for Bob's death.

Also why not ask jason if he took a n1 action?

@Jason

: Did you use your ability last night?

vote: Quilford

Kdown: Why did you vote for MOI? Why did you say sorry?

[IceGuy]

Everybody claims their night action in their next post.

For real.

farside22 - ?
ConSpiracy - ?
Quilford - ?
jason - ?
kondi - ?
Seacore - No action
kdowns - ?
mb53 - ?

[jasonT1981]

@Jason

: Did you use your ability last night?

Yes, I protected Iceguy. Farside and Iceguy were my two main town reads, however I choose Iceguy because of how Farsides role works, I didn't think he would be targetted because he could have picked up a bulletproof and therefor thought Iceguy would have been a better protect..

[farside22]

@Jason

: Did you use your ability last night?

Yes, I protected Iceguy. Farside and Iceguy were my two main town reads, however I choose Iceguy because of how Farsides role works, I didn't think he would be targetted because he could have picked up a bulletproof and therefor thought Iceguy would have been a better protect..

**Thumbs up**

I had a town read on Iceguy myself. I don't know what was up with MOI on that.
Also in regards to Seacore I still have a slight town read. I don't see scum having a grand plan and not waiting for Iam to make his point first.

IE: Seacore voted RVS, then Iam mentions his "plan" and seacore followed it I see it more coming from a town perspective.

[kdowns]

I said sorry because I hate being the hammerer in this situation.

And Ice Cube I don't know why you are asking for a night action from me, I have none.

[IceGuy]

farside22 - ?
ConSpiracy - ?
Quilford - ?
jason - Kill delay IceGuy
kondi - ?
Seacore - No action
kdowns - No action possible
mb53 - ?

[ConSpiracy]

IceGuy:
- Quilford said he blocked mb53.
- Mb53 has no night action.
- My action is not needed as it is confirmable in last.
- I miss something. Next post please.

Also, I believe Quilford.
- Scum letting the inactive kill is likely to happen
- Scum letting someone who

doesn't have a night action

kill is likely to happen
We have two other possibilities of stopping the night actions:
- Scum killing mb53 (this one is neigh impossible)
- Scum killing IceGuy (quite possible, though kill delayer would stop him. Not sure if mafia would want that in a PR heavy game)

@Fonz: If farside dies, will her flip also indicate her new role if she got one?
Will there be distinction in night kill flavour between the serial killer and the mafia?

[IceGuy]

farside22 - ?
ConSpiracy - No claim
Quilford - Blocked mb53.
jason - Kill delay IceGuy
kondi - ?
Seacore - No action
kdowns - No action possible
mb53 - ?

I'll offer my observations when farside and kondi's and mb53's replacements have posted their night actions.

[IceGuy]

EBWOP:

farside22 - ?
ConSpiracy - No claim
Quilford - Blocked mb53.
jason - Kill delay IceGuy
kondi - ?
Seacore - No action
kdowns - No action possible
mb53 - No action possible

I'll offer my observations when farside and kondi's replacement have posted their night actions.

[jasonT1981]

Wait, Quilford, why would you block someone with no known night action?

Why would you block someone who was absent for the majority of D1 too?

[jasonT1981]

oh, fair enough you explained it already. My mistake.

[The Fonz]

@Fonz: If farside dies, will her flip also indicate her new role if she got one?
Will there be distinction in night kill flavour between the serial killer and the mafia?

No and no. The 'no distinction between kill methods' bit is, y'know, in the rules. VC coming when i get out the shower.