camn's temperamental - Mini 1232 - GAME OVER

[Johhog]

No, I won't lie. Tbh I was trying to make my sudden change of heart regarding PeregrineV sound better, but I didn't reread. As bad as it is I just felt that he was scum. Yeah, suddenly and all. :/

[camn]

So it goes.
I got a hole where my mind used to be.
I got a hole where my life used to be.

Johhog

- 3

( Parama Zang PeregrineV )

PeregrineV

- 1

( Johhog )

Parama

- 1

( RedPanda )

NOT VOTING:

( Chair Lurconis )

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.
Deadline is

SATURDAY, October 22nd

, 8pm MY TIME.. . Or whenever I get around to it.

also.. I'll be V/LA this weekend.

[Lurconis]

Parma flip gives us so much more information at this point especially since if we are wrong we are going into Lylo. From my perspective remaining scum is either Johhog/(Chair or Zang) or Parama/Perrigne V. I feel this needs to be discussed before we rush to a lynch with this being potential final vote before LYLO.

[Parama]

You know what I need to do?
I need to reread a lot of stuff v_v

I still think Lurc's point on Johhog from D3 is valid, and I'm not sure why he's not even expressing interest in lynching Johhog (DON'T YOU DARE VOTE HIM RIGHT AFTER READING THIS I WILL HAVE YOUR HEAD).
But yeah let me reread D4 stuff really quick.

[Lurconis]

I would of hammered him in a heartbeat yesterday but now a mislynch means LYLO and I think we need further discussion. I am still willing to lynch him I just don't want to rush it today.

[Parama]

Zang:
>guts says johhog is town
>voting anyways
Why?

Johhog 775 is awful though. There were votes on you yesterday because there was a case on you yesterday, and that case is still valid today. Soooo yeah.

Zang if you don't think your vote is good WJHY DO YOU KEEP IT

AANZAGNGZ ZANG WHY DO YOU HATE MY BRAIN?

RedPanda - Does that make sense though? If you think certain people are scum, and are the only one thinking that, why would scum kill the other people? If they killed you, it'd make people more suspicious of the people you thought were suspicious, WIFOM or not, and it'd better throw town's trail off scum.
So how does that make sense? If scum had it out to get you, wouldn't they have done it by now? If not, why would they be killing people solely because you suspect them? The only logical conclusion here is that either you're scum or your theory is completely insane.

Pere's 781 reads as terrible non-committal... I see no content there.
Lurc 782 - If it's not obvious by now, yes I am roleconfirmed, but not alignment confirmed. And I agree with your stance on Johhog, but one super scummy thing IS enough to override minor towntells in my eyes. I thought he was town at the start of D3. I now think that stance is wrong.

I don't care about the WIFOM possiblities, I still think Lurc's town.

790 - People calling Johhog town are town by default? :S
796 - Show me this vision - I really am interested. If you have some major super thing on Pere that I'm not seeing, I'd love to see it, since he's still potential scum in my eyes.
797 - RedPanda - Only if your conspiracy theory is true, which I don't think it is.

No other flip would give us that much info.

Uh, a scumflip will always give more info than a townflip. This is NEVER a valid argument. "OH, HE MIGHT BE TOWN, AND SO AND SO HAS CLAIMED SCUM, BUT LYNCHING PARAMA OVER SO AND SO GIVES US MORE INFO". See the fallacy? Good. Never use that argument again.
Also... you want Zang lynched... but you don't want to provide a case on him? If you don't think he's getting lynched today, and you're not going to try to get him lynched, then you're wasting your vote. Oh wait nvm you're voting PeregrineV... and not providing a case on him either. Yeah.
Though the lack of effort on Johhog's part may signify either a weak bus or scum who's just given up. Eh. WIFOM.
Hmm... the timing of the switch to Pere does look a lot like last-minute distancing, though.

Parma flip gives us so much more information.

FFS PEOPLE.
Do you think I'm scum?
If you answered no to the above question, you shouldn't give a damn if my flip would give the most information.

I'm sorry for wallposting but I needed to read. I'm even MORE sure on my Johhog read now, though, so.

[Chair]

Parma flip gives us so much more information at this point especially since if we are wrong we are going into Lylo.

Yeah, no.

Parama might remember newbie 1034 (considering he modded it). Late day one, some random townie made a list of people from the most to the least info that would be gained from their lynch.

Guess who was on the bottom of the list! Both scum.

So ask yourself. Do towns win games of mafia by creating more information when there's already 33 pages of it, or do they win games of mafia by killing off all of the mafia?

Chair is town for #788

Why?

-implosion

[RedPanda]

Parama i see it as a setup. Something scum will use against me if im alive at LYLO. Lurconis is Definitely town just because he watched me. Johhogs character here and scums character dont match. thats why hes not scum. If there's a better target whos playing a calculated shrewd game , let me know il change my vote if i see anything there.

[Johhog]

Meh, I was almost thinking about replacing out anyway, I think I overloaded myself a bit, I'm ICing my first game too and that is my first priority. Will stay in the game though if I avoid lynching.
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Chair's confused questioning in #788 is made from a townie mindset. I don't think scum would fake that kind of post.
Parama, I can't show you my vision. You should know by now that my reads is based on gut, not evidence.
And of course I think there's a decent chance that you're scum too.

More later, maybe.

[PeregrineV]

Meh, I was almost thinking about replacing out anyway, I think I overloaded myself a bit, I'm ICing my first game too and that is my first priority. Will stay in the game though if I avoid lynching.
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Chair's confused questioning in #788 is made from a townie mindset. I don't think scum would fake that kind of post.
Parama, I can't show you my vision. You should know by now that my reads is based on gut, not evidence.
And of course I think there's a decent chance that you're scum too.

More later, maybe.

Chair's 788 is a normal question and thus null. Town wants to know why, scum wants town to wonder why.

[Zang]

V/LA until sunday

[Parama]

Prodvoid.

What the hell is happening here.

[Johhog]

Mod; sorry about this but I'm V/LA until Sunday. Sorry for the inconvenience.

[PeregrineV]

I would of hammered him in a heartbeat yesterday but now a mislynch means LYLO and I think we need further discussion. I am still willing to lynch him I just don't want to rush it today.

I'm good with the discussion, but no one is discussing, and it looks like the weekend came early.

And since it can't ignored, if you are town watcher, why do you think you are still alive?
And who were your three watchees on night1, 2, and 3? I was thread-digging but think it's be faster asking you instead.

[Chair]

As far as I can tell, there's two possible explanations for lurc not dying. Either scum are wifoming, or he's scum. And frankly, there's no reason that the scum would wifom and kill other people when he's a watcher who could catch other kills...

Frankly, unless anyone has a better explanation, lurc is probably scum.

-implosion

[Lurconis]

Night 1 Red panda Night 2 Johog Night 3 Red Panda and I have no idea why I am still alive.

[camn]

VLA's noted.. please use your profile tag.
I myself will be V/LA this weekend. I will try and check in from time to time.. but expect little.

Johhog

- 3

( Parama Zang PeregrineV )

PeregrineV

- 1

( Johhog )

Parama

- 1

( RedPanda )

NOT VOTING:

( Chair Lurconis )

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.
Deadline is

SATURDAY, October 22nd

, 8pm MY TIME.. . Or whenever I get around to it.

[PeregrineV]

Night 1 Red panda Night 2 Johog Night 3 Red Panda and I have no idea why I am still alive.

Did anyone get visited those nights?

[Lurconis]

Johog was visoted night 2 buy parama

-drink ohon gr

[Parama]

holy dear god this game is dead

prodvoidd about 8 hours after I'd be prodded if mod were here |||

[Johhog]

I'm back. I was going to say "expect content soon" but frankly I can't see what I would do. Any requests/questions to me?

[Chair]

VOTE: Lurconis

[Zang]

I'll read and try to make a post by tommorow.

[camn]

You all know my opinion. Lurkers ruin games. And lose them for the town.

Johhog

- 3

( Parama Zang PeregrineV )

PeregrineV

- 1

( Johhog )

Lurconis

- 1

( Chair )

Parama

- 1

( RedPanda )

NOT VOTING:

( Lurconis )

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.
Deadline is

SATURDAY, October 22nd

, 8pm MY TIME.. . Or whenever I get around to it.

[Parama]

I can't even do anything to make this go faster this time
Guys what are you doing.
Nobody cares. We're all doomed.