NY 142: Rolling in the Deep, WAIT WAT? PARTY OVER?!

[Revenus]

Beck, I'm assuming you asked my opinion of Slaandar. I think he's town. His logic has been pretty sound so far. He's at least given the appearance of scumhunting.

[theamatuer]

Basically, both people used rather weak reasons to attack the other, which is kinda acceptable considering theres only 7 pages, but the fact that this happens at 7 pages is kinda suspicious.
A possibility is that beck attacked Pine, who is scum, for weak reasoning, and that Pine reacted and starting attacking Beck in retaliation.
Of course, there really isn't anything I can see that currently puts one on top of the other in terms of scumminess, so I'll just

fos: beck and Pine

I'll probably change one to a vote when a majority appears on one or if one turns scummier than the other.
pedit: just saying, but considering curfews, I wont be active at all on weekdays. I could probably crank out a few posts, but It'll have to take the weekends to start posting as much as i want to.
ppedit: wth. invalid form

[Revenus]

amatuer, if you'll notice, Pine wasn't really attacking Beck for any reason except out of personal dislike, and it appears that Beck is an ultra aggresive player who will read into any sort of situation as potentially scummy, so there you have it.

[Beck]

amatuer, if you'll notice, Pine wasn't really attacking Beck for any reason except out of personal dislike, and it appears that Beck is an ultra aggresive player who will read into any sort of situation as potentially scummy, so there you have it.

You hit the Nail on the head.

@ Amateur, you don't see anything wrong with pine calling the case on zde as weak and goes on to vote me for personal reasons, but later says zde was suspicious for in game reasons?

If its acceptable to you, please explain How is this beneficial to helping us catch scum ?

[Revenus]

Beck, I really feel you should be focusing your efforts on some of the more inactive players since I feel your style is good for pressuring people, but the bad effect of that is when you pressure people I believe to be town; it doesn't really accomplish anything and is more of a distraction.

[theamatuer]

Almost all of Slandaar's scumhunting consists of questions.
It may not be much, but questions usually require someone to answer them in order to be counted.
So questions themselves themselves can subconciously lead people to a direction he wants, and they would assume that they thought of it themselves.
In other words, Im thinking that Slandaar is trying to lead us without people actually realizing it.
I can't tell what motive there is though.
pedit: well yeah.
Beck is that kind of person, but then his target, instead of trying to defend himself, primarily counterattacks Beck.
And apparently its Pine who attacked Beck first for his vote on zdenek for a reason unrelated to the game.
ppedit: yeah thats what I meant.
and I agree with Rev. Flakers are really annoying, but I'd give them till the Pm-prod till I start pointing them out.

[Beck]

It's hard to pressure inactive people because they don't have anything to attack. Attacking based on not posting anything isn't enough IMO.

But humor me, How anyone can have a town read on pine? please tell me why you have a town read on him.

[Revenus]

He's had thoughts that are very similair to mine that I haven't bothered posting because he posted them first. Because of that, I think he's town as well. It's at least good enough for me that I don't want him lynched d1.

[Beck]

I still want pine to respond to my request, but I think bvoight was on to something.

vote: Funkybike

[theamatuer]

So funnybike iso:
1. RVS
2. unvote zdenek
3. Bandwagon vote


yeah pretty much

unvote
vote: funky

better than zdenek at the very least.

[Beck]

His rvs was on DP, after others had also voted DP

So 2 bandwagon votes

[Primate]

Hi.

I don't really have a good reason for not posting in here yet.

Will catch up over the next few hours.

[Shattered Viewpoint]

Before you call my case bullshit, try making one yourself, until than you have no right to criticize my case.

Have a seat, get comfortable. Allow me to tell you a little tiny story.

Once upon a time, there was a game, This game was called Mafia. It involved an informed minority and an uninformed majority. The way you play this game doesn't really differ much -- on the surface -- regardless of which side you happen to be on.

Everyone is trying to catch scum. (Hush, now, even the scum are trying to

appear

to be catching scum.)

The Mafia, while trying to appear town and catching the scum, may (or may not) make some bullshit arguments.

It is while deconstructing these bullshit arguments that we, as Town, are able to narrow down the possibilities of who is scum and who is not.

Your case is bullshit. Therefore, you're either scum or a fucking idiot.


One scum found!

UNVOTE: beck

I've actually liked what Beck has had to say thus far.

Looky there!

Two

scum found!


Oh, and Beck? Here's some further proof of your scumminess/moronity:

@ sorg, I still stand by it

PL in general, bad play

PL of DK in general, the best thing town can do for themselves 100% of the time.

I don't get it. Is this opposite day or something?

I'm obvtown, why are you voting for me?

THIRD

scum found! I think I just came.

IM OBV TOWN

This is my read on beck

FOURTH---

no, wait. Slandaar's just dumb.

We also have a shut load of people who need to post, and others who need to post content and not nonsensical horseshit (shattered this means you)

Blow me, scumboy.

And funkybike isn't scum, just newbtown Lurker McLurkyman.

[DavidParker]

Rev scum - agree
Zelink scum - probably not, hes just like this
Beck scum - Meh seems kinda just like a bit of an eedjit. Maybe scum.
Slandaar scum or dumb - i think scum.

[Beck]

My cases arent crap, yours absolutely is.

And you say I'm either scum or an idiot, I'm neither so I must be..

A ROCKSTAR

I'll put the same thing on you that I put on pine, explain why my 2 cases are wrong or SHUT THE FUCK UP

[Revenus]

Rofl, yeah, you found 4 scum when almost half the game has barely posted, you are a mafia god.

And DavidParker, why are either me or Slandaar scum.

[iamausername]

For example, you guys are all trying to scumhunt to various degrees. Whereas people like iamausername have posted merely fluff like this

Post Post #15 (isolation #1) » Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:37 pm
ZeL1nk, how am I going to tell the difference between you and Zdenek?

Zdenek, same question.

Funny that you single out that post in particular, considering this:

Also, we have like three people whose usernames start with "thea" so I'd like to establish "nicknames" for each person early on instead of refering to a name that could be construed as any one of 3 players.

I realise that you have posted other things and I haven't, but you're still implicitly admitting to posting something you think of as fluff, no?

P.S. ThAdmiral is ThAd. Problem solved.

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The following are more likely town than the average player:

Pine
Beck
Sky
pops
Slandaar
DavidParker

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One of beck/pine is probably scum. Of course, considering Beck's record, he's probably caught another townie again >.>
Also David? You'd probably find a lot of similarities with rev.

This post is the scummiest post in the game.

Basically, both people used rather weak reasons to attack the other, which is kinda acceptable considering theres only 7 pages, but the fact that this happens at 7 pages is kinda suspicious.
A possibility is that beck attacked Pine, who is scum, for weak reasoning, and that Pine reacted and starting attacking Beck in retaliation.
Of course, there really isn't anything I can see that currently puts one on top of the other in terms of scumminess, so I'll just

fos: beck and Pine

I'll probably change one to a vote when a majority appears on one or if one turns scummier than the other.
pedit: just saying, but considering curfews, I wont be active at all on weekdays. I could probably crank out a few posts, but It'll have to take the weekends to start posting as much as i want to.
ppedit: wth. invalid form

Wait, no, it's this one.

UNVOTE: DavidParker
VOTE: theamateur

[Beck]

I'm good and pissed now, if pine and crackhead viewpoint don't explain why both of my cases are wrong (and actually can explain the town motivation behind their play) I'll push on these 2 mofos for the remainder of the game

[Beck]

Saying it's crap or bullshit or some other non logical response isn't going to fly with me

[Revenus]

Beck; that's dumb. Do you think that it makes them scum? If you're pushing it because the extension of them thinking your cases are wrong makes them scum, that's fine, but if you're going to attack them not because you think they're scum, but that you think they are simply attacking you, that is completely asinine, and therefore you are a detriment to the game. If you're going to just be straight up anti town, then I'm going to be voting you.

[Revenus]

And iam, coming in and going "well I haven't posted anything but here is a post that I think you have fluffed" isn't really doing anything and you should be posting actual game content. I don't mind votes on theam because theys how that people find him scummy, but last game he was very scummy and stupid and turned out to be town so he's one of those players where even if he is scum at the end, it'l be easy for town to tell if he is. There are other options IMO.

And DavidParker, your whole reasoning for voting me was being "noncommittal" yet I voted zel right after making that post; how is that not commital? Don't be stupid.

[Beck]

Beck; that's dumb. Do you think that it makes them scum? If you're pushing it because the extension of them thinking your cases are wrong makes them scum, that's fine, but if you're going to attack them not because you think they're scum, but that you think they are simply attacking you, that is completely asinine, and therefore you are a detriment to the game. If you're going to just be straight up anti town, then I'm going to be voting you.

Anyone who cant use logic and words to demonstrate why my case is wrong, and calls me scum because of it, is either scum or a fucking vi who needs to die

Crackhead says im scum because my cases are bullshit or crap or whatever word he used. He doesn't bother to take the time to explain why they are wrong. I've dealt with this type of attitude before and got lynched day 1, by parama who was scum. He acted like gods gift to scum hunting and tried to make me look like an idiot.

If I'm wrong with my cases, tell me I'm wrong

But to say im auto scum cause I made bad cases (especially when they can't verbalize why it's wrong) is scum pushing a mislynch.

Crackhead has done nothing this game and now has claimed to catch all the scum?

HORSESHIT

[Beck]

Oh, almost forgot

vote: shattered aka crackhead

Arrogance like yours is unfucking necessary.

[Revenus]

smh.

[Beck]

Once I'm over my hissy fit, 176[/b] will be why I vote theAmateur. I'll explain that when I vote, but for now, until crack and pine appeaseme, they need my vote. If only I could vote 2 people