Open 347: White Flag Mafia (Game Over)
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Okay, so... We're lynching kondi. You don't need to think too hard about it.
My experience with kondi!town is seeing him pop up after or just before he is prodded to post a defensive one liner and/or a vote for the biggest wagon. Reads? Nope. Content? Nope. This is not kondi!town.
Given that kondi is scum I find Equinox's jump off the wagon at L-1 with no reasoning suspicious. Care to explain?-
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In post 106, fatlikepig wrote:Also, policy lynching Kondi is probably a bad idea since we're at mylo tomorrow if he's town.
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i got a feeling and the feeling's new
now its a funny thing and it concerns you
it may seem like a hurry but its overdue
you see
i know we're only at our second date
but this time something tells me that i cannot wait
i'm not so good with words so let me tell it straight
FoS ScreamingHawk
bold tags make it preety-
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In post 239, fatlikepig wrote:There's plenty of reasons why I think scum may be inclined to not answer questions, either because they can't, because their answers will be scummier than not answering, or because they think they can get away with ignoring minor questions.
In theory, these are all excellent reasons for scum not answering questions.
In reality, I think you'll find that scum are too afraid to intentionally, consistently dodge questions.
So your word choice in 'Stop dodging my questions, SH.' is questionable because you imply that he is in fact dodging them when that may not be the case.
In post 239, fatlikepig wrote:And why don't you post which posts of mine you think of scummy instead of pretending that "choice of word" actually means anything in the context of my post?
This is the post in question:
In post 140, fatlikepig wrote:Actually, never mind.
VOTE: Cross_Pollination
Minimal contribution, early posts reek of scum.
Minimal contribution is not necessarily a scumtell, and I think you're trying to make up for it -- and the fact that you're not going into why his early posts are so scummy (which is especially hypocritical considering what we're discussing right now; the fact that you explained later changes nothing) -- by using exaggerated language.
Other than that, the large majority of your posting is fluffy or defensive, and your cases are flimsy. I can't elaborate now, though.-
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Equinox, tell me why you jumped off the kondi wagon.
Which reminds me, reads.
Equinox (null; slight lean scum)
Amrun (ditto Equinox)
SleepyKrew (town)
Nobody Special (null)
bvoigt (null)
DonJosh (null; slight lean scum)
Fruit Basket (leaning town maybe perhaps)
trekker (ditto Fruit)
fatlikepig (null; slight lean scum)
ScreamingHawk (leaning scum)
Cross_Pollination (null; slight lean scum)
kondi2424 (null; slight lean town)
So yeah too many scum/null reads
If you guys could kindly start being more obvtown that would be nice-
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In post 369, SleepyKrew wrote:How do people still think SH and CP are town?
I get this kind of premonition whenever I think about them being scum. It's kind of like when you're just casually browsing the game forums and you click on a game thread just to see how many mislynches the town has made or whether any interesting power roles have flipped or whether anyone's been modkilled and you look at the list of dead players and you see, like, the name of some derpy player lynched D1 like Maruchan or glowball and they're town and you think to yourself that they were probably lynched because they were derping around, not because they were actually particularly scummy.-
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In post 376, SleepyKrew wrote:Quil, they aren't just derping around, they've both made blatant contradictions.
Do you know the feeling I'm talking about?-
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In post 379, trekker wrote:In post 375, fatlikepig wrote:Trekker, case on SK please?
ill respond when your avatar isn't my little pony, fyi.
so much this-
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In post 377, Quilford wrote:In post 376, SleepyKrew wrote:Quil, they aren't just derping around, they've both made blatant contradictions.
Do you know the feeling I'm talking about?
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In post 506, fatlikepig wrote:Semi V-LA from 2nd November - 10th due to exams.
Quill, thoughts on Kondi? Is he playing to his town meta?
No.
In post 508, Fruit Basket wrote:We should be!
No.
You know how DonJosh is getting by without any real cross-examination, just faint murmurs of disapproval? That's what scum do to fellow scum when there's a town lynch nearby!
In post 510, ScreamingHawk wrote:It would take a good explanation before I believed any claim at this point.
Scum.
In post 511, Fruit Basket wrote:ScreamingHawk is literally confirmed town now.
No.
In post 521, fatlikepig wrote:VOTE: NS
Dodgy reasoning abounds.
SH not conftown by any means. dj probably still scum, CP probably too.
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In post 554, Fruit Basket wrote:In post 487, Quilford wrote:V/LA due to impending exams. Should be able to post enough to avoid replacement, but desperately looking for someone to hydra with me here nonetheless. Let me know if you know someone suitable!
you need someone to hydra with you but signed up for a new game?
I always feel guilty about not confirming a pre-in.
Besides, it doesn't look like it'll start until after my exams so.-
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In post 593, Equinox wrote:Quilford, you seem to believe that kondi2424 isn't playing to his town meta; why did you have kondi2424 as a "slight lean town" read earlier? What changed between posts 243 and 525?
SleepyKrew provided evidence to the contrary.-
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It's quite relevant that all these bad games have been happening so recently.
Twisted my play in Campaign Mafia is also quite reminiscent of here.
The only place I can think of that we've played other than that is Nomination, where I replaced in to a town slot.
Tell me otherwise? And look at the game.-
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You just quoted two games in which I was town and playing exactly as I am now, especially Neruzian.
In post 662, Twistedspoon wrote:how can you not remember these. You shouldn't be using meta as a defence anyways if you're town. Pointing out your own meta is a moot defence
Check it: I never self meta as scum. That's right, I'm now confirmed town.
In post 662, Twistedspoon wrote:anyways my point is I feel you're coasting
duhhh
that's what I do when I'm town: check the two games you mentioned above
In post 662, Twistedspoon wrote:and I'm not prepared to vote anyone else at the moment except for donjosh
Do you think DonJosh and I are of the same alignment?
In post 662, Twistedspoon wrote:ninja: you at least try as town. I don't even get the impression that you're trying to be logical from half of your posts (posts 98, 141, 366 and 641 come to mind)
Like I said: exams.-
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In post 748, Twistedspoon wrote:one last point I'd like to make
some of you may have noticed quilford's odd obsession with being conf. town.
I have seen this in one game prior. In neither this or that game did I see much reason to view him as such but he did turn out to be town if that's anything to go by
evidence:
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p3336752
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p3334077
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p3338583
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p3338477
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p3338214
obsession?
no, good sir
I am merely trying to educate the masses-
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In post 793, Twistedspoon wrote:In post 792, Quilford wrote:NS had explained that he was town. Pretty sure FLP just made a wording mistake.
yeah, but even NS admits he didn't explain it to the extent that it should be considered truth by the way he pointed out the slip :p
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Fruit Basket wrote:In post 831, fatlikepig wrote:In post 818, Quilford wrote:VOTE: jerobbo
The people who are finding me scummy are scummy themselves. I'm confirmed town.
lawl, "DON'T TRY TO MAKE A CASE ON ME OR YOU'RE SCUM"
mmhmm. And why are you confirmed town, again?
do you find his statement scummy or just annoying? idk why you'd find it scummy tbh
i mean his self meta is valid, and i actually agree w/ it. the only time i've seen him do :stuff: as town was in that ooba game where he was unlucky not to get the uk/chamber hydra deaded. also my other head is back :D so he'll be posting when he catches up fully. he has exp. with quilford too and agrees fwiw
(p sure fat is kinda confirmed for the numbers mix-up and screaminghawk for not getting the set-up but anyway)
Hi, Faraday?
Believe it or not I am actually capable of doing :stuff: as town, I'm just not doing it right now because I'm really lazy and have exams to study for. Yes that sounds arrogant, conceited, whatever, but I should actually start being decent on Thursday if you can wait that long.
Also oh man chamber was so scum in that game.-
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I'm 99% sure I know you and if I looked around MD quickly I would know who you are.-
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In post 847, Twistedspoon wrote:@quilf: if you're just going to use the exam excuse to not offer anything then why not replace out?
because they end in two days? gosh, pay attention
something's interesting about jer's reads, can't quite put my finger on them but they seem like a mixture of annoying scummy reads and things that I notice a lot when I'm giving readsas town(not sure) like thisjerobbo wrote:SleepyKrew actually posted a lot [...] but I really didn't notice [...] on my first read through. Not sure why this is? Low content/high volume posting?
andjerobbo wrote:I have this little feeling that Fruit Basket and Amrun may be staging their little discussions and voting for each other here as scum partners. No real evidence to back that up, just a feeling I get from their back and forth.
But I'm pretty sure that these kind of things are noticed both by town and scum, moreover when I'm giving reads as scum I tend to rely a lot on recent posts as reasoning -- especially as a replacement -- because I can understand their context better. Additionally, my reads as scum are usually one liners and I tend to leave my conclusions open. I can see both of these in jerobbo's reads list so I'm going to stay with my current vote.
fatlikepig wrote:Okay, [J] NK is still really weird no matter how I look at it. From what I can tell, his scumlist was bascially FB/bvoigt/Amrun by the end of the day, and he was going to look at Quil/DJ on top of that. Also had SH as a null-scum read, and was also going to reread him today.
Since there was no other reason to kill him, I'm guessing that some of the scum felt threatened by him and decided to off him on the chance that they would be exposed. I feel like that's a reaction that's more likely to come from newbscum though.
Pfft. [J] is obviously a confusion kill.-
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