The Aftermath - Victors Announced

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Vote Reck

What is the SDC thing or whatever it was that you guys were talking about in the queu?

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Reck, I've been away a little while. Wanna fill me in?

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So who in this game is part of this SDC clan?

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DGB, why no vote on Elli?

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unvote, vote spring

Kuribo is scum too.

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unvote, vote kuribo

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We really haven't lynched kuribo yet? Why?

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If Fate is scum, so is at least one other non-Reck SDC.

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Can everyone really not even see that kuribo isn't even trying to scumhunt?

Elli, zd gave his reads, weighed in on wagons, and chose one to vote on. How is that scummy?

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Kuribo I don't care who elvis is voting right now. I'm voting you because you are scummy as fuck.

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Is there even a case on me? Literally 90% of kuribo's posting is either fluff or "omg I'm not scum weeeeeeeee". I think my strongest reads are pretty clear. His, not so much.

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It's not gut saying you are scum.

Also:

unvote, vote spring

Kuribo is scum too.

Kuribo (1): Malthusis

WAGON HITCH WHAT?

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Kuribo, because Spring was scummy first but then you were scummy more so I voted you.

Elli, can you tell me what was supposed to have been scummy about ZD's post?

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Chunky, kuribo's scumminess should be obvious. It's almost like he WANTS to be lynched. He is posting random nonsense and getting overdefensive rather than pursuing a suspect.

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Spy, spring was the "side with kuribo" comment. It's too much of a sideline mentality for town. I know there are town sheep, but that's different. Spring was just kinda like "yup, this is the side I'm taking. K, don't look at me anymore.

Kuribo is just obvscum. He isn't pursuing any suspects and is just wasting space with his posts. Anyone who calls him scum is just an asshole in his eyes.

Kuribo is scummier because his scumminess is clear in every post where Spring was just the one thing and she hasn't really been active enough to get more of a read from.

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Shattered, how does kuribo's play compare to the game that has you biased?

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Grimm, elli didn't say that Zd's post was scummy. He apparently thinks that I specifically should find it scummy.

Spy, no. Again, with smaller(or maybe just less) words. Spring is scum for a sideline mentality. Kuribo is scum for using this as a "look at my rage" thread rather than a mafia game.

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Chunky, it looks like we can get used to that with this group.

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Wrong. The scumbuddies are kuribo, spring, spy, and fate.

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Chunky, I always do that with my first vote. Usually, it gets people asking and brings more attention to the case. Here, it just blends in. But you'll see I explained as soon as I was asked.

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I don't joke/random vote. Second vote in this specific game was early enough that I treated it like a first. I haven't made a third vote, but when I do, reasons will probably either be obvious or stated in that post or both.

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Fate, I actually love being scum. I drew town for this game though.

Kuribo, I answered his question. What's the problem?

Chunk, my bad. Forgot I voted reck to make sure he noticed my question.

Guys, hindu is now scum for dropping the "I'm gonna win" tell. Probably self aligned, but still scum.

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Elvis, town isn't as focused on "winning" on Day 1. And the way he specifically said "I" before it. He has his own interests in mind which sounds self aligned to me.

Chunk, i'd prefer to know why people are voting the way they are obviously. But if it's just the way someone plays, especially when it is a large group of people, it means two things. One, it's not a tell. Two, we aren't going to get them to change their ways so it's pointless to make a scene over it.

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Reck, you said yourself that odds say one SDC is scum. Which do you think is bussing and why? If you can't come up with an answer, there's probably a scum on there going "weeeeeeeee wagon".

Pine, if you see a self aligned tell, as town, do you seriously just ignore it? I didn't vote the guy for a reason. I'd rather lynch mafia than self-aligned scum.

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Also, chunkykev really should quit fucking around and put a vote down somewhere.

My Milked Eek needs to post and put a vote down.

Nobody should ever be "Not Voting" at any time on Day 1.

Pine, if that's what hindu meant then my bad. And again, if i'd been "hunting" self aligned players, I probably would have voted him at that time.

Reck, you forgot the "why" part of that question.

Khan, forgot about that.

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Kuribo, you can't forget a setup you don't know. What I forgot was one thing in the rules and all role PMs that I haven't looked at since just before I confirmed. And of course you vote mafiatells over SKtells. Mafia is the biggest threat early in any non-cult game Day 1.

before anyone hammers, let me do a big post with reads on everyone. I need to get to a computer though (I've been playing this entire game from my phone). I'll try to do that at some point today.

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Chunk, it'll be pretty detailed, which is why I need a computer for it.

Kuribo, no, I don't know that. No one really posted reasons as the wagon was foriming.

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Kuribo, as I said before you are scum for pointlessly raging. Spring is scum for the sideline mentality (where is she now). Fate is scum because of his pushing that all of the SDC must be town, which means another SDC is scum, and Spy seems most connected to Fate.

By the way, my post will be up in no more than four hours. I'm going to barnes and noble to use my girlfriend's laptop, so I can do everything from there. After that though, consider me away until later on tonight. We have plans that will probably keep me and my phone seperated for most of the day.

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Guys, I'm not done with this yet, but it's taking longer than I expected and like I said I have plans. Instead of stashing it away in my notes somewhere and saying "I'll finish, I promise. But you can't see it yet", I'll post the unfinished version. I'm not done with Kuribo yet, so that's only a partial, but everything else before that is done.

Ok, before this writing, my opinion is that the scum team includes Kuribo, Spring, Fate, and Spy. This will probably change as I look more in depth.

Chunk- Before I look at anything, he looks pretty town. He seems to be questioning people, asking questions, and trying to get others to do the same (although as I said, nobody is going to change their playstyle because you go "OMG UR NOT PROTOWN THIS WAY CHANGE UR WAYS"). Ok, so reading his ISO, he jokevoted Reck and removed it immediately. Fine. But then he says he wants to follow Reck. This is probably a poor strategy, but if my memory serves me correctly, he didn't follow through with this. What it does tell me though is that he and Reck are probably not scum together. I don't think he would blatantly latch on to a scumbud like that. Next, he calls me out for reasons that he actually seems to believe, something that few of the people voting me have done. He also calls Lowell on the same thing, so he's not just looking at an easy vote. Calls Khan and Kuribo on it too. Calls Kuribo "self proclaimed as no use Day 1". Yeah, I don't need to see more. The guy is town.

DGB- This one is a bit harder for me. There are people who see her as scummy all the time and people who know that meta and see her as town for matching it. Say what you want, when she is town, her reads are dead on. But all of the things she attacks people for, she is usually guilty of as scum herself. Right now, I don't have much of a read on her yet. So lemme take a look. "locks in" a town read on Socio. Says Reck is bussing and will fill me in in the QT on SDC. Calls Elli scum. Ok, at this point, I think she is throwing things out there for reactions so she can get better reads. This seems clear when she votes Reck and says it's because his wagon is too small. Calls Fate scum for a forced tone. More reads, mostly scum reads. Has to be for reaction. Then she does her list. Four town and everyone else is an "unwashed mess", "scum", or "lurkerscum". I think she wants to see how people react to suspicion, which seems more true when you look at the lurker category's name of "lurkerscum". Seems like a town motivated list. She's town, but not as town as Chunk.

Elli: First impression is that he is very reserved. He will post reads, which are usually pretty good. But he's one who rarely elaborates, even when asked. As scum, I feel like he probably isn't lynched often enough because "oh, that's just Elli". But he hasn't really popped out as one of the players in this game. I'd like the people who know him better than me to explain his lurkerness and what it means normally. So, he tries to start some controversy by voting no lynch and proposing five policy lynches. Obviously looking for something to start discussion. Prods Fate, votes Pine. Quote's ZD's post, votes me. Asks DGB if she's scum. Says I should have found Zd's post scummy as town, but never said why and has kind of clung to that all day. Asks Spy what is wrong with him a few times. Yeah, he's blending in nicely. I think Elli is scum.

Elvis- She seems town to me so far. Let's get to the ISO read though. Votes Spy for being a ginger. Calls Pine scum for protecting him. And then I think her first real read is Kuriboscum. More Kuribo stuff and then a vote. Continues to push Kuriboscum. Calls Chunky scum. Khan and Elli town. Explains town reads when asked. More Kuribo sucks stuff. Yeah, she finds a scum suspect, votes him, keeps posting stuff about him, and looks at some other people too. Gotta say town here.

Fate- I think he is pressing the caps lock button so people listen to him, but isn't so worried about finding scums. He just wants to control the game. The constant profanity has the same effect as the caps IMO. Calls Socio and Spy town. Votes Khan. Votes me (why?). Gets pissed at Reck for the "SDC has scum" thing. This is why I think Fate+1SDC are scum. Tells DGB he's scum and is bussing. This is interesting because no scum in their right mind would say that, right? Uh, wrong. Fate is the kind of person who would. Just for the style points and ego stroke. And maybe to try to throw DGB off a little. Asks Kuribo for reads (coaching?). Says his town read on Kuribo is weakening (shit, time to distance). And now he brings up the bussing thing regarding Kuribo. Not once. But twice. Yeah, I bet he is. Oh, wait. No, Kuribo said his play is because he didn't replace in. Must be town now (whew, no need to bus). Calls Hindu/Shattered/me/everylurker scum team. Replaces lurkers with Rhinox. Calls DGB scum for thinking Chunk, Reck, and Kuribo are scum (DGB called a lot more scums than that). The only one he gives a reason on is Kuribo. Talk about a strong connection. These two are buddies, I'm tellin ya. Let me ask those who knows Fate something. HOW OFTEN DOES HE VOTE SOMEONE AND THEN BARELY PUSH THEM?

Grimm- Seems to be honestly attempting how to find scum in such a large game. Strong town tell for me. Even from his confirmation post, he's upset that he's going to be confused. Votes Kuribo for Khan's reasons. Catches Fate's comment about bussing Kuribo, but then says Fate isn't necessarily scum even though he pinged his scumdar. Grimm, learn to trust those pings. They are right a lot of the time. Calls Chunk scum and FoS's Elli for not explaining his scum read when asked. Yeah, this guy's pretty town.

Hind - I've gone pretty back and forth on him. This ISO will be good for me. Talks about how well he reads the SDC players and admits he thought about the odds pointing to one of them being scum. Votes me because it's a "decent wagon" in the "RVS". Calls DGB and Reck town. And Pine. And Socio. Asks for reads from Kuribo. Says me and Kuribo as "clones". Asks Kuribo for reads again, leaves his vote on me, but doesn't ask for reads from me, the supposed "clone". Tells Fate to lay low (huh? I missed this the first time through. Asks when Kuribo started using caps, but nothing about me, who he is voting. Could this guy be scum with Fate and Kuribo? Two more posts on Kuribo, but leaves his vote on me. Offers himself up to SDC. Says for the third time that DGB and Reck are town. I dunno, I think he mostly depends on what Kuribo and Fate flip. If they are scum, he is definitely their buddy. If not, he's probably town.

Khan - A lot of people say he's town, and I tend to agree. So. Joke votes Spy. Explains SDC for me. Asks Reck ab out his "SDC has scum" post. Does his list, votes Kuribo. Explains list to Pine, asks for better reads from Pine. Explains Kuribo vote, admits it's weak because it's early. A lot on Kuribo then switches to reck (huh?). Adds me to his list while removing Fate, Pine, and ZD. Meh, this'll be my weakest town read I think. His reconsideration of Kuribo seems weird, but I think it makes sense. And he seemed to tunnel on Kuribo for a while. Mostly looks fine though.

Kuribo- He's obvscum. This won't change. And I'm for the first time seeing the bees in his confirmation post. Wtf? lol. Didn't show up on my phone.

Town to scum in order:
Grimm
Chunk
Elvis
DGB
Khan
Hind
Elli
Fate

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Shit, that's only about half the players and still looks massive.

The rest can probably be expected by tomorrow. Please don't hammer before I can get it up. I want to get these out there and I want them looked back on later in the game.

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Gah. 5 pages to catch up on and just under an hour before work. Looks like I won't be finishing that reads post until Monday. That's a guaranteed "I'm working on this Monday. If I don't, feel free to hammer" Monday, not a "I'm gonna say Monday so come Tuesday maybe people will forget and I can say Thursday" Monday. Seriously, hold me to it.

Catching up on last five pages now.

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Fate's unvote of me, while I'd appreciate being able to live another day, looks like lazy scum taking the easy way out. I think he was looking for an easy lynch and thought "oh shit, big post, who else is easy" and switched to Rhinox who has been criticized for low content. Spy's reaction, on the other hand, looks like the other thing scum can do. Discredit and say "OMG DESPERATE SCUM LYNCH HIM". I think he's legit pissed at his buddy (Fate) unvoting too. Reck's immediate reaction to my post looks town to me. He actually read it and looked for motivation rather than conclusions. That looks like genuine scumhunting to me.

Chunk, you quoted what I'm talking about. No, it's not a detailed explanation, but it gave me the gist of it which is all I was really looking for. It's a small detail anyway and doesn't really effect my read on him too much.

Spy, my point on Spring had nothing to do with my read on Kuribo. She could have picked the other side (Was it Khan? Reck? I don't remember) and I'd see the same thing. It's the fact that she didn't post anything original, just said "I pick this side". It's like if in the last Super Bowl, Aaron Rodgers went out for the coin toss and said "I pick the Packers to win" and sat in the stands for the rest of the game. No. You're a player too. Play the game. But some scum play that way where they just try to position themselves to what they think will be the winning side of an argument rather than get in the discussion. Even town sheeping is more "Well, this side says this. This side says that. After thinking this, I pick that". She was more "Hi. I pick Kuribo's side. Bye."

Reck, Khan's point about not caring about drunk posting as scum/town actually seems to have some basis. Can you respond to that? I have a guess at what the reason might be, but I want to make sure I'm right before I come to conclusions. Socio's "out of character" thing however makes no sense. There's a huge difference between causing massive amounts of text and reading everyone else's.

Khan, the only reason to claim is if you are definitely going to be lynched otherwise. I AM NOT CLAIMING UNLESS IT IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. Also, at the time of your post, I was at L-3, not L-1. Less players claiming is better, so why claim if a lynch isn't 95% guaranteed yet?

Pine, your logic makes no sense. Why would scum push a buddy to L-1 and only jump off when a big post comes up. It's all either scum who jumped on the easy lynch and jumped off when it didn't look as easy anymore or town whose opinion changed or was lessened. The other thing is how does your reasoning lead to DGB and Spy being scum?

Spy, the reason for all the stuff you crossed out is that it sets up my thought process. It's better than just posting my conclusions and everyone is like "wait, where'd that come from?". It's also nice to type it all out and have it in front of me when I'm trying to figure everything out later. Also, as I said, the list isn't finished. I'm going through the "Display posts by user" thing alphabetically which is why Kuribo isn't there yet and Grimm is at the top of the list. I need to do the rest on Monday before I can make my full list.

Spring, you finally pop in and THAT is your contribution? Really?

Kuribo, what is your definition of fluff? I thought it was things that have nothing to do with the game like Reck and Socio talking about getting in each other's pants, not ISOs, reads, and reasons for them.

Also,

Unvote, Vote Fate

. More confident here and if he doesn't get a push Day 1, he may never get it and ride to scummy scum scum victory.

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Kuribo, your defense earlier was that your style changed over the years, yet you vote DGB based on how she played "years ago"? The fuck?

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i'd bet kuribo's left nut that DGB is town.

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I hate reading multiple pages from my phone. Makes it so hard to respond to it all.

Ok,

DGB wagon - no good. Needs to go away. Figures that 3 of the 5 votes are people who I think are scum.

Fake daykill- I agree with elvis. If you were happy to see him dead, why not push his lynch? Although I do think he is townn.

Self votes- kuribo/reck its just dumb. Why do it?

What did I miss? I feel like there was more.

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Khan, shattered is the only one on that list I can't make an argument against lynching right now, but even he's far from being my favorite choice.

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I agree that there is no way at all that a daykill would have gotten hindu lynched. I don't see how it would confirm him as town or how it's a scumslip though.

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Fate, what games has DGB claimed early in while wanting rope?

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Spy, I told you the rest of that is coming Monday. I work quite a bit on weekends, so when I didn't finish on Thursday or Friday or whatever it was, I knew it would have to wait. Did you even read my post where I said I'll work on it Monday or I'll gladly hang?

Kuribo,

that post wasn't the rest of my reads. It was me catching up on all the pages I missed.

(Never mind, you corrected this in your next post)

*GASP*. Kuribo just dropped a massive town tell. The "wow, scum have been talking" thing looks legit.

Reck, do you have links to games where Spy has tunneled as scum and where he hasn't as town?

Unvote Fate, Vote Spy

on the off chance a wagon on one of my scum reads actually takes off.

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Well this sucks. My "day off" turned into working all day. I'll get to those reads when I can. I'll understand if people are pissed.

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Chunk, you're right. I thought id have Monday off and ended up working all day. If that's enough reason to lynch me, feel free.

If not, I'm going to be finishing those reads when I can.

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Why are we wagoning town again?

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Chunk, because posting from my phone, it would be a pain in the ass to try and figure it out. I need to get to a computer to finish them. Also was about to suggest what rhinox said. Find a temporary replacement, then come back in a week.

Fate, that whole thing you just said to hindu about how does he know your reads suck and it's some retaliation to you calling him scum. I called you scum and you said my reads suck. Pot meet kettle?

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Uhh. I definitely wasn't voting chunk. I think he's town.

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Grimm, it's more of a general feel in their interactions.

Also, reads tomorrow. First day off work since the first part of them and my girlfriend works all day, so I'll have plenty of time.

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I'll be doing those reads this afternoon just so everyone knows. Just finished career related stuff that you don't care about that took almost 2 hours, then I have something else that will take maybe an hour, then after my girlfriend's lunch break, this game has my mostly undivided attention.

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Chunk, yeah, I plan on doing a brief update on the first part and then the rest will look a lot like the first part did originally.

Also, I've been staring at a computer screen for about three and a half hours now, so reading things is getting hard. Even when I had my own computer, my absolute max was probably about 2 hours. Hopefully after an hour away, it'll be better. I'll get through it all though.

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Ok.

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Chunk - Nothing has changed here. He's still town. Productive mentality. Questioning people and going for progress.

DGB - Still town for the way she was looking for everyone's reactions early on.

Elli - Still blending scum.

Elvis - Still town. She's giving plenty of reads and explaining why she feels the way she does.

Fate - Still scum. Needs rope. Did the "no way Reck don't call SDCs scum" thing early on, which makes me think him and one more SDC are scum. The constant joking admissions to scuminess was another tell. The turnaround on Kuribo looked fake. Didn't really push for the Kuribo lynch while voting him. Doesn't seem Fate-like. And his unvote of me after the first part of my reads was too lazy to be TownFate. He wants an easy lynch.

Grimm - Still town trying to keep up. His last post shows that he is trying. No change in the read here.

Hindu - Kuribo dropping that town tell makes the connection I saw between Kuribo/Hindu/Fate obviously not as strong. Leaning town now on Hindu.

Khan - He looked pretty town when I looked at his ISO before. Other people seemed to think so as well, but I feel like more people are calling him scum lately, so I want to look into his posts since the first time I did it. So there was the part where he told me I was at L-1 and needed to claim, but I wasn't. Seems hypocritical considering he called me out for not remembering something in the rules. Shouldn't he be paying enough attention to know when someone is at L-1 and when they're not? I don't see it as scummy that he didn't realize it. What I have a problem with is that he did this after he seemed to think everyone should remember every detail of the rules. It makes his case on me seem more forced and fake. And it looks like he's back after Kuribo after pushing him, letting up, and being called out for letting up. Actually, no. Looks like I'm wrong. He was defending himself against Kuribo, not attacking him. Posts some reads with reasons. Meh, I don't agree with a lot of what he's saying, but he's definitely pushing hard for what he wants. I think he's scummier than I thought he was before, but still not a top scum read.

Kuribo - I'm not going to waste the time sifting through everything for this. My opinion on him should have been clear throughout the game. He was really scummy, slowly got a little better, them BAM! Dropped that town tell looking back and realizing scum were daytalking. He's probtown.

Lowell - This one is hard for me. He's very non existant. I think we are more likely to find something out about him after we get some flips because people seem to have clear thoughts on him somehow. Let's see. He was confident kublai and myself were scum early on. Reck, Spring, Socio, and Kuribo town. I'd be interested to know why. Most of that is different from my early reads. His vote post on me looks pretty genuine, actually. You know what? When I look closer, Lowell doesn't seem the way I've been picturing him. I thought he was quiet, lurky, kind of inactive, but I had it wrong. He's just concise. Plenty of reads. Plenty of reasons. Just not a lot of words. Lowell is town.

Malth/Sera- Malth didn't do anything except joke vote, say he couldn't keep up, and ask to be replaced. Therefore, I couldn't get a read on him. Sera has two posts saying he has homework and is working on the game. I'd like to see at least partial stuff. Slight scum read just because he claimed to be "working on it" but has provided absolutely nothing. Not one read. Not one vote. Nothing.

MME- Same as Sera without the "working on it" thing. So he just has nothing. Wonderful.

Pine- First impression is similar to Chunk. He seems very direct. Definitely voicing his opinions, questioning suspects. I think he's town. Now the ISO. Did the whole ginger thing early. Found something small on DGB and dropped the ginger thing for real gameplay. Questions Khan about Kuribo. Gives a few scum reads. I'm noticing more about scum reads than town reads, which might be personal policy (don't get town reads NK'd by pointing them out. I've seen it before)Yeah, I'm pretty much seeing what I thought I remembered seeing. Very direct. Clear cut opinions. I like it. He looks town right now and will be easy to analyze later on when we have flips.

Rhinox - My first thought is that he seems quieter than usual. That can easily be explained by the large game though. I lean town, but am definitely interested to see what I'll find when I read up. Kublai vote looks legit. Calls the first 12 pages noise. Seems like he'd be able to pull

something

out of it. At least something more than just Kublai is scum. He's going on about the noise thing too much and I don't like the "I don't fit in" stuff about a dinosaur era and whatever. It looks like excuses to me. You have to adapt. Sees me at L-1 and says the case sucks but I'm not townish. So he's fencesitting. Avoiding the wagon, but leaving options open. Hmm. Wonder why I didn't see this scum earlier.

Shattered- Looks lost. I don't think he's scummy though. First content post is a bunch of reads. But when you look closer it's a lot of stuff that is supposed to develop into reads, not reads themselves. Reads do get a little more solid. Vote moves around some. So he has opinions and they are out there, but I'd like to see more. Slight town read.

Socio - Earlier I feel like he threw reads around, but I can't remember anything recent he's done. Ok, I'm looking at his ISO and pulling nothing out of the first 12 posts or so because of posts like "I'd vote him". His vote was parked on reck for a while and I think it was a joke vote. Has a problem with a lot of town reads on him. Huh? His first mention of me is an unexplained vote. Keeps calling Reck and DGB scum while voting me and saying nothing about it. Then he switches his vote around like five times. I dunno what to think about this one. Seems to be lurker hunting, but also made the comment that we need to lynch those who won't help town and might be scum rather than those who might be scum, but might help if town. It looks like an honest mentality, but could be some kind of weird cover. I think he's town, but he seems sketchy.

Spring - She's escaping attention very well. Did the sideline thing by "siding with kuribo". Voted me cuz it was the cool thing to do (Or maybe because I called her scum). A lot of discrediting on my case on her. And my Fate case (connection?). Votes Kuribo for being vulgar. She keeps popping in with maybe a read or two just to seem like she's not lurking. I don't like it.

Spy - Votes me early on without explaining. Calls my first reads post bad without saying why until realizing saying it's bad didn't work. When he looked at it, he just crossed off a bunch of stuff and said "see, nothing". Switches to Pine and part of his reasoning is Pine's vote on me, who Spy thinks is scum. Huh? Spy is fitting in more than hunting scum. Very basic tell here.

Reck - I still think he is town. He is consistant in his thoughts/reads. He's pushing his thoughts. Wow,my eyes hurt and this ISO isn't helping. A lot of caps and noise. Not gonna sift through for a guy I'm pretty sure is town.

zd- Seemed like Chunk and Pine earlier as far as reads/reasons and what not, but seems to have fallen off the radar. Hmm. Actually, first few posts don't look that way at all. Just seem reads and no reasons behind them. Explains a little more as the game goes on. Votes Elvis and gives a case with it. I don't agree with the case, but it looks genuine. Switches to Khan because he has no support for Elvis. Meh, I think he's town, but not as town as I thought before.

Grimm
Lowell
Chunk
Kuribo

Pine
Elvis
reck
DGB

Hind
ZD
Socio
Shattered

MME
Khan
Sera
Spring

Rhinox
Elli
Fate
Spy

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I'll be doing those reads this afternoon just so everyone knows. Just finished career related stuff that you don't care about that took almost 2 hours, then I have something else that will take maybe an hour, then after my girlfriend's lunch break, this game has my mostly undivided attention.

So you've been doing stuff for 2 hours that we don't care about (so true :p) but that's done so don't see the point in telling us. You still have stuff to do for about an hour, then your girlfriend's lunch break then this game has your mostly undivided attention.

Considering you posted this over 5 hours ago now, that is one hell of a lunch break! Going to my bed now (after midnight here) and curious if they'll be anything when I get up in the morning.

Lunch break was from 5PM to 6PM. It's 7:42PM and I just finished. Not sure why this is important.

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Spy I hope you aren't seriously trying to imply fate wouldn't bus by pulling up that vote count.

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Spy because you were the hot wagon starting up and he busses to stay consistent with town play.

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Hop, what about my reads don't you like?

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SA wanna claim? Because you are technically lynched already.

Hop, read it again after I flip so you are looking at the actual content rather than motivations. I thought it would be better if you could see my thought proccess. List is towniest to scummiest. Colors just made it look better.

Can someone PLEASE promise to look at that tomorrow with my flip in mind?

This site doesn't listen to people after death enough. I'm not saying you have to agree with everything but at least consider it KNOWING that it was genuine reads. That's why I posted it. I want to help this town and couldn't do it while alive, so while I'm dead, someone look at what I had to say. I consolidated it into one post so it shouldn't be hard.

And with that, I'm out. I realize this is probably my last post of the game and I think I've made it clear what I want.