NY 142: Rolling in the Deep, WAIT WAT? PARTY OVER?!


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Post Post #525 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:23 am

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No, really, it's bad play. Even if mafia has only a 10% chance of knowing your alignment, it's info they didn't need to have.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #526 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:27 am

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Mafia already knows if he isn't one of them, unless there are 2 mafia.

If he is VT soft claiming vig, and mafia kills him. He has helped town by saving a PR

If the vig kills him, he just did something stupid.

I don't think he is serious, if he is the vig, I hope he kills me and when I flip town he admits how stupid he was to shoot me. There are much better vig kill targets IMO.
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Post Post #527 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:30 am

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role, not alignment.
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"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #528 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:30 am

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pops is right, it just gives the mafia more information to help make the right decision, there is no need to give said information out which could help them.

you may not think its much but if someone has a good read on rev they will be able to make a good decision about whether hes vig or not.
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Post Post #529 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:32 am

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If he is a vig, he needs to go diaf.
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Post Post #530 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:34 am

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Rev did make me lol with Pew pew
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Post Post #531 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:39 am

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In post 523, Revenus wrote:Fencing's gay.

:cry: :cry: :cry:

Image

Seriously though, get an avatar. It makes it a lot easier to pick out your posts when skimming through to find quotes and points you've made, and there's a significant subconscious benefit to having an image to immediately associate with a name.

And Pops, you just can't resist the opportunity to provide a bunch of off-topic content when the chance presents itself, can you? Apply that level of commitment to the actual game, and I wouldn't be as suspicious of you.

Claiming or softclaiming PRs of any kind on D1 (not counting L-1 "claim or die" moments) is a bad idea in most cases, as it unnecessarily gives scum information and insight into your thought processes. A Townie fakeclaiming and even fakesoftclaiming can force a real PR into counterclaiming for a supposed scum kill, resulting in an otherwise innocent Townie being mislynched. Fakeclaiming vig is especially stupid, as it will very often lead to the REAL vig saying "Aha! That's either scum or the SK setting up a vig fakeclaim. I'll shoot him to find out." And we again have a dead fakeclaimer, with the added benefit of a wasted friendly fire shot.

^See? That's all that needed to be said. It isn't a discussion that will eat up half a day and a dozen posts, it's an experienced player taking
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PE: Four more fucking fluff posts about this since I started typing? Shut the fuck up about it, people.
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Post Post #532 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:45 am

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I dunno, I dont think we have quite covered the subject fully yet...
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Post Post #533 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:48 am

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It's hard to read people because they are fluffposting, so I fluffpost in my boredom.

It's a vicious cycle.
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Post Post #534 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:51 am

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Break the cycle. Call them out on their fluff posting. Change the subject. Educate them and finish the conversation. You've got too much experience to simply get a pass on this one.
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Post Post #535 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:55 am

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Maybe I've been in GD since 2008.

I did answer the list thingy you asked everyone to do. Thamatuer is my strongest read. He's pretty lynchworthy. I mean, I'm generally happy D1 if I get a lynch as good as him so I don't feel like turning on the searchlights.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #536 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:09 am

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In post 187, Shattered Viewpoint wrote:
In post 109, Beck wrote:Before you call my case bullshit, try making one yourself, until than you have no right to criticize my case.


Have a seat, get comfortable. Allow me to tell you a little tiny story.

Once upon a time, there was a game, This game was called Mafia. It involved an informed minority and an uninformed majority. The way you play this game doesn't really differ much -- on the surface -- regardless of which side you happen to be on.

Everyone is trying to catch scum. (Hush, now, even the scum are trying to
appear
to be catching scum.)

The Mafia, while trying to appear town and catching the scum, may (or may not) make some bullshit arguments.

It is while deconstructing these bullshit arguments that we, as Town, are able to narrow down the possibilities of who is scum and who is not.

Your case is bullshit. Therefore, you're either scum or a fucking idiot.



One scum found!

In post 114, Revenus wrote:UNVOTE: beck

I've actually liked what Beck has had to say thus far.


Looky there!
Two
scum found![/b]


Oh, and Beck? Here's some further proof of your scumminess/moronity:
In post 112, Beck wrote:@ sorg, I still stand by it

PL in general, bad play

PL of DK in general, the best thing town can do for themselves 100% of the time.


In post 138, ZeL1nK wrote:I don't get it. Is this opposite day or something?

I'm obvtown, why are you voting for me?


THIRD
scum found! I think I just came.


In post 161, Slandaar wrote:
In post 158, Beck wrote:
IM OBV TOWN

This is my read on beck



FOURTH---
no, wait. Slandaar's just dumb.


In post 162, Beck wrote:We also have a shut load of people who need to post, and others who need to post content and not nonsensical horseshit (shattered this means you)


Blow me, scumboy.

And funkybike isn't scum, just newbtown Lurker McLurkyman.

Bolding mine. There's a startling lack of internal consistency in Shattered's (flawed) scumhunting method. Looks like "ease of targetting" variability from where I'm sitting. He sticks to VI hunting because it's easier. Slandaar doesn"t derppost.

His enthusiasm is hard to read since he's so wild, but I think the witchhunt may have been feigned. The contentless posts attacking zelink and defending funkybike are kind of sketchy from a pairing perspective as well, don't forget to mention a scumpartner etc.


I'm analyzing ISOs until Pine forgives me for ENJOYING MYSELF IN AN INTERNET GAME.
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"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #537 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:10 am

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The second bolding should extend to cover Shattered's response there. Selective buddyhunting.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #538 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:17 am

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I play with avatars disabled so whatever
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Post Post #539 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:20 am

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And I liked that post pops. Of course, its not very hard to analyze shattered's post like that and find flaws since the entire post is flawed but yea.
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Post Post #540 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:24 am

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vote: shattered
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Post Post #541 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:25 am

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Until he posts useful content, I'm voting him
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Post Post #542 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:25 am

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yay, sheepses
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
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Post Post #543 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:25 am

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*sheepseses

big difference.
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"Well, I..."
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Post Post #544 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:41 am

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Hey shattered and hiraki, come out and play. It's time to stop trolling and play the game.
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Post Post #545 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:48 am

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Time for me to show up again!

CLAIM: VIG


You guys decide if that's the truth or not.
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Post Post #546 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:50 am

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*facepalm*
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Post Post #547 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:58 am

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In post 531, Pine wrote:
In post 523, Revenus wrote:Fencing's gay.

:cry: :cry: :cry:

Seriously though, get an avatar. It makes it a lot easier to pick out your posts when skimming through to find quotes and points you've made, and there's a significant subconscious benefit to having an image to immediately associate with a name.

And Pops, you just can't resist the opportunity to provide a bunch of off-topic content when the chance presents itself, can you? Apply that level of commitment to the actual game, and I wouldn't be as suspicious of you.

Claiming or softclaiming PRs of any kind on D1 (not counting L-1 "claim or die" moments) is a bad idea in most cases, as it unnecessarily gives scum information and insight into your thought processes. A Townie fakeclaiming and even fakesoftclaiming can force a real PR into counterclaiming for a supposed scum kill, resulting in an otherwise innocent Townie being mislynched. Fakeclaiming vig is especially stupid, as it will very often lead to the REAL vig saying "Aha! That's either scum or the SK setting up a vig fakeclaim. I'll shoot him to find out." And we again have a dead fakeclaimer, with the added benefit of a wasted friendly fire shot.

^See? That's all that needed to be said. It isn't a discussion that will eat up half a day and a dozen posts, it's an experienced player taking
part
of a
single
post to completely defeat the incorrect idea, explain why, and re-educate. I'm moving on from this off-topic conversation and so should everyone else.

PE: Four more fucking fluff posts about this since I started typing? Shut the fuck up about it, people.


Keep this post right here in mind.
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Post Post #548 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:05 am

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Butt you have just created yet another distraction.
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Post Post #549 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:05 am

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In post 546, Beck wrote:*facepalm*
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"

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