NY 142: Rolling in the Deep, WAIT WAT? PARTY OVER?!

[bvoigt]

V/LA until tomorrow evening.

[Pine]

I have little to add since I last posted. Got a noticeable feeling of ambivalence from the last page. Thanks for providing some content, ThAd, looking forward to you being fully caught up.

[ThAdmiral]

Multiple vig claims. Awesome.

It's like spartacus up in this bitch!

I am now caught up.

[ThAdmiral]

Yeah, last 4 pages don't have much to talk about in them.

[ThAdmiral]

the 2 people on that wagon I am most leery of is bvoigt and theamateur

I think the money place to look for scum on that wagon is the three S's: slaandar, sky and sodaspirit. Combination of gut feeling, my pre-existing suspicion of sky, and the fact that 3, 4, and 5 are the cliche cushy scum positions on any given wagon.

[Beck]

The part of 3, 4, 5 isn't be necessarily true anymore, scum will try to get on early or even start wagons themselves.

The part that bugs me a out bvoigt was he said he was going to switch to pops, but wanted to wait after vijay voted funky, I want to know why he wanted to wait and why he was going to change to pops.

[Slandaar]

Its pointless voting funky today whatever his alignment

UNVOTE: funky

this is who I think is most likely scum :

VOTE: Hiraki

but ThAd is now firmly on my radar after his last post, that post seems really scummy.

[vijay2vasandani]

Really slandaar? Can you pinpoint as to why? Aside from the fact he said he thought you were scummy?

[Beck]

Seriously? Read the thread, hiraki is absolutely scummy. I can definitely endorse this one, so...

vote: hiraki

[Beck]

I also encourage everyone else to follow suit until hiraki decides to be useful. She hasn't done a single pro-town act all game. If she isn't scum, this will force her to participate and not skate through this game. If she is scum, this will just light a fire under her hopefully.

[vijay2vasandani]

Sorry Beck, I should have been clearer. My questions to slandaar were about his comment on ThAd.

[Pine]

but ThAd is now firmly on my radar after his last post, that post seems really scummy.

I agree with Hiraki (especially) and ThAd moving up the suspect list, but not with this statement. With the exception of including Slandaar, I have no issue with his list, though his lack of reasoning is suspicious, particularly from someone like ThAd.

[popsofctown]

Thad's making lots of sense and seems to have more of a handle on this game than I do.

Maybe I should sheep him

[Beck]

Sorry Beck, I should have been clearer. My questions to slandaar were about his comment on ThAd.

Ahh my bad, but a good question, I don't see anything wrong with TheAd's posts so far.

[Slandaar]

hes using information re the wagon on funky to try and cast suspicion on the 3 of us when we have no idea if the said wagon was scum or town, it makes no sense to do so in the way he is suggesting unless we know for sure funky is the vig... 3rd vote on scum seems pretty townie to me (i have no idea which vote mine was)

it reads to me like he knows funky is town.

[Beck]

If you think somebody is town, than using VCA is fine, he may not be town, but I doubt he is mafia.

Your comments toward him actually I could see coming from mafia than town.

I'll say I think funky is not mafia, so someone pushing his wagon is scum.

I'm still on the fence about you, you seem to say all the right things but my gut just tells me you could be scum. Thankfully for you, I don't trust my gut enough just yet.

[Revenus]

hey lets change our mind on people every 5 seconds because other people tell us to

[Beck]

Hey let's get our vote on somebody who actually can get lynched today instead of Sword of omen ok?

So taking my own advice since people won't lynch hiraki.

vote: rev

It's pretty obvious you would rather hunt Lurkers than scum.

[Revenus]

scum can't lurk? ok.


In a game of 22 players, i'd expect around 7 scum.


You really think no scum are lurking? We have like 10 players who have under 5 posts. I'd like to see them post more. It's early in the day.

Doesn't matter though as your reasons for voting and unvoting me in the past were mind bogglingly idiotic and with your vote being cast around like its worthless, I really don't care that you're joining my wagon, which BTW is populated by 2 people who haven't been on in over 2 days.

[Revenus]

You've swapped your vote around looking for the best bandwagon to join hoping that someone will go OH MY GOD BECK THAT IS THE GREATEST VOTE ever, and then join you on it. You're voting simply to boost your own ego. Don't call that scum hunting.

[theamatuer]

scum can't lurk? ok.


In a game of 22 players, i'd expect around 7 scum.


You really think no scum are lurking? We have like 10 players who have under 5 posts. I'd like to see them post more. It's early in the day.

Doesn't matter though as your reasons for voting and unvoting me in the past were mind bogglingly idiotic and with your vote being cast around like its worthless, I really don't care that you're joining my wagon, which BTW is populated by 2 people who haven't been on in over 2 days.

tbh, I'd say 4-5, plus a vig/SK. 7 is a little too much.
But yeah. One of the lurkers is probably scum. Im saying Funky.

[popsofctown]

hes using information re the wagon on funky to try and cast suspicion on the 3 of us when we have no idea if the said wagon was scum or town, it makes no sense to do so in the way he is suggesting unless we know for sure funky is the vig... 3rd vote on scum seems pretty townie to me (i have no idea which vote mine was)

it reads to me like he knows funky is town.

the latter slots of a wagon are always more likely to contain scum. A scum is unlikely to be the first vote of a bus, and hammer-bussing winds up being silly obvious so the trend is towards the middle.

Further more, whether funky is town or scum, he's pretty derpy. It doesn't take Thad a special role pm for him to know you don't actually have all that much information on his slot. It's decent wagon analysis.

[Beck]

You've swapped your vote around looking for the best bandwagon to join hoping that someone will go OH MY GOD BECK THAT IS THE GREATEST VOTE ever, and then join you on it. You're voting simply to boost your own ego. Don't call that scum hunting.

If I was doing that I'd be on the funky wagon, I don't like the funky wagon. And yes scum can lurk, but you honestly feel sword is the Lurker most likely to be scum?

Notice nobody has followed you, nor have you attempted to post reasons for people to follow you. You have people voting you already, yet you really aren't questioning them, you are sort of hoping they get bored waiting and change to somebody else. Everything about your play thus far makes more sense as you being scum, not town.

Plus I've given up trying to convince people cause nobody listens to me. I find bvoigt, theam, salndar, hiraki, shattered, and you the most scummiest.

And I don't see any stellar scumhunting coming from you either, your scum hunting has taken you to omen? Really? Why? Oh yeah cause he is lurking. See Lurker hunting, not scum hunting.


You forget, Town's best weapon is our ability to talk and vote, it takes 12 people to lynch, but only 4- 6 to make somebody feel pressure. That is what I have advocated all game, pressure people to see how people react.

But you don't get it, probably cause you are scum.

[Beck]

I gurantee you if hiraki or shattered got 6 quick votes on them, you would see then in here participating. You want to attack Lurkers? Attack the ones who are lurking AND being scummy

Hiraki and shattered fit that mold better than omen.

[Revenus]

Town's best weapon is to talk and vote, but if you do it in a manner that comes off as retarded, no one will listen to you.


No one beyond a handful of players, I'd say pine, slandaar, thadmiral, and pops have shown me any reason for them not to get lynched, as apparently stupid behavior in this game is allowed and when people scumhunt, they're allowed to throw down votes with no explanation and it's "ok"


Give me a fucking break.