Open 347: White Flag Mafia (Game Over)

[Fruit Basket]

Those kinds of posts are a case-by-case basis. I think for trekker, it's scummy.

what did you mean by this then?

I'm not sure; he's probably an alt (I initially thought of crypto but don't now), but I don't think so.

[SleepyKrew]

No I haven't. Have you?

You go first, then me.
Category is:
trekker

[Fruit Basket]

Cautious at first, but quick to vote later. c_p's posts just don't feel genuine. I've said as much before, but I'll say it again.

i don't actually recall you saying this at all

It feels like there's only 4/5 people playing this game atm, which is annoying.

mod can we get some prods

[Fruit Basket]

No I haven't. Have you?

I'm not sure; he's probably an alt (I initially thought of crypto but don't now), but I don't think so.

(I thought that answered your question, I've never played with the account trekker at any rate.)

[SleepyKrew]

Oh sorry. K answering your thing. Gotta go read when I said it so I can

make up shit

remember the context.

[SleepyKrew]

Yeah so with some people, saying "i r town mark me town" is null (Parama comes to mind). Others it is scummy. I don't think it's ever town.

Anyway, trekker just doesn't seem like the kind of person to make a statement like that as town. Call it gut.

[Fruit Basket]

mmkay.

[SleepyKrew]

Mmkay no or mmkay okay?

[Fruit Basket]

WHY DO I GOTTA PICK ONE? That's fine, I can kinda see where you're coming from actually I just disagree I guess.

[SleepyKrew]

mmkay

[trekker]

Except trekker's inquisition is obvfake because I'd been calling him scum for a while before his question.

Hi. You're still dodging the question. Town shouldn't withhold information; tell me or I will start a wagon on you.

[trekker]

Saying that I'm town is scummy?

[SleepyKrew]

1. lol
2. rofl

[fatlikepig]

Quil, your case on me is bad and you should feel bad.

Minimal contribution is definitely a scumtell when what you have contributed is scummy. As for my case not being there, the scummy aspects of C_P's early posts should have been fairly obvious. I delivered on that anyway, and I don't see why you're dismissing that just because it came later (hey, do I get to dismiss the rest of your case too? I mean, you didn't post any of this when you voted for me, right?).

Not going to bother with the rest of it, since ISO/meta on me shows that the rest of the case is baloney.

Why is trekker town when he has been calling people scum all game with no reasons?
Why are you voting for me if you have SH as leaning scum and me as null-leaning-scum? Shouldn't your vote be on the person you find most scummy?

Did I? My bad. I had pig in mind for a vote for a while. Must never have gone through with it

The more I think about this, the more I think it's a scumslip. Town shouldn't be "planning" votes. Scum "plan" votes because they need to pin stuff on town. I'm pretty happy with my vote on SH now.

[bvoigt]

I'm still OK with my DonJosh vote. His early vote on fatlikepig (here) seemed insincere because at the time, FLP only had two RVS posts. However, I'll be making a full list of reads soon.

VOTE: fatlikepig

language tell: 'reek'

You really think townies are less likely to use the word "reek"?

VOTE: trekker
No explanation necessary. He's scum.

I need an explanation.

@Amrun: I know I didn't post a lot of content in the early game, but I was busy on Tuesday and Wednesday and still haven't really gotten "into" the game. I'll hopefully be more active starting today.

@trekker: Would you please summarize a few of your reads with explanations?

[Morthas]

Cross_Polination

is prodded

[Morthas]

Day 1 Votecount

: Sixth

kondi2424

: ScreamingHawk, trekker, L-5

Fruit Basket

: Nobody Special, Equinox, L-5

ScreamingHawk

: SleepyKrew, fatlikepig, L-5

Nobody Special

: Cross_Pollination, Fruit Basket, L-5

fatlikepig

: Quilford, L-6

Cross_Pollination

:Amrun, L-6

DonJosh

: bvoigt, L-6

trekker

: DonJosh L-6

Amrun

: kondi2424, L-6

Not Voting:

With 13 alive, 7 to lynch.

No changes in votes.

[Cross_Pollination]

I've been pretty busy recently, sorry that I haven't posted much, gonna read through what's happened and decide on who to vote for later tonight

[ScreamingHawk]

Quil, your case on me is bad and you should feel bad.

Minimal contribution is definitely a scumtell when what you have contributed is scummy. As for my case not being there, the scummy aspects of C_P's early posts should have been fairly obvious. I delivered on that anyway, and I don't see why you're dismissing that just because it came later (hey, do I get to dismiss the rest of your case too? I mean, you didn't post any of this when you voted for me, right?).

Not going to bother with the rest of it, since ISO/meta on me shows that the rest of the case is baloney.

Why is trekker town when he has been calling people scum all game with no reasons?
Why are you voting for me if you have SH as leaning scum and me as null-leaning-scum? Shouldn't your vote be on the person you find most scummy?

Did I? My bad. I had pig in mind for a vote for a while. Must never have gone through with it

The more I think about this, the more I think it's a scumslip. Town shouldn't be "planning" votes. Scum "plan" votes because they need to pin stuff on town. I'm pretty happy with my vote on SH now.

My case on you was never solid. Assuming you're town at this point. Also if you're still upset; what question was this? Sorry, I'll be back in about 3 hours

[fatlikepig]

You still haven't told me why Quil's first two posts had more content than my first two posts.

[bvoigt]

I've changed my mind about C_P. A couple of the things he's said don't seem to match up. His first two posts are pretty cautious:

Remind me why we're all voting for him already someone?

I'm gonna wait a while before I vote. Haven't noticed anything suspicious as of yet.

But then we have his ISO #5, which is just the opposite:

I wanna see someone get killed

Furthermore, he contradicts himself about his vote on Nobody Special. Initially, he said that his vote wasn't because NS was suspicious, but just because he was trolling. But he later says that he did find NS suspicious:

Nobody Special seems like a troll of some sort. Other than that, I've got nothing on him. Oh well, it's better than nothing.

VOTE: Nobody Special

And I found his posts suspicious.

UNVOTE: DonJosh
VOTE: Cross_Pollination

[SleepyKrew]

Omg. If it's an all newb Mafia I will squee

Hawk, why post an insincere case?

[Amrun]

Bvoigt loses his lurker badge because he sees exactly what I see.

My issue with the "I wanna see someoene die" comment: if this is a triggerhappy newbie, as the comment suggests, then the cautious posts simply would not exist. But they do. If he wanted to see anyonew die, he'd have voted for kondi on page 1, but he didn't.

Definitely newb_scum vibes.

[SleepyKrew]

You're willing to drop a scumread just because he agrees with you?

[Amrun]

I said he was lurking, not scum.

I was being a little facetious - he posted content and that is what lost his badge.

But it's not about "agreeing.". It's about 100% following my train of thought and posting what I was too lazy to. That's one of the strongest towntells there is.