The Children of Húrin Mafia (GREAT REVIVAL)

[MagnaofIllusion]

Reread that exchange, other than that I'm done responding to you.

Taking your ball and going home when you keep getting bludgeoned in the argument. Noted.

MORE SUN AND MOON VOTES PLEASE!!!!

[kanyeknowsbest]

woops youre right hero. i thought i was voting s&m.

vote s&m

I suggest we lynch empking. MoI should die today if he's telling the truth. You can lynch\vig S&M and me if he flips town.

i dont get this at all. do you think moi is scum?

also when i was glancing at the thread on my phone while i was out of town, dekes play today struck me as hella scummy.

[Ellibereth]

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/search.p ... 8&sr=posts

[Herodotus]

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/search.p ... 8&sr=posts

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... lect=12454

[Herodotus]

... which is not to say that I disagree that Espeonage might be lurkerscum, but your play has been frustrating here. Tell us your point.

kanyek raises a decent point in response to ooba.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/search.p ... 3&sr=posts

[Ellibereth]

I'm planning to just lurkerhunt until scum start dropping.
Since there are definitely a few in there.
espeo point is the posting elsewhere vs. here while going all lololol no time here.

[Mastermind of Sin]

This isn't the only game Espy is lurking in, fyi.

I'm hoping he gets replaced, though.

Elli is a hypocrit.

[Amrun]

You again dodge the issue. Amrun said %u201CI%u2019m overwhelmed, I don%u2019t have time for this game as an individual%u201D. CSL is clearly not going to play the game. Thus Amrun knows to stay in she needs to devote attention as basically a single player to the game.If she was telling the truth %u2013 she%u2019d have either replaced out or not been joining new games as an individual as opposed to staying in this game while increasing her %u2018game load%u2019.

This is patently ridiculous.

You don't know my situation, and even if what you were saying was true, it wouldn't indicate scum motivation. It indicates the opposite, if anything, actually.

Yes, I've failed in this game because I haven't been able to contribute properly, but are you seriously suggesting that I'm employing lurking to the point of being a central focus to the game as a SCUM STRATEGY? That's laughable.

As it happens, though, CSL kept promising me content "tonight" or "tomorrow" and I kept using that as an excuse to put this game off. That's my personal problem. I joined two games since this one: one as a hydra and as a result of being begged with the agreement that I won't be doing much of anything, ESPECIALLY until I get going properly with this game, and one small open that I pre-/inned and really wanted to play that I actually regret joining due to my workload. It's clearly a null tell, and none of your business.

Calling me a lurker doesn't upset me; it's true. It's shameful, but true, in this case. Saying I'm doing this on purpose as some kind of backwards, stupid strategy is, quite honestly, beneath your intelligence, MoI.


To answer some other questions:

My role name does NOT have a surname. It is Turin with an accent over the u.

Plum declines to answer my inquiry about kill flavor, and did not comment on my question about mason; perhaps that means the explanations offered in thread are simply correct.

[SpyreX]

Tomorrow we can lynch elli assuming Empking is dead.

Of course that'd require a lynch or the heat death of the universe and I'm 50/50 at this point.

[Andrius]

Well.
We know Feysal won't shoot Empking.

The winds are largely silent, as the wrath has been averted before I could channel it.

Plum declines to answer my inquiry about kill flavor, and did not comment on my question about mason; perhaps that means the explanations offered in thread are simply correct.

So naive to think that MASON means town in a bastard game.
Waiting for Faraday' response, since he was waiting on this.

[Andrius]

p.s. Thor actually POSTED.

[Furcolow]

vote: empking

[Magister Ludi]

The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated

PLEASE HOLD

[Plum]

VOTE COUNT #3.4

Sun and Moon -

6

- Empking, MagnaofIllusion, Ellibereth, Andrius, SpyreX, kanyeknowsbest
Empking - 4 - Gut, Sun and Moon, ooba, Mastermind of Sin, Furcolow
Furcolow - 1 - Herodotus

Not Voting (5): Dekes, mockingjaye, Feysal, Espeonage, Will-o-wisp

With 17 alive it will take 9 votes to lynch.

PLEASE POST MORE, PEOPLE!

Deadline will be (expired on 2011-11-01 23:59:59)

Prodding Espeonage and Dekes again. Magister Ludi replaces back into his original slot, previously played by ooba. Last night I erroneously declared a prod on a dead player; please disregard that.

[MagnaofIllusion]

vote: empking

Hell no. We are lynching Sun and Moon and Feysal is killing Empking at Night.

Get your vote back on Sun and Moon stat!!!

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@Dekes, Mockingjaye, WoW, Mastermind

– You all have either previously voted Sun and Moon today or expressed an inclination to do so. Let’s complete the scum lynch please!

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This is patently ridiculous.

BLAH BLAH BLAH stuff about lurking not being a viable scum strategy BLAH BLAH BLAH

Yes, I obviously altered the above quote before anyone screams 'Tampering'.

You are presenting your opinion that lurking isn’t a viable scum strategy. That’s patently absurd. Lynch all Lurkers didn’t develop for no reason. It is especially effective in a game where multiple other players are lurking and some of them aren’t scum. Let’s look at the list of other lurkers / flakers shall we?

Dekes, ooba/Magister, kayne, Espeonage, empking, WoW, Furc

All of these aren’t your partners. So hiding in this mass is a good scum stategy. Had I not investigated you it certainly would have continued to work for you.

Add in CSL’s meta of lurking as scum and viola – recipe for Sun and Moon lynch.

I joined two games since this one: one as a hydra and as a result of being begged with the agreement that I won't be doing much of anything, ESPECIALLY until I get going properly with this game, and one small open that I pre-/inned and really wanted to play that I actually regret joining due to my workload. It's clearly a null tell, and none of your business.

This is a direct lie. One game you signed up for and started did not involve either a Hydra or a Pre-in.

Plum declines to answer my inquiry about kill flavor, and did not comment on my question about mason; perhaps that means the explanations offered in thread are simply correct.

Yes, the explanation that you are scum who need to hang is simply correct!

MORE SUN AND MOON VOTES PLEASE!!!!!

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Well.
We know Feysal won't shoot Empking.

If he doesn’t he hangs. Problem solved.

[Magister Ludi]

Alert,

We are not lynching Sun and Moon today.

It crossed my mind that Magna could be some sort of lyncher rolecop whose target is Sun and Moon, which make sense considering Sun and Moon is, in fact, Turin.

Magna has claimed he is a dying cop, which initially makes me hesitate, and the fact he claimed with a name as well, which is very unusual, is suspicious.

[Magister Ludi]

Plus, right now we have three town directed kills a day if I am not mistaken.

Feysal (random serial killer with stipulations I need to reread about)
Amrun (Turn, the vig)
The Lynch

Lets start slicing through all this noise.

If you don't have a role or a claimed town win condition, you can start dying. I'm unsure where and what is happening with spyreX, Furc, and Andrius, but they should be eliminated in the next two night phases. We probably have minimal protective roles left with the death of two doctors, so this needs to happen promptly.

Apparently empking is some sort of Seraph guilty? If so, turbo lynch him out.

Just need to find the rest of the scum squadron. Initiating day two lynch and activity review in 3...2...1...

[MagnaofIllusion]

Alert,

We are not lynching Sun and Moon today.

Alert,

No we are. He's scum. He's not alignment confirmed to you. Kthanksbye.

MORE SUN AND MOON VOTES PLEASE!!!!

[Empking]

Alert,

We are not lynching Sun and Moon today.

Yes we... are?

[Amrun]

This is a direct lie. One game you signed up for and started did not involve either a Hydra or a Pre-in.

And which game was that? I may have forgotten one in the timeline of things. I don't really care. The point is that it's completely irrelevant to this game.

[SpyreX]

If you don't have a role or a claimed town win condition, you can start dying. I'm unsure where and what is happening with

spyreX

, Furc, and Andrius,

Would you like to [A]bort, [R]etry or [F]ail?

[Will-o-wisp]

Alert,

We are not lynching Sun and Moon today.

It crossed my mind that Magna could be some sort of lyncher rolecop whose target is Sun and Moon, which make sense considering Sun and Moon is, in fact, Turin.

Magna has claimed he is a dying cop, which initially makes me hesitate, and the fact he claimed with a name as well, which is very unusual, is suspicious.

That crossed my mind as well. I don't want to lynch Sun and Moon because 1) we would be losing a vig, 2) we could potentially be playing into Feysal's wincondition and 3) Magna could be a lyncher.

I don't want to role speculate... and I do that often. :\ Lynching Empking could be beneficial, but it allows free reign on Feysal for a night, potentially harming town more, as well as most likely killing Magna. At this point I think we are damned if we do, damned if we don't. If Magna is a lyncher, I would rather share a win with him as town then lose to Mafia.

Sorry I have been incredibly inactive in this game as of late. Hopefully my partner kept you all content.

Ludi, I know this has been asked repeatedly, but are you alignment confirmed? And welcome back.

[Magister Ludi]

First off, the wording of my role own makes it ambiguous. It tells me that Sun and Moon is Turin, my brother, and that I am reasonably sure he share the same town win condition as me. Despite proding, and I'm sure on purpose, Plum has not clarified this.

SpyreX..... what happened to being a princess? Independent of anything else, Really, the fact that you spent the first several days adhering to a post restriction, to the detriment of town (at least for day one), and the fact that it now seems to have vanished, makes me unsure enough of your alignment to want you vigged out of the game.

Will-o-Wisp, what It seems, unless I am mistaken, the "seraphs" have a guilty on empking, and are confirming that Sun and Moon, is, in fact, Turin. If you believe that SunandMoon is town, lynching a vig just so that the third party lyncher Magna can win is hideously anti town, considering that same vig could shoot him tonight after we lynch Mafia.

More coming

[SpyreX]

It wasn't a detriment and every time someone sings that same old song and dance part of me dies inside.

Then goes to the netherworld to combine with the other dead parts to create a monster that will eventually destroy the universe.

The graph that illustrates "People that whine about my 'PR'" and "People that are not town" is going to be pretty tech when its said and done.

[Will-o-wisp]

Might want to check your math on that graph

yo

VOTE: Empking