Mini 1250: That 70s Smalltown - GAME OVER

Magua · Post Post #525 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:09 pm

Yay! Way to go, jason, I knew you could pull through!

Seacore, I called you as SK for reasons I outlined (truthfully) in the thread (though I admittedly had the advantage of knowing it wasn't jason). You were very safety-conscious in what you were doing.

Seacore · Post Post #526 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:10 pm

Well done, I was really hoping ConS would look scummy based on his absurd case on Farside that he kept pushing.

Also, kdowns. With no harshness intended, I think you need to return to the newbie queue for a few games. Yes, I took advantage of your bad play to have you available as a late game mislynch. Just because you found me scummy 'all game' doesn't make you right. You were unable to articulate a case against me that could persuade anybody and the points that you did raise were not scum tells in the slightest.
As SK, I played my day game pretty much like town. (In fact, I forgot I was SK for much of D1). I would have pushed the policy lynch angle on you regardless of my alignment.

Seacore · Post Post #527 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:11 pm

Yeah, I knew you had me pegged Magua, that's what you had to die! Muahahaha! It was a bonus that I got Laurie in the same kill.

I'm surprised that I came off as safety conscious, I was trying to look the opposite. My rough day game plan was to look loud but ineffectual, as in my experience, SK try to sit below the surface.

jasonT1981 · Post Post #528 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:17 pm

In post 526, Seacore wrote:Well done, I was really hoping ConS would look scummy based on his absurd case on Farside that he kept pushing.

And that is another reason why I shot you too, Farside already said he didnt get the case on you. So a lynch tomorrow would have been harder, so I shot you, thinking if we did go to a day, Con would be an easier lynch to achieve (Sorry, Con)

Seacore · Post Post #529 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:20 pm

Yeah, but if you were wrong, you would have lost. Since the SK shot Farside and you shot Seacore-town, resulting in SK v Mafia with an SK win.

But might haves don't cut it, you won, good game

jasonT1981 · Post Post #530 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:25 pm

thanks, i saw game over and cringed as I opened lol. I actually only submitted the kill with an hour left until deadline I was that conflicted on things.

Seacore · Post Post #531 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:28 pm

I knew one of us had to kill farside. I was hoping we'd both do it and i had a game plan ready for the 1v1v1

jasonT1981 · Post Post #532 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:46 pm

Yea, I was counting on SK killing farside lol

farside22 · Post Post #533 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:31 pm

Sigh I swear CS will be the death of me. I had it figured out he was definately not the SK and knew it was between Seacore and Jason.
I ended up jailing CS in case the CS was scum. Damn kill delay.
I figure a bit of WIFOM with the scum team and started thinking Jason was mafia with the kills going on and who was "saved".
GG Jason. Better then your last scum game for sure. LOL

Quilford · Post Post #534 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:33 pm

kdowns, you're blacklisted.

Farside and ConSpiracy, you two need to stop getting into stupid arguments.

No correct lynches for the town. I'm truly disgusted.

farside22 · Post Post #535 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:48 pm

What are you talking about Quilford. I was nice to CS this game. I just didn't get his cases or points at all.
Plus he was trying to tie me as a SK when the freeking town tracker claimed to track me night 1 and I went no where. I mean seriously........UGH

Seacore · Post Post #536 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:18 pm

Yeah, ConS really confused me with his intense need to push the idea that farside was scum, even though it would have been suicide for me, as non-aligned scum, to lie.

kdowns · Post Post #537 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:09 pm

Seacore, so my stance is right... But I know that building cases are my weak points... I raged at myself when I got Fonz to tell me the remaining people that were anti-town.
Also, I am actually in Queue for Newbie right now, it actually takes a bit to get into a game.

Quilford, I understand completely why you have me blacklisted.

kdowns · Post Post #538 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:10 pm

Also, I lol'd when I had actually Voted for the remaining Scum out of luck.

Magua · Post Post #539 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:11 pm

For my own morbid curiosity, Seacore, did you think I was town or scum when you submitted the kill on me?

Magua · Post Post #540 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:17 pm

Oh, while I'm here: Dead QT

I have no compunction against the Mafia QT being released, but I'll wait for jason and IAAUN to chime in.

Seacore · Post Post #541 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:55 pm

Mostly town, Magua, but I didn't care. During the day I was happy to scum hunt, at night I was getting rid of threats to me.

Seacore · Post Post #542 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:04 pm

Lol, Magua is always quality in a graveyard QT

Seacore · Post Post #543 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:16 pm

Hmmm, seems people feel my farside attack was sub-optimal.

Here are my thoughts.

I didn't need to kill the mafia to win. Since I would have won automatically if there were two players remaining.
Also, me killing the mafia would not stop them from killing me.

So, I hoped that mafia would hit the wrong target in aiming at me, and I'd kill farside who wouldn't be JKing me, and then i'd win. That was the home run shot.
Plan B was for Farside to JK the mafia, my kill would go through, and there'd be 1 scum, me and 1 unconfirmed town remaining.

I'd then immediately post (and I was going to be online at the time) saying "I vote no lynch because I refuse to play king maker, you guys are going to have to shoot it out between yourselves" hoping that the mafia would be convinced that I was town.

Finally, shooting at town meant that if I didn't win, mafia probably would, shooting at scum meant the opposite. I chose mafia.

Quilford · Post Post #544 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:01 am

Don't blame you.

jasonT1981 · Post Post #545 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:02 am

no issue with qt being posted

MagnaofIllusion · Post Post #546 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:36 am

Congrats scum - your good decision in endgame and overall better play means the win is deserved.

Thanks for the SmallTown game Fonz! Your set-up was well balanced I think and you ran the game as smoothly and efficently.

I think the Dead QT has any relevant thoughts of mine regarding the game itself or the players.

ConSpiracy · Post Post #547 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:56 pm

Quote wall in endgame!

In post 528, jasonT1981 wrote:
In post 526, Seacore wrote:Well done, I was really hoping ConS would look scummy based on his absurd case on Farside that he kept pushing.

And that is another reason why I shot you too, Farside already said he didnt get the case on you. So a lynch tomorrow would have been harder, so I shot you, thinking if we did go to a day, Con would be an easier lynch to achieve (Sorry, Con)

Lawl, it wasn't absurd, as your kills on Hiplop are still odd.
I take it was true, but farside was tunneling a bit.

In post 533, farside22 wrote:Sigh I swear CS will be the death of me. I had it figured out he was definately not the SK and knew it was between Seacore and Jason.
I ended up jailing CS in case the CS was scum. Damn kill delay.
I figure a bit of WIFOM with the scum team and started thinking Jason was mafia with the kills going on and who was "saved".
GG Jason. Better then your last scum game for sure. LOL

Hmm, you protected who I wanted and it was the worst you protected... Oh well.

In post 534, Quilford wrote:kdowns, you're blacklisted.

Farside and ConSpiracy, you two need to stop getting into stupid arguments.

No correct lynches for the town. I'm truly disgusted.

I know, I'm not going to play with farside again I think. This is every game we are both in.

In post 535, farside22 wrote:What are you talking about Quilford. I was nice to CS this game. I just didn't get his cases or points at all.
Plus he was trying to tie me as a SK when the freeking town tracker claimed to track me night 1 and I went no where. I mean seriously........UGH

If you read the track properly, the SK wasn't shown if tracked to the scum kill.

In post 536, Seacore wrote:Yeah, ConS really confused me with his intense need to push the idea that farside was scum, even though it would have been suicide for me, as non-aligned scum, to lie.

It's not as I told you. But nevermind.

Liked the small-town, I'd certainly want to play one again.

The Circle
not much in it, only some players that thought I was scum.

Magua · Post Post #548 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:57 pm

In post 541, Seacore wrote:Mostly town, Magua

Seacore · Post Post #549 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:11 pm

Yep, as usual, my scum hunting needs work, I'm pretty terrible at it actually.

Which is funny, because you pegged me as SK because my scum hunting at holes.

ConS, I seriously don't understand how you aren't understanding this.

I lost the game because the other scum killed me.
That was pretty much my biggest risk the moment the game got into 3v1v1.

So lets say SK Seacore recieved the information "Jason is town", but instead said "Farside is town"
My lie may have still been true or false, but I definitely wouldn't have known.
If it was false, and Farside was the last mafia. Farside would know for certain that I was the SK, because town-Seacore would never ever lie about it.
But SK Seacore, having lied, would not know that Farside was the scum.

So Farside would shoot at Seacore (the same way Jason did)

Therefore there was no chance that Scum-Seacore would lie
There was also no chance that Town-Seacore would lie

Therefore there was no chance that Seacore would lie

Therefore Farside was definitely town.

Where have I failed in logic?