Mini 1260 - Last Will Mafia III (Over)

LlamaFluff · Post Post #225 (ISO) » Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:39 am

Vote Count

StrangerCoug (3) - Shattered Viewpoint, Amrun, Fishythefish
Shattered Viewpoint (1) - StrangerCoug
Darox (1) - CooLDoG

Not Voting (4) - Darox, Rhinox

With 9 votes it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline is November 4th

Shattered Viewpoint · Post Post #226 (ISO) » Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:52 am

In post 197, Rhinox wrote:Hi I'm not Darox I'm the one with the 3 votes.

Someone better give me a rock solid town read today so I know who to send my votes to in the likely event of my death tonight.

In post 191, StrangerCoug wrote:Rhinox still has to write up a case on me if he wants to make friends by hammering me.

For now, VOTE: Shattered Viewpoint for the same reason I voted him on Day 1, but that may change based on how Rhinox answers Darox's question and Darox answers CooLDoG's question. Amrun should still consider herself safe from me at the moment.

What do you mean by make friends by hammering you? You were my random vote yesterday but I never found a place to move it and was fine with your wagon by the end of the day.
I have to be more careful today with my votes today
and I plan to look into things in more detail than I did yesterday. I don't think darox's question was serious and I was planning on answering it.

cooldog, you asked me a couple questions yesterday but day ended before I was able to answer did you still want answers?

I read your iso to see what you had to say about SC (the, you know,

leading wagon).

All there was is right here. Distancing? Perhaps.

And what do you mean by the bolded part?

And also, this, but you could've asked that in the QT, I suppose, and just re-asked here for show.

In post 210, Rhinox wrote:coug did you know you were hammering whisper yesterday when you voted him/her?

Rhinox · Post Post #227 (ISO) » Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:09 am

Well thats a theory... I mean given this is a 9p game and likely only a scumteam of 2, it really wouldn't make sense for me to leave my vote on my scumpartner all day and risk him getting lynched when at any point I coulda pulled a "welp my random vote doesn't apply any more UNVOTE". scum can't really afford to bus D1 when there's only 2 of them. You are correct that I haven't said alot about coug (or anyone really), but I do intend to change that today.

Regarding the bolded I just mean I don't really want to put my votes down until I'm ready to lynch. It'll only take 2 other votes to secure a lynch, they could be scum votes or there could be an early hammer by accident if people forget to count the extra votes.

StrangerCoug · Post Post #228 (ISO) » Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:44 am

In post 220, Amrun wrote:You do realize that quicklynch in your game was entirely scumdriven, right? Did you have any reason to think it was similar with whispersilk?

Any quicklynch will naturally arouse suspicions that scum are on the wagon, but nobody already on the wagon stood out to me as scum when I hammered.

In post 226, Shattered Viewpoint wrote:
In post 197, Rhinox wrote:Hi I'm not Darox I'm the one with the 3 votes.

Someone better give me a rock solid town read today so I know who to send my votes to in the likely event of my death tonight.

In post 191, StrangerCoug wrote:Rhinox still has to write up a case on me if he wants to make friends by hammering me.

For now, VOTE: Shattered Viewpoint for the same reason I voted him on Day 1, but that may change based on how Rhinox answers Darox's question and Darox answers CooLDoG's question. Amrun should still consider herself safe from me at the moment.

What do you mean by make friends by hammering you? You were my random vote yesterday but I never found a place to move it and was fine with your wagon by the end of the day.
I have to be more careful today with my votes today
and I plan to look into things in more detail than I did yesterday. I don't think darox's question was serious and I was planning on answering it.

cooldog, you asked me a couple questions yesterday but day ended before I was able to answer did you still want answers?

I read your iso to see what you had to say about SC (the, you know,
leading wagon).
All there was is right here. Distancing? Perhaps.

And what do you mean by the bolded part?

And also, this, but you could've asked that in the QT, I suppose, and just re-asked here for show.

In post 210, Rhinox wrote:coug did you know you were hammering whisper yesterday when you voted him/her?

This is a very weak case on Rhinox. It was clear that his vote on me was random, and while he didn't pull it off and had only started talking about me in earnest since the day started, I fail to see how that makes us likely to be scumbuddies.

I'm very happy with where my vote is, Amrun being your scumbuddy or not.

Amrun · Post Post #229 (ISO) » Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:45 am

SV IS TOWN

GET IT THROUGH YOUR FREAKING HEAD

StrangerCoug · Post Post #230 (ISO) » Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:47 am

No he is not.

Amrun · Post Post #231 (ISO) » Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:48 am

Yes, he is, and talking about weak cases... look at yours. Your levels of confidence between posts do not match up.

StrangerCoug · Post Post #232 (ISO) » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:00 pm

The less effort you put in actually convincing me that Shattered Viewpoint is town, the less I am going to listen to you. Give evidence of Shattered Viewpoint being town that has nothing to do with you or I will reconsider the two of you being linked.

Fishythefish · Post Post #233 (ISO) » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:47 pm

@Amrun: where does your SV town read come from?

Amrun · Post Post #234 (ISO) » Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:10 pm

Been there done that.

Meta. Reads. Level of usefulness.

He is town to the nth.

StrangerCoug · Post Post #235 (ISO) » Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:23 pm

In post 234, Amrun wrote:Meta.

Useless, especially if Shattered Viewpoint is a good player.

In post 234, Amrun wrote:Reads.

Explain.

In post 234, Amrun wrote:Level of usefulness.

Explain.

Amrun · Post Post #236 (ISO) » Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:43 pm

Shattered Viewpoint is NS. I've played with him both as NS and as SV. He has slightly different meta as SV, but not totally different.

Usually, he lurks a lot more than this, but when he's town, his contributions are genuine, like they are now, and when he is scum, he is more flippant, more jokes, a hell of a lot less content.

I follow his reads so far and they mostly agree with mine.

StrangerCoug · Post Post #237 (ISO) » Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:53 pm

I still disagree that he's town, but I have the answer that I want from you.

Fishythefish · Post Post #238 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:26 am

SC doesn't feel like scum. But I can't put my finger on why not.

UNVOTE:

Going to think about the game tomorrow.

CooLDoG · Post Post #239 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:31 am

Sorry for not posting guys. RL won the battle there...

Ohhh, high thar NS! Didn't know we were playing.

@amrun, how does level of usefulness contribute to a town read? That's one thing I do not get with both you and rhinox. How is being useful townish? Can't scum

act

be useful as well?

I really need to do that re-read... But funding the damn time. Tomorrow I

should

be able to look at SC more closely. But for now you guys are going to have to be satisfied with this:

Darox has yet to post content this entire game. HAs anybody else noticed that? And that fucker was on the mislynch wagon yesterday. This guy 100% needs pressure.

Hay rhinox, do you have to put all your votes on one person?

Also, Amrun, scum reads. Nuff' bout who you think is useful.

Amrun · Post Post #240 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:17 pm

HEY COOLDOG

I HAVE A VOTE

GUESS WEHRE IT IS

ALSO LEVEL OF USEFULNESS ON SV IS A TOWNTELL - NOT EVERYONE, BUT ON SV

Fishythefish · Post Post #241 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:24 am

Right. None of the people who've actually contributed to the game feel particularly scummy to me, with the exception of SC, who I'm flip-flopping wildly on. So

VOTE: Darox

Post content or die.

Fishythefish · Post Post #242 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:27 am

The reason I'm flipping wildly on SC is because there are two explanations for his play. Either he's scum, who twice found it convenient to appear very confident in his reads, or he's town who was twice very confident in his reads. If it's the latter, we have an enormous playstyle difference, and I really don't know how likely I think that is. I should probably get my hands dirty and actually meta him, or at least work out if I've played with him before.

Amrun · Post Post #243 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:35 am

He was in New Designers. I don't remember much about his play but I remember his role; he was quicklynched by accident due to role mechanics.

CooLDoG · Post Post #244 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:48 pm

In post 240, Amrun wrote:HEY COOLDOG

I HAVE A VOTE

GUESS WEHRE IT IS

ALSO LEVEL OF USEFULNESS ON SV IS A TOWNTELL - NOT EVERYONE, BUT ON SV

Wait, you have only one scum read out of 10 pages?
Explain this usefulness bullshit please. I still do not get how being "useful" = town. How are you even quantifying usefulness? And how is SV useful right now? What the fuck is usefulness anyway?

NS/SV's posts has only made 16 posts so far. Most of them about two lines. One post is simply a "<3". Another one is about him being butthurt about someone fucking his gf. And yet another one is a prod doge. Is he really "useful". Why do you feel the need to defend him anyway?

Amrun might be worth a vote later on...

Still need to read SC... this has strung out far too long. Community comes on tonight

Maybe tomorrow? Or maybe later tonight...

Amrun · Post Post #245 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:52 pm

I've ALREADY EXPLAINED it. REAAAAAAAAD.

And I only have one strong scumread so far. There are almost definitely only two scum. That's not actually strange.

StrangerCoug · Post Post #246 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:47 pm

This town needs a swift kick in the butt.

Mod: Massprod please.

LlamaFluff · Post Post #247 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:49 pm

Darox has been prodded. No one else is within prodding range

Darox · Post Post #248 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:57 pm

Ow.

I forgot Thursday was a day that existed.
Also that will changes don't count for activity.

Completely not bothered by fishys vote.
Still think stacking votes on Rhinox is a bad idea.

StrangerCoug · Post Post #249 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:58 pm

Great. You're here. Now post something decent. You're my number two for lurking.