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Post Post #850 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:31 am

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I watched Peregrine V and got no results, not no one visited him I got no results. I don't know if it was because of something someone did to him or to me.
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Post Post #851 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:47 am

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Weird.
In other news, Lurc is Crafter.
That means we know everyone's flavor name now.
Hmm... out of the 4 of you I'd say Peregrine and Chair are the most likely scum... Lurc being the least likely. Gonna reread a bit and confirm my reads, but I don't see much happening to change them.
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Post Post #852 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:26 am

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In post 850, Lurconis wrote:I watched Peregrine V and got no results, not no one visited him I got no results. I don't know if it was because of something someone did to him or to me.


Well, since as far as I know no one visited me, I can confirm this.
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Post Post #853 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:31 am

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Right now, my top suspects are : everyone.

However, time to address the multiple "town" roles that are still around. ie, Parama and Lurconis. Each time another player with their "role" died and flipped town. I don't know if this means they are scum together, but right now this whole thing leads my suspicions.

Also suspicious of Chair and Zang, just because.

Probably re-read the game since we have many alignments.
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Post Post #854 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:21 am

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Lurconis is almost guaranteed to be scum. Here's why.

Lurconis claimed watcher in post 504. This was way back near the beginning of day two.

His claimed targets: redpanda, then johhog, then redpanda, then peregrinev. The only visit he claims to have seen was parama visiting johhog.

So, let's put ourselves in a scum state of mind with lurconis as town. There's a flipped watcher and a claimed second watcher - this
strongly
suggests that there are no protective roles. So, they should kill him, right?

But they don't. They leave him alive for three days, letting him get results, and then
on the third night (last night) block him
(assuming no other explanation pops up). Speaking of which, we should massclaim. I'd propose popcorn starting with either parama or lurconis deciding who to claim first. Only peregrine, zang, and us are left to claim.

Essentially, the case on lurconis is that the scum would have absolutely NO reason to treat him how he has been treated if he is real. He was left alive for three straight nights, and only blocked on one of them. What's more, he watched redpanda on two out of the first three nights, and then, on the night when he dies, lurconis conveniently didn't watch redpanda.

Lurconis, please give in-depth reasons for why you watched all of the people that you watched.

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Post Post #855 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:08 pm

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Starting Twisted post analysis.

I second the fullclaim, but want it to be popcorn, with each person stating who they want to claim after they do.
Claims should include actions, targets, and why.
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Post Post #856 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:16 pm

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I'mma startin' this here popcorn claim because I've already claimed.

Well unless Lurc wants to start it.
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Post Post #857 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:18 pm

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Not that I'm expecting much to come out of this really... 2 town flavor cops, 2 town watchers, and 1 psychiatrist-thingy whatever... if we have any more roles I'd be surprised :|
Then again all roles so far have proved to be about as useful as... well, vt <_<
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Post Post #858 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:50 pm

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I'm fine with a massclaim.

I'm also going to reread because I really don't have any scumreads left.
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Post Post #859 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:37 pm

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To answer why I chose my targets Night 1 I chose Red Panda cause I thought he stirred the water the least and had the least strong reads meaning scum killing him wouldn't give town info to analyze.

Night 2 I wanted to watch someone not on the twisted wagon as i figured at least one town member was not on the wagon. I chose Johog as I had a slight scum read on Kanye and I had watched Red the night before.

Night 3 I chose Red Panda cause he claimed healer as his flavour and I assumed that would mean doctor and thought scum would as well.

Night 4 I chose Peregrine V cause he was my strongest town read going into the night.
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Post Post #860 (ISO) » Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:45 am

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OK two part analysis.
First part is the interactions by Twisted with the players left.
I've included post numbers, but not links, as that takes more time than I have right now. Anyone with the time is free to quote/steal this post and link the posts.

Chair
Post 123- Could be scum
Post 372- “have trouble reading”
Post 388-responds to Chair
Post 469-responds to Chair “would vote you”
Post 471-“ I'd join a chair wagon”
Post 486-responds to Chair “blatant misrep”
Post 493-“Chair is entitled to his opinions”
Post 497-responds to Chair

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Post 123-agrees
Post 123-agrees with Parama
Post 123- not scum
Post 140-responds to Parama
Post 160- responds to Parama
Post 372- Parma or BB scum, lynch Parama first, etc.
Post 374-Parama scum if BB flip town
Post 376-Parama scum if BB town and vice versa
Post 391- Parama scum if BB flip town
Post 441-responds to Parama
Post 442-responds to Parama
Post 456-vote Parama
Post 459- “parama can claim his result but that doesn't remove the possibility of him being scum cop”
Post 469- “positive parama was scum”
Post 471-responds to Parama
Post 497-“conf.scum parama”
Post 528- “I guess it's claim time unless we're lynching parama?”
Post 539-“parama is scum”
Post 601-“ it's so obvious parama's scum”
Post 608-“parama is scum”
Post 615- “parama needs to go

Lurconis
Post 123-reponds
Post 123-agrees w/Fishy about Lurc
Post 439-responds to Lurc
Post 503-responds to Lurc
Post 561-responds to Lurc
Post 611- responds to Lurc

Zang
Post 123- “Zang never mentions me”
Post 123-Reponds to Zang
Post 123-Votes Zang
Post 126-responds to Zang
Post 160-“preferable lynch”
Post 181-perfer Zang lynch
Post 493-responds to Zang
Post 520-responds to Zang

PeregrineV
Post 160-“hasn’t caught up yet”
Post 372- “seems logical enough but it might be organised IIoA I'm mistaking for townieness in this case.”
Post 546-Peg is null/town
Post 554-responds to Pere
Post 608-peg is scum

Quotes of interest
In post 506, Twistedspoon wrote:2 watchers is different to 2 cops

although I do see where you're coming from with this double mechanic thing (even if the claim was uncalled for). Maybe it matches the psycology theme and is like a split personality theme or something. I don't know

going to sleep now. May change my vote tommorow. Still thing 2 cops is very broken though (perhaps even more so with 2 watchers)

In post 546, Twistedspoon wrote:
In post 544, Chair wrote:
@TS- can you explain why you're not scum by defending your posts? Also, reads (past the parama scum)? Also, if you want to make analysis on parama being scum, that would be nice, cause all I'm seeing right now is that BB flips town --> parama is scum, which really isn't that legitimate tbh.

panda is probtown
peg is null/town
haylen/johog leaning scum
kanye town


more later perhaps
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Post Post #861 (ISO) » Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:49 am

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The second part will be the interactions of the living players with Twisted.

Note there is not yet any analysis, just the info. Once all the info is collected, then I will provide my analysis.

If you got something, post it.

If you think you don't have anything to add, go back and re-read, then add something.

Or confess and save me lots of time/energy.
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Post Post #862 (ISO) » Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:54 am

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those interactions with me are effing hilarious the way you wrote them xD

also sorry for not being doing much recently... totally have a ton of schoolwork stuff going on atm. Boo.
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Post Post #863 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:15 am

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NOT VOTING:
( Parama Zang Lurconis PeregrineV Chair )


With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.
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, 8pm MY TIME.. . Or whenever I get around to it.


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Post Post #864 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:49 pm

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Okay, holy what.
WHAT

WHAT THE HELL GUYS

i mean yeah I'm being lazy too I guess

NO POSTS? REAALLY?

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Post Post #865 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:55 pm

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OKAY WHATEVER MASSCLAIM GO

CHAIR

YOU FIRST
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Post Post #866 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:43 am

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Champion, townsperson

popcorn to Zang.
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Post Post #867 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:37 am

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I am the Counselor, town tracker.

I'll go get my night actions if you want but I didn't reallly find anything.
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Post Post #868 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:54 am

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no, you claim all your reports

also pere you claim now

watcher/watcher/tracker/namecop/namecop vs rb/???/???

hmm.
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Post Post #869 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:41 am

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In post 867, Zang wrote:I am the Counselor, town tracker.

I'll go get my night actions if you want but I didn't reallly find anything.

Have you verified that everyone you tracked targeted who they claimed?

In post 868, Parama wrote:no, you claim all your reports

also pere you claim now

watcher/watcher/tracker/namecop/namecop vs rb/???/???

hmm.

Not popcorn, but since there's only
two
three left.

Field Marsall, cool name but otherwise VT

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Post Post #870 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:47 am

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...

uh hey
we know I claim Flavor Cop
we know Lurc claims Watcher

awesome
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Post Post #871 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:06 am

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Parama targeted Chair night 1
Lurc targeted Johhog night 2
Johhog targeted nobody night 3
RedPanda died night 4 so I got no result
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Post Post #872 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:07 am

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In post 863, camn wrote:


NOT VOTING:
( Parama Zang Lurconis PeregrineV Chair )


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Post Post #873 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:50 am

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OK, now on to the second part. Living players interactions with Twisted. My hope is to use Twisted's posts and each players posts to find connections.

For now, just the players.


Chair Interactions with Twisted

Post 45- votes Twisted, asks “In what situation would the lynch of a town member promote the town win condition? “
Post 134-“Twisted feels town”
Post 153-“not sure about Twisted”
Post 315-“wary of Twisted”
Post 323-“Twisted hasn’t posted in over two days”
Post 390-votes Twisted
Post 426-“ I'm not sure why I think Twistedspoon is scum, but I do. I'll try to figure it out later.”
Post 466-votes Twisted.” Still not entirely sure why I think he's scum, but hey, lets see where this wagon takes us. It could be an interesting ride.”
Post 477-Full monty case on why Twisted is scum
Post 496-responds to Twisted
Post 544-“TS claim just fucks with my mind, esp. fishy not being able to confirm” Asks questions of Twisted
Post 585-“The more I look at it, the more scummy TS seems tbh”
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Post Post #874 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:17 am

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Lurconis Interactions with Twisted

Post 461-votes Twisted
Post 500– “@Twisted at the end of yesterday you seemed to think the existence of two cops was a real possibility then today you voted Param without explanation, what made you change your mind?”
Post 504-responds to Twisted. Unvotes Twisted.
Post 524-“ Well I just finished rereading and Twisted is still coming up my number one suspect.”
Post 541-Happy Birthday to Twisted
Post 556- “@Twisted do you know of cases where a town inventor creates bad powers? If not why would you feel the need to protect yourself from that?”
Post 610- “making me doubt your claim further twisted.”. Votes Twisted
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