Nomic! GAME ON! (Last Update - Page 10)

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*deep breath*

Vote yay Proposition C1

Vote nay Proposition C2

(I like to be able to abstain on propositions I'm not sure about.)

Vote yay Proposition C3

Vote yay Proposition C4

Vote nay Proposition C5

Vote nay Proposition C6

Vote nay Proposition C7

Vote yay Proposition C8

Vote nay Proposition C9

unless you can define "good standing"

Vote nay Proposition C10

(people should be able to join whenever they want)
I do not vote to make B4 immutable. In fact, what is the point of this rule? Why can't you just vote nay?

Vote yay Proposition C11

Vote yay Proposition C12

Vote nay Proposition C13

(I'm not sure about this one. I think there's just too much voting needed.)

Vote yay Proposition C14

Vote yay Proposition C15

Vote yay Proposition C16

(Although the actual player's name should be in there somewhere. Or maybe a name change can be a shop item?)

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Vote yay Proposition C17

Vote yay Proposition C18

(Although I don't see why anyone would buy one of these.)

Vote yay Proposition C19

Vote yay Proposition B1

Vote yay Proposition C21

Vote yay Proposition C22

Vote nay Package 1

(I like the auction, but I don't want game elements to give extra voting power. That's like, non-democratic, and stuff.)

Vote nay Proposition C28

, unless you make it possible to opt-out of being a parliament member.

Vote nay Proposition C29

because it's meaningless.

Vote nay on B4 becoming immutable.

The rules don't say anything about explicit nay votes on mutability changes (meta-mutability?), but I'll put one in just in case.

Proposition C31: A voter may abstain on a Proposition vote by posting "Abstain Proposition [letter][number]". This has no effect on whether that Proposition passes or fails, but counts as a vote for the purposes of Rules B5, C2 and C15.

(expired on 2011-11-11 16:00:00)

edit: fixed countdown

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Yea on NS' entry

BTW CSL I think blue text should be reserved for actions you perform as a mod (like implementing a proposition), and not used for actions performed as a player (like making a proposition)

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Votes:

C20 - Yea
C21 - Nay (made redundant by C32)
Package 2 - Yea (just to be different)
C32 - Nay (to prevent posts like "Proposition blah is obviously going to pass, but I'm voting Nay to stop the creator from getting coins")
C33 - Yea
C34 - Yea
C35 - Nay
C36 - Nay
C37 - Yea
C38 - Nay
C39 - Yea (perfect information is still conserved since you can just look through the thread if you really care)
B3 - Yea
B4 - Nay (I think it's better to be explicit here)
B5 - Yea
A1 - Yea
Package 3 - Nay* (rules which can never be mutable are bad)
C40 - Nay
Package 4 - Yea
C50 - Yea
C51 - Nay
C52 - Yea
C53 - Nay (I'm fine with the idea, but an edit to an existing post is easy to make without anyone noticing.)

I think that's everything, but just in case, vote Nay to anything I missed.

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C53 - Nay (I'm fine with the idea, but an edit to an existing post is easy to make without anyone noticing.)

Noticing immediately, perhaps - but that's why votes prior to the edit don't count and why the deadline is recalculated.

Indeed, but I'd still prefer an explicit "

Change proposition blah to:

" because it's too easy for the mods to miss an edit causing massive confusion.

In fact, worse case scenario (which is unlikely but still pretty bad):
Player X makes Proposition Cn which is totally agreeable.
Moderator notices Proposition Cn and adds it to the big table of propositions.
Before anybody votes on Cn, Player X edits it to "If this passes, Player X wins".
Before the moderator logs on again, everyone votes Yea on Cn thinking it's the totally agreeable version in the outdated table.
Player X wins.

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Nay C54

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Posting to find the time

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Proposition C55: A Proposition may list one or more propositions or packages (which are currently being voted on) as prerequisites. If one a proposition's prerequisites fails, the proposition immediately fails and is deleted. If a proposition passes before one of its prerequisites passes, it will not be implemented until all of its prerequisites have passed.

(expired on 2011-11-15 14:32:00)

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Yea C57
Yea C58
Yea C59
Nay B8
Yea C60

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Nay C61

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Yea C62

Abstain on anything I haven't voted on

Currently the rules give no way for a player to remove himself from the player list, so for NS' sake:

Proposition C63: A player may leave the game by posting "/out" in bold. The player is then removed from the player list. Any votes made by the leaving player are removed. Propositions made by the leaving player which are still being voted on are

not

removed.

(expired on 2011-11-19 09:16:31)

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True. But then he "loses" and it's unable for him to rejoin.

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Nay C65
Yea C66

Seriously, if you can make propositions saying "suchandsuch loses", then this game just turns into Survivor.

I remember making a bunch of votes which aren't in ani's update. Maybe I'm just crazy. Oh well, I'll make them again.

Nay C35
Nay C36
Yea C37
Nay C38
Yea C39
Nay C40

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Also, anyone voting Yea on C65 automatically goes at the bottom of my ballot for Parliament voting.

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Finally

Nay A9 mutability

. I'd rather edit A10 to say "other rules may make the requirements for passing more strict (but not less strict)".

Also:

Proposition C67: Any proposition designed to target a single player will automatically fail if the player it targets votes Nay on it. Disputes about whether a proposition was designed to target a single player shall be resolved by Judgement.

(expired on 2011-11-15 07:56:52)

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I'll bite.

Yea C64

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Derp, Xalxe's the one who was quitting...

Yea C65

, and I take back the statement about Parliament votes.

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So, campaign time. Well actually, I don't want to be on the parliament, and there's no way to opt out, so:

If I'm elected, I promise to do everything in my power to destroy this nomic.

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Vote Yea C68

, although I sympathise with CSL.