The Children of Húrin Mafia (GREAT REVIVAL)

[Magister Ludi]

Why didn't SunandMoon's shot on espeonage night two work damn it.

[Magister Ludi]

Vote: Dekes

Yeah,... I read his iso again. His first few posts are the things setting me off.

[Herodotus]

Vote: Dekes

Yeah,... I read his iso again. His first few posts are the things setting me off.

If you want to push on Dekes at this time, you can do that - there is some latent support - but someone will need to argue for it.

[Will-o-wisp]

I'm guessing that we both have college apps. Finished my stuff for Nov 1st deadline, so expect more content from this head.

~MB

[MagnaofIllusion]

I'm very curious at the players who are unvoting a proven NEIGHBORIZOR when it isn't alignment indicative at all. If Espeonage / Smarg were scummy enough to lynch via play it makes no sense to just abandon ship based on what is effectively a VT claim.

I'll have a full catch-up later.

My latent has been deactivated. Again, no word from the MOD on what that may or may not entail.

[Will-o-wisp]

I'm very curious at the players who are unvoting a proven NEIGHBORIZOR when it isn't alignment indicative at all. If Espeonage / Smarg were scummy enough to lynch via play it makes no sense to just abandon ship based on what is effectively a VT claim.

I'll have a full catch-up later.

My latent has been deactivated. Again, no word from the MOD on what that may or may not entail.

You don't need mod confirmation. Were you originally a Suicidal Cop? Yes or No. As in when you first got your role, were you a Suicidal Cop?

Why are you so worried about the Smarg wagon when you've been calling for Sun and Moon votes *all* day?

[MagnaofIllusion]

You don't need mod confirmation. Were you originally a Suicidal Cop? Yes or No. As in when you first got your role, were you a Suicidal Cop?

Why are you so worried about the Smarg wagon when you've been calling for Sun and Moon votes *all* day?

No, Suicide Cop was an activated latent ability. My initial role I have not disclosed. I wanted Mod Confirmation because there is not indication in the description of my latent ability that it going away removes the 'Death Sentance' part of the role.

I have suspicions about the Smarg wagon because Esp was one of my non-Guilty investigation scum reads for several days now. Are you suggesting I can't have suspects outside my Guilty result?

[Will-o-wisp]

Why didn't you say that earlier? From that post it looked like you were advocating the Smarg lynch, I misinterpreted your post.

If you don't have your latent ability, any passives and actives associated with it should not affect you any longer so you technically should be in the clear.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Why didn't you say that earlier? From that post it looked like you were advocating the Smarg lynch, I misinterpreted your post.

If you don't have your latent ability, any passives and actives associated with it should not affect you any longer so you technically should be in the clear.

Look at my ISO. I called Esp scum on multiple occasions. Had I not had a Guilty Verdit (with associated Doom feature) that slot would have been brought under more pressure today. As it stands I didn't want split Town focus with my life on the line ...

The operative words there are 'should not' and 'technically'. I agree but this is Bastard so I'm not 100% assured.

[Amrun]

Esp was one of my non-Guilty investigation scum reads

You have an innocent on the slot, or no? I'm confused.

[MagnaofIllusion]

You have an innocent on the slot, or no? I'm confused.

No, I don't. I only have one investigation - you. My ability was enabled at the tail end of Day 2. I investigated you N2.

That sentance says the Esp / Smarg slot was one of the slots I have considered scum based on prior play.

Not sure what is confusing about that ...

[Amrun]

The wording was awkward. Just checking.


Not sure why the wagon has dissolved. Neighborizer claim means nothing.

[Magister Ludi]

I guess it doesn't, but it seems.... towney. I'll think about it again and then decide if I want to revote.

[Herodotus]

I'm very curious at the players who are unvoting a proven NEIGHBORIZOR when it isn't alignment indicative at all. If Espeonage / Smarg were scummy enough to lynch via play it makes no sense to just abandon ship based on what is effectively a VT claim.

It is alignment indicative.
The fact that it could be any alignment doesn't mean it isn't more likely to be a particular alignment, and the target selection that one chooses with their action will be based on their alignment.
I think the ability is more likely to be given to a townie, but the choice of Gandalf doesn't seem protown given that Gandalf probably had no role at the time.

Smargaret, could you summarize the discussion between Espeonage and Gandalf? Was it daytalk or nighttalk?

[smargaret]

Nighttalk, and there was no discussion. Gandalf made three increasingly irritated posts about why esp wasn't saying anything. He flaked completely.

[Gut]

Yeah, neighborizer claim is pretty meaningless. It's basically a VT claim except there's an in-built explanation for why scum would claim it even though they should know it won't save them (i.e. because it's true).

Vote: smargaret

[Magister Ludi]

Who are we going to ask Feysal to shoot, before I revote?

[Andrius]

Andy here. I've got alot of catchup to do thanks to being sick all weekend (thank you Panda).

<3,

-A

[Andrius]

S&M: When people asked if oyu and ooba were confirmed to each other, you unhelpfully answered "what else does mason mean? and why should i even bother checking?" But now Ludi says "reasonably sure" and you've corroborated this. Why didn't you say IN THE FIRST PLACE that your PM explicitly said he wasn't confirmed from the beginning, RATHER that you MUST BE because you're MASONS?

Ludi: Did either of you or ooba reveal in the QT what your PM said about Amrun being reasonably likely town?

MAGNA: You were the one saying not to reveal positive boons

(good word choce Mina)

but to reveal the timing of negative ones. THEN WHY did you reveal the EXACT TIME AND ROUND when you got your abilities?
The information only helps AGM.

[Amrun]

Already answered. a) When I was first asked, I was not at my computer, and it was too hard to check. b) I didn't want to cause unreasonable doubt for ooba/ML because he is soooo town.

And as for ludi's question, no, he did not.

[Amrun]

Oh and I guess I should clarify; I interpret this "masons" + "reasonably certain" to mean a typical mason with annoying wording because of bastardness. I still think it means nothing but masons.

And as I said previously, I didn't feel like asking Plum since she would just parrot back what it said anyway - or totally ignore it, as she did.

[Magister Ludi]

If Mina seraph is doing all these things, what is Alamaster doing in response?

[Magister Ludi]

ahhh the unknowables.

Vote: smargaret

[Plum]

VOTE COUNT #3.9

Sun and Moon - 5 - Empking, MagnaofIllusion, Ellibereth, Andrius, SpyreX
Empking - 1 - Will-o-wisp
smargaret -

7

- Herodotus, kanyeknowsbest, Mastermind of Sin, Sun and Moon, Furcolow, Gut, Magister Ludi
MagnaofIllusion - 1 - smargaret

Not Voting (3): Dekes, mockingjaye, Feysal

With 17 alive it will take 9 votes to lynch.

Deadline will be (expired on 2011-11-01 23:59:59)

Still looking for a Dekes replacement.

[SpyreX]

This is going swimmingly