Double Vote Mafia -Mini 1239- Over

[Christine]

I had a family emergency so I have gone out of town. Not gonna vla because its pointless. I don't mind being lynched but I am townie.

UNVOTE bvoigt. VOTE FM

[Whiskers]

There's an interesting exchange on page 15 from #353 through #357. Friend, Christine, Whiskers, and Voided talk about the likelihood of there being a cop in the game, and none of them seem to be aware that this is a vanilla game. Friend in particular is pretty sure we have a cop in the game. This is a towntell because scum generally have more need to be aware of the setup, and they will talk about it at the beginning of the game (since, in this case, they have daytalk). 3 heads are more likely to know the setup than 1.

UNVOTE: Christine and Whiskers

This is so bad. Are you always a bad player? I need to do some research on you.

Look. BECAUSE scum have Daytalk, it would be TOTALLY EASY for, (forexample,) Rainbowdash to say, "Hey, look some town idiots on't know the setup. How about you guys act like you don't either and I'll give you all massive towncred for it?"

Even if that's not the case, what keeps a scum player from intentionally dropping towntells??

[Whiskers]

Voidedmafia - 1 (killerjester)
Christine - 2 (killerjester, Nobody Special)
Robotnick2
killerjester - 1 (Whiskers)
Friend Mairsil - 3 (Voidedmafia, Whiskers, Nobody Special)
Whiskers
bvoigt - 1 (Christine)
Nobody Special - 2 (Voidedmafia, Christine)

Not voting - Friend Mairsil, bvoigt, Robotnick2

Friend Marisil is -2

VOTE : WHISKERS & CHRISTINE

VOTE: Robotnick2
VOTE: killerjester

UNVOTE bvoigt. VOTE FM

[Whiskers]

Voidedmafia - 1 (killerjester)
Christine - 3 (killerjester, Nobody Special, Friend Mairsil)
Robotnick2 - 1 (bvoigt)
killerjester - 2 (Whiskers, bvoigt)
Friend Mairsil - 4 (Voidedmafia, Whiskers, Nobody Special, Christine)
Whiskers - 1 (Friend Mairsil)
bvoigt
Nobody Special - 2 (Voidedmafia, Christine)

Not voting - bvoigt, Robotnick2

Friend Marisil is -2

YOU MUS TTELL US HOW MANY IT TAKES TO LYNCH *cry* TT_______TT

[Whiskers]

Voidedmafia - 1 (killerjester)
Christine - 3 (killerjester, Nobody Special, Friend Mairsil)
Robotnick2 - 1 (bvoigt)
killerjester - 2 (Whiskers, bvoigt)
Friend Mairsil - 4 (Voidedmafia, Whiskers, Nobody Special, Christine)
Whiskers - 1 (Friend Mairsil)
bvoigt
Nobody Special - 2 (Voidedmafia, Christine)

Not voting - bvoigt, Robotnick2

Friend Marisil is -2

YOU MUS TTELL US HOW MANY IT TAKES TO LYNCH *cry* TT_______TT

[Whiskers]

WITH EIGHT VOTES IN PLAY, IT TAKES FIVE VOTES "TO LYNCH."
FRIEND IS AT L-1.

Unvote, Unvote.

But now she is at L-2, along with Christine.

[Nobody Special]

lrn2math

[ThAdmiral]

Vote count

Voidedmafia - 1 (killerjester)
Christine - 3 (killerjester, Nobody Special, Friend Mairsil)
Robotnick2 - 1 (bvoigt)
killerjester - 1 (bvoigt)
Friend Mairsil - 3 (Voidedmafia, Nobody Special, Christine)
Whiskers - 1 (Friend Mairsil)
bvoigt
Nobody Special - 2 (Voidedmafia, Christine)

Not voting - Robotnick2, Whiskers

Friend Marisil is -2
Christine is -2

[killerjester]

@VM, mostly, you're just independently scummy. I haven't seen anything that strongly suggests you two aren't a team, either.

[Whiskers]

WITH EIGHT VOTES IN PLAY, IT TAKES FIVE VOTES "TO LYNCH."
FRIEND IS AT L-1.

Unvote, Unvote.

But now she is at L-2, along with Christine.

lrn2math

Vote count

Voidedmafia - 1 (killerjester)
Christine - 3 (killerjester, Nobody Special, Friend Mairsil)
Robotnick2 - 1 (bvoigt)
killerjester - 1 (bvoigt)
Friend Mairsil - 3 (Voidedmafia, Nobody Special, Christine)
Whiskers - 1 (Friend Mairsil)
bvoigt
Nobody Special - 2 (Voidedmafia, Christine)

Not voting - Robotnick2, Whiskers

Friend Marisil is -2
Christine is -2

U MAD, NOPONY?

[Voidedmafia]

Robotnick, NS, bv, or Whiskers are gonna have to put on the last two votes, then.

KJ: why am I, again? I know you suspected me earlier, but I'd think you'd have something more to show for it now.

[Whiskers]

I will hammer these two, if we get them at L-1. I will not put them at L-1 and wait for somepony else to mislynch.

[killerjester]

KJ: why am I, again? I know you suspected me earlier, but I'd think you'd have something more to show for it now.

PoE, slightly. In addition to the earlier stuff

[Whiskers]

The problem is that I have all of you as scum or null reads.
Null reads are often good scum.
Scum reads are often town.
Idfk.
I'm sticking with Friend Maresil, and if she's just a bad townie then she'll learn.

[Whiskers]

Nopony Special was scummy for a while-- that's this game, right? -- because he asked me that question and made a big production of it when I didn't answer. Since my ISO of him, that's all I have, he's probably my towniest read right now.
Christine was originally just for the fuckhammer, but then during this Day she's been super submissive and the whole, "look how much I'm being a good townie!" thing just curls my tail.

[Nobody Special]

Yeah, whiskers, that was this game. Seems like ages ago, huh?

Voided: Please, explain how I can vote two people that I'm

already voting?

[Whiskers]

Well, I know I keep mixing it up with another game that I think you're

not

scummy in, so I want to make sure I have them straight. I actually wrote you as a scumread in that game at somepoint, because of your actions in this game.

[Whiskers]

^Just to clear up, I don't think you're

suuuper

scummy in this game anymore, either.

[bvoigt]

There's an interesting exchange on page 15 from #353 through #357. Friend, Christine, Whiskers, and Voided talk about the likelihood of there being a cop in the game, and none of them seem to be aware that this is a vanilla game. Friend in particular is pretty sure we have a cop in the game. This is a towntell because scum generally have more need to be aware of the setup, and they will talk about it at the beginning of the game (since, in this case, they have daytalk). 3 heads are more likely to know the setup than 1.

UNVOTE: Christine and Whiskers

This is so bad. Are you always a bad player? I need to do some research on you.

Look. BECAUSE scum have Daytalk, it would be TOTALLY EASY for, (forexample,) Rainbowdash to say, "Hey, look some town idiots on't know the setup. How about you guys act like you don't either and I'll give you all massive towncred for it?"

Even if that's not the case, what keeps a scum player from intentionally dropping towntells??

That's cute, but Rainbowdash was not in the game at that time, and no one was giving them towncred at the time, so it would have seemed completely pointless for scum.

[Whiskers]

See this? This is me not caring what you think.

hahaha


@cristine - thats why theres normally a cop in the game to avoid situations like that

Doesn't say there is a cop in this game, but it's implied in her next one. Still, FM is a bona fide n00b. She doesn't put much thought into the game, saying things like, "since I will be lynched I should no longer try to help my faction" and "there is a probably a cop." Paying attention isn't really a towntell, and is

especially

not a towntell in a newbie.

Why yes, yes there is, Friend. In the meantime, I will be voting for both.

Agrees that tehre is often a cop. Doesn't say there is a cop in this game.

Hey, Filly Maresil. We don't definitely have a cop.

Why is Nopony Special not caring what I have to say funny?

I am obviously a gigantic dumbass. Now, as much as I'd like to take all this free towncred you're giving away, I'm afraid I can't, because why couldn't Friend Maresil or Christine or VoidedMafia? None of us have flipped, and you're giving us a bunch of towncred for "not paying attention"... Idk, but it doesn't seem right to me.

its more how he said it. and while we might not have one. the odds of us having one is way higher. i mean have you ever played a game without one in it, or a way to compensate for not having one? i bet even if you have they tend to be very far spaced apart.

Again, doesn't exactly say she thinks there is one, but says there usually is one. More likely is that she's trying to setup a fakeclaim later? Then again, she's a newbie, so maybe not.

its more how he said it. and while we might not have one. the odds of us having one is way higher. i mean have you ever played a game without one in it, or a way to compensate for not having one? i bet even if you have they tend to be very far spaced apart.

Meh, non-cop games can be rather common. Granted, they are more the exception, but they're not as rare as you're making them out to be.

Big long VM post about how some stuff did something. He ALSO doesn't say this game has a cop in it, just that no-cop games aren't super rare.


This really isn't such a strong towntell that you can pick out the scum from PoE.

[bvoigt]

Of course none of them explicitly said that there was for sure a cop...because none of them got a Cop role PM, and they seemed to be under the impression that it was a closed game.

Not paying attention is null; not paying attention to the setup is a towntell. Perhaps it's not a

strong

tell, but it's a towntell nonetheless.

[Whiskers]

Okay, well, it's not strong enough you can to a total PoE of these players and say, "Well, obviously, only the players who were diligent enough to read the first page are scum."

[bvoigt]

The players who did not read the first page are town =/= the players who read the first page are scum.

[killerjester]

Why did you feel this method of PoE towntell was more effective than reading the players?

[Whiskers]

The players who did not read the first page =/= town

Fixed this for you.