Mini 1243: Magician Mafia (Game Over)

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Roles and night actions coming soon; mod notes and comments coming whenever I can get to them.

[Juls]

Congrats town. I had a lot of fun this game even though we lost. The only intentionally non-townie thing we did all game was kill Vi so it was almost like you had an extra player.

[Junpei]

I have a question: If Snake and I had won the game the night before day 5, would you have considered it a fair, or earned victory? Would you say that we deserved it?

[Juls]

Who me?

[Junpei]

Well it was more of an open question for anyone to answer, so by extension, yes you.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

You are

Teller

, the American magician, illusionist, comedian, writer, and the frequently silent half of the comedy magic duo Penn & Teller, along with Penn Jillette.

Abilities:

(R)

Silence

: You may

not

post as if you were speaking in the game thread. You may post actions in the form of *shrugs*, *nods*, *burns the American flag*. You may post in pictures or other appropriate fashion you may devise as well as using your next ability to communicate with other players. You will be warned for minor violations of this restriction; force-replaced for repeated negligence of this restriction; and mod-killed for abuse of this restriction.
(P)

Partners

: You may talk at all times without restriction with your partner Penn HERE.
(P)

The Bullet Catch Trick

: A long time ago you and Penn perfected the bullet catch trick allowing you to catch a bullet fired at you in your teeth keeping you safe from harm. You can perform this illusion once and will automatically do so the first time it is appropriate.
(V)

Voter

: Each day you may submit your vote for who should be lynched. You may change your vote as often as you like until a majority has reached a decision.

Ability key:

(A) = active, (P) = passive, (R) = restriction, (T) = triggered, (O) = other, (V) = vote

Win Condition

: You win when the Magic Castle is safe from all threats.

 

You are

The Amazing Johnathan

, the American stand-up comedian/magician.

Abilities:

(P)

Amazing

: You are Amazing.
(P)

Streaking

: You have a compulsion to streak and if left unchecked on night 3 you will tear off your clothes and run around the Magic Castle naked, drawing the attention and action of every living player.
(A)

Random Things You Can Do

: You’ve got your trusty table full of props available and a collection of amusing tricks; each day you may chose two of them and PM them to me; I will inform you to some degree what each one of them does and you may use one of those two abilities that next night.
1) Psychic Tonya Dance Party
2) Drink Windex
3) Give Them a Round of Applause
4) Sometimes Magic Sounds like Tape
5) I Need a Volunteer from the Audience
6) The Chinese Linking Rings Trick
(V)

Voter

: Each day you may submit your vote for who should be lynched. You may change your vote as often as you like until a majority has reached a decision.

Ability key:

(A) = active, (P) = passive, (R) = restriction, (T) = triggered, (O) = other, (V) = vote

Win Condition

: You win when the Magic Castle is safe from all threats.

Mod Notes: 1) Roleblocks for one RL hour. 2) Cancels Streaking passive ability 3) Grant player the passive Amazing ability 4)Select player is told how many town aligned players are left in the game at this point 5) Neighborize with a player for the next day 6) Silences a chosen player for the next day
 

You are

David Blaine

, the American illusionist and endurance artist.

Abilities:

(A)

Street Magic

: Each night you may chose one player and perform your patented street magic for them distracting them from any other actions they may have planned to take that night. Your act will not work if you perform it on the same individual on consecutive nights.
(V)

Voter

: Each day you may submit your vote for who should be lynched. You may change your vote as often as you like until a majority has reached a decision.

Ability key:

(A) = active, (P) = passive, (R) = restriction, (T) = triggered, (O) = other, (V) = vote

Win Condition

: You win when the Magic Castle is safe from all threats.

 

You are

Criss Angel

, the American illusionist, stunt performer, musician, and actor.

Abilities:

(A)

That’s Amazing

: So what if you’re not very talented; you know talent when you see it so you can rip it off. Each night you may inspect a player and find out if they’re Amazing or not.
(V)

Voter

: Each day you may submit your vote for who should be lynched. You may change your vote as often as you like until a majority has reached a decision.

Ability key:

(A) = active, (P) = passive, (R) = restriction, (T) = triggered, (O) = other, (V) = vote

Win Condition

: You win when the Magic Castle is safe from all threats.

 

You are

Siegfried Fischbacher

, the German-American former entertainer.

Abilities:

(A)

Compulsive Partial Tiger Vigilante

: Each night you must direct your tiger Montecore to kill one of the players in the game. Be warned, Montecore is a very temperamental animal and given any number of factors may or may not kill your intended target or may even kill someone else.
(V)

Voter

: Each day you may submit your vote for who should be lynched. You may change your vote as often as you like until a majority has reached a decision.

Ability key:

(A) = active, (P) = passive, (R) = restriction, (T) = triggered, (O) = other, (V) = vote

Win Condition

: You win when the Magic Castle is safe from all threats.

Mod Note: If Siegfried and "Roy" send the tiger after the same target the tiger kills that player. If one of them is blocked, only one of them is alive, or they send the tiger after different targets it kills no one. If Siegfried sends the tiger after "Roy" it kills Roy. If "Roy" sends the tiger after Siegfried the it kills "Roy".
 

You are

The Amazing Kreskin

, the mentalist who became popular on North American television in the 1970s.

Abilities:

(P)

Amazing

: You are Amazing.
(V)

Voter

: Each day you may submit your vote for who should be lynched. You may change your vote as often as you like until a majority has reached a decision.

Ability key:

(A) = active, (P) = passive, (R) = restriction, (T) = triggered, (O) = other, (V) = vote

Win Condition

: You win when the Magic Castle is safe from all threats.

 

You are

Lance Burton

, the stage illusionist.

Abilities:

(V)

Voter

: Each day you may submit your vote for who should be lynched. You may change your vote as often as you like until a majority has reached a decision.

Ability key:

(A) = active, (P) = passive, (R) = restriction, (T) = triggered, (O) = other, (V) = vote

Win Condition

: You win when the Magic Castle is safe from all threats.

 

You are

Val Valentino

, the American illusionist, and actor.

Abilities:

(V)

Voter

: Each day you may submit your vote for who should be lynched. You may change your vote as often as you like until a majority has reached a decision.

Ability key:

(A) = active, (P) = passive, (R) = restriction, (T) = triggered, (O) = other, (V) = vote

Win Condition

: You win when the Magic Castle is safe from all threats.

 

You are

Cyril Takayama

, the American illusionist of Ryukyuan and French descent.

Abilities:

(V)

Voter

: Each day you may submit your vote for who should be lynched. You may change your vote as often as you like until a majority has reached a decision.

Ability key:

(A) = active, (P) = passive, (R) = restriction, (T) = triggered, (O) = other, (V) = vote

Win Condition

: You win when the Magic Castle is safe from all threats.

You are

Sylvia Browne

, the American author who describes herself as a psychic and spiritual medium.

Abilities:

(A)

Murderers

: You and your scum partners may choose to submit a kill on a player every night by PMing me the name of the player to be killed and the player doing the killing. Whoever does the kill may not use any other active abilities they have.
(P)

Communion

: You may talk at all times with your scum partners HERE.
(P)

Channel the Spirit

: To maintain the illusion necessary to overtake the Magic Castle you must constantly channel the spirit of the player below who you killed granting you access to their persona and all their abilities.

Ability key:

(A) = active, (P) = passive, (R) = restriction, (T) = triggered, (O) = other, (V) = vote

Win Condition

: You win when nothing can prevent your faction from representing a majority of the players in the game.

~~

You are

Penn Jillette

, the American magician, comedian, illusionist, juggler, bassist and writer known for his work with fellow illusionist Teller in the team Penn & Teller.

Abilities:

(P)

Partners

: You may talk at all times without restriction with your partner Teller HERE.
(P)

The Bullet Catch Trick

: A long time ago you and Teller perfected the bullet catch trick allowing you to catch a bullet fired at you in your teeth keeping you safe from harm. You can perform this illusion once and will automatically do so the first time it is appropriate.
(V)

Voter

: Each day you may submit your vote for who should be lynched. You may change your vote as often as you like until a majority has reached a decision.

Ability key:

(A) = active, (P) = passive, (R) = restriction, (T) = triggered, (O) = other, (V) = vote

Win Condition

: You win when the Magic Castle is safe from all threats.

 

You are

John Edward

, the American television personality, and a psychic medium by profession.

Abilities:

(A)

Murderers

: You and your scum partners may choose to submit a kill on a player every night by PMing me the name of the player to be killed and the player doing the killing. Whoever does the kill may not use any other active abilities they have.
(P)

Communion

: You may talk at all times with your scum partners HERE.
(P)

Channel the Spirit

: To maintain the illusion necessary to overtake the Magic Castle you must constantly channel the spirit of the player below who you killed granting you access to their persona and all their abilities.

Ability key:

(A) = active, (P) = passive, (R) = restriction, (T) = triggered, (O) = other, (V) = vote

Win Condition

: You win when nothing can prevent your faction from representing a majority of the players in the game.

~~

You are

Roy Horn

, the German-American former entertainer.

Abilities:

(A)

Compulsive Partial Tiger Vigilante

: Each night you must direct your tiger Montecore to kill one of the players in the game. Be warned, Montecore is a very temperamental animal and given any number of factors may or may not kill your intended target or may even kill someone else.
(V)

Voter

: Each day you may submit your vote for who should be lynched. You may change your vote as often as you like until a majority has reached a decision.

Ability key:

(A) = active, (P) = passive, (R) = restriction, (T) = triggered, (O) = other, (V) = vote

Win Condition

: You win when the Magic Castle is safe from all threats.

Mod Note: If Siegfried and "Roy" send the tiger after the same target the tiger kills that player. If one of them is blocked, only one of them is alive, or they send the tiger after different targets it kills no one. If Siegfried sends the tiger after "Roy" it kills Roy. If "Roy" sends the tiger after Siegfried the it kills "Roy".
 

You are

James Van Praagh

, the self-proclaimed medium who has written several books on spirituality and spirit communication.

Abilities:

(A)

Murderers

: You and your scum partners may choose to submit a kill on a player every night by PMing me the name of the player to be killed and the player doing the killing. Whoever does the kill may not use any other active abilities they have.
(A)

Divine Secrets

: Each day you may chose a player in the game and you will be informed randomly of one of their abilities.
(P)

Communion

: You may talk at all times with your scum partners HERE.
(P)

Already Dead

: You know the person below is not in the game because you killed them as part of your hostile takeover.
(V)

Voter

: Each day you may submit your vote for who should be lynched. You may change your vote as often as you like until a majority has reached a decision.

Ability key:

(A) = active, (P) = passive, (R) = restriction, (T) = triggered, (O) = other, (V) = vote

Win Condition

: You win when nothing can prevent your faction from representing a majority of the players in the game.

~~

You are

The Amazing Randi

, the Canadian-American stage magician and scientific skeptic best known as a challenger of paranormal claims and pseudoscience.

Abilities:

(P)

Amazing

: You are Amazing.
(V)

Voter

: Each day you may submit your vote for who should be lynched. You may change your vote as often as you like until a majority has reached a decision.

Ability key:

(A) = active, (P) = passive, (R) = restriction, (T) = triggered, (O) = other, (V) = vote

Win Condition

: You win when the Magic Castle is safe from all threats.

You are

Uri Gellar

, the Israeli born, self-proclaimed psychic living in England known for his trademark television performances of spoon bending and other supposed psychic effects.

Abilities:

(A)

Spoonman

: Every night you may select one player and carve out their heart with one of your beloved spoons.
(P)

Master of Metal

: Using your affinity for metal you will be able to detect and deflect bullets fired at you. However, this takes so much mental energy from you that you will only be able to perform this feat once.
(P)

Mental Immunity

: All investigations of you will return town and all investigations of your abilities will only return your voting ability.
(P)

Already Dead

: You know the person below is not in the game because you killed them as part of your hostile takeover.
(V)

Voter

: Each day you may submit your vote for who should be lynched. You may change your vote as often as you like until a majority has reached a decision.

Ability key:

(A) = active, (P) = passive, (R) = restriction, (T) = triggered, (O) = other, (V) = vote

Win Condition

: You win when you and one or fewer other players are alive.

~~

You are

David Copperfield

, the American illusionist, described by Forbes in 2006 as the most commercially successful magician in history.

Abilities:

(V)

Voter

: Each day you may submit your vote for who should be lynched. You may change your vote as often as you like until a majority has reached a decision.

Ability key:

(A) = active, (P) = passive, (R) = restriction, (T) = triggered, (O) = other, (V) = vote

Win Condition

: You win when the Magic Castle is safe from all threats.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

D1 Actions:

Locke Lamora Role Cop: 4nxi3ty -> Voter
ace5993: Select Drink Windex / I Need a Volunteer from the Audience
springlullaby LYNCHED

N1 Actions:

Fishythefish Roleblock: 4nxiety
Saulres Vig: sottyrulez
Junpei Vig: Fishythe fish
Vig Fails
Riggs Kill: Crab Canon (No kill uses 1-shot BP)
Crab Canon Kill: sottyrulez
ace5993 Use "I Need a Volunteer from the Audience": Vi
sottyrulez Investigate: ace5993 (Amazing but No Result due to death)

D2 Actions:

ace5993: Select Sometimes Magic…/Chinese Linking Rings
Riggs LYNCHED

N2 Actions:

Fishythefish Roleblock: saulres
Saulres Vig: ace5993
Junpei Vig: Crab Canon
Vig Fails
Snake Kill: Vi (No kill uses 1-shot BP)
Crab Canon No Kill
ace5993 Use “Sometimes Magic…”: Vi

D3 Actions:

Snake Role Cop: Amrun -> Amazing
ace5993: Select Drink Windex / Give Round of Applause
Fishythefish LYNCHED

N3 Actions:

ace5993 Use “Drink Windex”
Saulres Vig: 4nxiety
Junpei Vig: Amrun
Vig Fails
Snake Kill: ace5993
Crab Canon Kill: Vi

D4 Actions:

Snake Role Cop: Luxury-> Voter
4nxi3ty LYNCHED

N4 Actions:

Saulres Vig: Luxury
Junpei Vig: Luxury
Luxury Vigged
Snake Kill: Crab Canon
Crab Canon Kill: Junpei

D5 Actions:

Snake LYNCHED
Town Wins!

[Juls]

You didn't get lynched and there wasn't any role technicalities to stop your lynch so sure, if you had won it would have been fair and earned. Locke/Snake lurked a lot but people know that scum lurk so ignoring it was not ideal for town. Town also made some bad choices. The Anxiety and springlullaby lynches were particularly bad. I don't complain too much if scum or town win unless they back into it (like if the town just played really dumb and you benefited from it). That wasn't the case here.

Now, I want to know why we were targetted the first time (and was it N1 or N2?).

[Juls]

Oh and I want the mafia QT.

[Juls]

Our QT by the way: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/y6Du3qErDWRn

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Mafia QT
Penn & Teller QT
Amazing Johnathan's D2 QT w. Vi
Dead QT

I encourage any hydras that had QTs to release them as well, but I'm not requiring it.

[Junpei]

http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/e7rQaefXDmk

Here's the mafia QT.

I can't remember why I shot you night 2, I'll look it up in my notes though, I think that I thought you were a PR. Gonna check right now.

pedit: or that.

[Junpei]

Oh, I remember now. I used PoE, and tried to keep players who were not too variable in the game and didn't seem as dangerous. Your hydra was a fine candidate.

Vigged you later to push the kill through, but the vig didn't work out.

[Sotty7]

Yay go saulres!

I was feeling pretty crappy about our play after we were killed but it actually turned out we had pretty good reads. No worse than normal at least. I do feel there was a real clash between the newer players and older players in this game as well. Each group finds different things scummy and I got frustrated when no one seemed willing to at least discuss the differences without deciding we were scummy for it.

We have a QT that's pretty short and just ends up being a place where we word out our posts. If Zach wants to post it, I'll let him.

[SnakePlissken]

I just wish I'd shot Saulres now. Ah well. Oh any of you looking for another game my Ghostbusters game is in signups.

I actually find it hard when replacing in as scum, to figure out the predecessors motivations, so it's quite hard to formulate opinions either way.

[Juls]

I think Saulres grew a lot during this game. As I said in the QT, I think he should just learn to filter out some of the theories. It's going to be hard if he gets a scum draw to fake the same activity too. I definitely think he should keep playing too. Anxiety, is another story. I don't want to come off mean or rude because that is not my intention here but some real words of advise to you is to don't have a pity party if someone suspects you. Don't shut down and not answer questions. Don't threaten to lose the game for your team. If you aren't willing to play the game WITH others then you don't need to play. Just an observation. Again, I don't want it to seem rude. I was legitimately irritated during the game about these things.

[Junpei]

I'm going to also say that Saulres should consider staying to play here, as he is someone that I would much enjoy playing with in the future. Perhaps too much setup speculation (it was the speculation that allowed scum to almost win day 4), but he is definitely a good player and shouldn't quit because he lost his motivation in this game. I would be sad, anyway, if he did.

Saulres for this games' Town MVP, easily.

[4nxi3ty]

@juls

you are not being rude or mean, your perspective is definitely legitimate and understandable. i have a tendency to play anti-town and i did get carried away at times. my joke about self-hammering was in response to you saying i would fuck up lylo; i realize now it was an overreaction. as i am still learning what is acceptable play in mafia thank you for taking the time to bring this to my attention. i am sorry if this detracted from the game.

[Sotty7]

As long as you learn from this game and use it to play better when you play again, it's all good.

I'll join the campaign calling for saulres to keep playing. His improvement in this game alone was a good thing to witness.

[VP Baltar]

Already said it once, but thanks again for modding, DDD. I'm glad I delayed my mafia break (again) for this game. The setup was really well put together and everything seemed to operate just as you had planned. That's the sign of great moderation, imo.

Thanks to everyone on the player list too. I enjoyed playing with everyone in this game, though I probably would have been a little more frustrated at times if I was actually town. Congrats on the victory town.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Great game everyone

Also, I loved the flavor DDD

[Zachrulez]

Our quicktopic is pretty boring. I don't really see any sense in posting it.

*Shakes fist at VP*

[Juls]

Oh and Vi, I absolutely loved your post restriction. I know it was annoying and you couldn't communicate for shit but it was so fun to read.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Thanks for the compliments, folks. I was aiming for a potentially swingy but balanced and fun game and I think this mostly delivered.

I'm just glad the cadre of minor flaws and the one larger flaw didn't come into play at all. As you can tell I didn't include the names of partners in the neighbors or scum PMs or the mafia kill flavor in their PMs which I was quick to rectify once I realized both facts. I also implied that the SK would receive notification when their BP ability went off which I didn't intend to do and had to tell them that much. More importantly Junpei wasn't allowed to make the scum kill which wasn't intentional and was more a legacy of an earlier design and it could've had serious issues if he had been the one in LYLO because in a 1 v 1 he can't NK and there's no possible lynch there which means scum can't get a majority but town couldn't eliminate all the threats to the town. I probably would've called the game in favor of scum at that point but I'm glad it didn't come down to it.

I enjoyed watching the game progress and I think it was a decent blend of older and newer players and luckily the older players aren't the arrogant sort that I detest so that while their were clashes about play style it never got out of hand or obnoxious. I'm not sure why saulres is considering retiring from the game (which is a funny concept anyways) because he certainly has a fair amount of potential. The town was on the right track on D1 in that they lynched a lurker in SL, the only problem is that they lynched the town lurker and not either of the scum ones in LL or GNR. I'm also still not sure why N2 went the way it did with scum shooting into the player they knew was BP and the SK deciding not to kill that night, it became even more odd when scum didn't follow up shooting into the then no longer BP player they'd just shot the next night. To answer Junpei's question; I wouldn't have objected if the mafia had won N4 not because the mafia had played well to that point but that the town hadn't really done anything to deserve the win; they'd lynched the one lurker but never really threatened the other and no one other than Amrun was really that interested in lynching you and the town had mislynched three times already.

[Amrun]

Man, it was satisfying to see that Junpei flip.

What did the Amazing passive do? I must know!!!!



I totally agree with Juls about both Anxiety and Saulres. I'd be happy to play with both again.

Anxiety, you really frustrated me a couple of times during the game, but as long as you laern from that, it's fine. Everyone has those compulsions occasionally.

Saulres, why are you quitting?! I've played with you both times and enjoyed it both times! You are improving at a very rapid pace and I'd love to see how good you can get. You did a really good job this game!