In post 157, Sotty7 wrote:You're really reaching xvart.
How many posts have to happen before people are allowed for form reads?
It's not about the number of posts. It is solely about the context of those posts and the events that transpired afterwards. Let us look at the posts in question. There are only two so it will be easy. Jason's first post:
In post 5, jasonT1981 wrote:hello, everyone!
vote:xvart
for being the first persons name I saw when closing my eyes, and opening them again with player list in front of me!
No game related content at all. Pure RVS post and therefore unable to get any information about alignment (unless there is some meta of which I am unaware; but I think that would have been brought up by now).
Your post, five posts later:
You recently said that you had a gut read on Jason based on his one post. However, at the time of this post there was no publicly available information to suggest anything you had a gut scum read on Jason. Certainly not in the next five posts when Quilford claimed you town for your only post in the game which contained nothing other than a vote:
In post 15, Quilford wrote:Anyway, here's the reads: Jason, scummy; lewarcher82, townish; KK, null; Sotty7, townish; VPB, null with a twist of scum.
So my point is that Quilford had absolutely no way to discern your alignment since the only thing you had said is "vote: jason". Then he went on to delay providing his explanation to VP, produced several other reads without providing explanation for your read, then came back and finally said "Sotty is town because she voted for Jason." Again, no available information to determine your alignment based on your one post; plus the delay of producing such an easy explanation.
And my reference to post size or word count or whatever can easily be summed up by looking at Quilford's posts in question:
Compared to the easy explanation:
The delay was because he called you town for no reason, got called out for it, and then had to fabricate some explanation since VP had been persistent about getting that read explanation. Otherwise, he would have said "Sotty is town for voting Jason. Instant town points" the first time around plus the added benefit that he came back to "explain" why he would be absent after VP voted him. Even the explanation he finally gave is questionable in terms of motive.
I'm sad to see that this has somehow been misconstrued into a xvart vs. Sotty debate because I have no opinion of your alignment either way at this juncture. At this point, without evidence to the contrary, I would be more likely to think that he called you town like that because he was scum buddying town because I don't see the benefit of scum buddying scum in the first 15 posts of the game.
I think this question is ridiculous as I don't see anyone having two pets and there has been no evidence to suggest otherwise (except for maybe the Roxi voter).
In post 170, jasonT1981 wrote:I do think like Sotty said, Xvert is reaching. Many people post early reads (gut or otherwise) saying X is town, Y is scum just from the RVS and the fact he seems set on pushing Quil and Sotty on this is strange. I am keeping my vote on for now until he starts making sense and stops tunnelling this issue.
I'm not pushing Sotty as being scum. The only thing that I can see at this point is that might indicate that she is scum is because she got drawn into this by being the target of Quilford's unexplained town read, which I am slightly inclined to believe makes her town pending Quilford's scum flip.
In post 176, glowball wrote: In post 175, lewarcher82 wrote: In post 174, glowball wrote:You're killing players based on whether the animal is a dog or a cat. I'd hope all of the scum weren't cats, that'd be a pretty silly set up.
and? who said all scum are cats???
NO ONE! That is the problem
Didn't you say that if you investigate a player and they are a cat, they die? How is that helpful to town, unless cats are scum? It's not, you'll just be killing off townies that have cats.
This is starting to sound more like a third party role of "kill X number of cats and you win". I'm trying to remember some MD thread I saw zoraster posting in about different roles or modified role usage because he may have thrown a few of those tweaked roles in. I'll see if I can find it because I think a modified SK/modified lyncher was discussed.
