Open 347: White Flag Mafia (Game Over)

[Fruit Basket]

pidgey is a bad wagon, she looks pretty fucking town to me

think its all of it ^_^ ^^

[Fruit Basket]

think its all of it ^_^ ^^

yeah, this was to ts' question. all of it. she barely did a fucking thing to get a cp wagon day one and now she's faking anguish about being unable to let her scumread go.

[Morthas]

Day 2 Votecount the Third

Amrun

- Fruit Basket, SleepyKrew L-4

Twistedspoon

- bvoigt L-5

jerobbo

- Quilford, ScreamingHawk, L-4

fruit basket

- Amrun, jerobbo L-4

pidgey

: - Equinox L-5

fatlikepig

: - Twistedspoon, pidgey L-4

Not Voting:

- fatlikepig,


With 11 Alive - 6 to lynch

Day 2 deadline: Sunday, 20th of November

V / LA until Saturday - ScreamingHawk
V/LA until Sunday, hopefully less - SleepyKrew

[Equinox]

If I find you on two myslynch wagons equinox then I'm seriously going to consider you D3

*stares at Twistedspoon*

so you'd find a player who had a hand in lynching 2 townies not suspicious at all?

No, I'd want to find out what part they had in those two mislynches. Let me ask you something, Twistedspoon. Now that you've basically threatened me to be right or die, let's suppose we mislynch today, and I'm not on the wagon. I've deftly avoided the lynching wagon to join some other one. What would you think of me then?

Equi. Do you think I'm claiming scum because I say scum can missunderstand the setup too and then I say I missunderstood it?

Yes. The entirety of the tell is that scum are going to be more aware of the setup than town are because, in this setup, they have a handicap. You come in, talk of why scum can misunderstand the setup, using... yourself as an example.

Yeah, no.

pidgey is a bad wagon, she looks pretty fucking town to me

Use more words.

[pidgey]

Uhhhhhhh

I cant understand your bad logic but ok.

[Equinox]

"Bad logic"?

...okay.

[pidgey]

How exacty is that a scum tell again?

[pidgey]

So you are basically saying that i went

"mmmm so i missunderstood the setup as scum, and these guys missunderstood it too and people say they are town, so i must say it is a null tell, because i, the scum, was confused too".

Missunderstanding something is a null tell. It can be faked. It can be a confusion as scum. It can be confusion as town. But whatever, we've been going 2 pages with this and i rather look for scum like fat.

[Twistedspoon]

If I find you on two myslynch wagons equinox then I'm seriously going to consider you D3

*stares at Twistedspoon*

so you'd find a player who had a hand in lynching 2 townies not suspicious at all?

No, I'd want to find out what part they had in those two mislynches. Let me ask you something, Twistedspoon. Now that you've basically threatened me to be right or die, let's suppose we mislynch today, and I'm not on the wagon. I've deftly avoided the lynching wagon to join some other one. What would you think of me then?

wowzers.
not right or die. not that at all
It's more a matter of if you lynch town again then I'll review you again and not see you as town as I think you now.
Not sure I understand your question. If you don't lynch town again, I'm happy for now.

[Equinox]

Hmm.

So you are basically saying that i went

"mmmm so i missunderstood the setup as scum, and these guys missunderstood it too and people say they are town, so i must say it is a null tell, because i, the scum, was confused too".

Missunderstanding something is a null tell. It can be faked. It can be a confusion as scum. It can be confusion as town. But whatever, we've been going 2 pages with this and i rather look for scum like fat.

This doesn't sound like a scum reaction.

Let me think a bit.

[fatlikepig]

But whatever, we've been going 2 pages with this and i rather look for scum like fat.

Make a case and come at me, bro.

[Equinox]

It's more a matter of if you lynch town again then I'll review you again and not see you as town as I think you now.
Not sure I understand your question. If you don't lynch town again, I'm happy for now.

Okay, that's fair. Let me rephrase my question. Suppose we have a mislynch today, but I did not participate in the lynch. What would you think then?

[Fruit Basket]

more words? okay. only because you asked nicely

I think the reason your voting him is fairly weak. It's probably a stance he'd take regardless of alignment, the fact that slips shouldn't confirm people as town/scum (I disagree but w/e, it doesn't look like he's trying to 'undermine' confirmed townies or anything, at least. Are you trying to say it's some sort of slip, that him bringing his lack of knowledge up as a scumslip almost? I don't really see it like that, I don't know.

What do you think of his play aside from that? He looks reasonably good to me, I thought his first post looked fairly sincere and he seems to be trying to work things out.

[Equinox]

I wasn't voting him for his stance; I was voting him because I thought I saw him slipping. His reaction just now doesn't look like caught scum, though.

What do you think of his play aside from that? He looks reasonably good to me, I thought his first post looked fairly sincere and he seems to be trying to work things out.

Aside from the whole issue with the possibly-not-slip, he's looked sincere. Post 957 looks sincere, too, so... bleh? I don't know.

Unvote

[SleepyKrew]

SleepyKrew, what is your read of Twistedspoon? What do you think of Twistedspoon using meta to defend Nobody Special toward the end of Day 1?

Null.
I didn't like it, because I was using meta against NS instead. I'll have to see if I simply suck at metaing (again) or if NS played against his meta this game.

Why ask me this?

[SleepyKrew]

Dear lord why are there still only two votes on Amrun.
Fucking people.

[Amrun]

Well, to be fair to the others, not only am I town, but you've failed to provide any passable reasons as to why they should be voting me.

[SleepyKrew]

I can get AtE and lying just from your last post alone.

[Equinox]

Null.
I didn't like it, because I was using meta against NS instead. I'll have to see if I simply suck at metaing (again) or if NS played against his meta this game.

Why ask me this?

Because I'm trying to figure out how you, me, and Twistedspoon disagreed on Nobody Special's meta and didn't come out with a fireworks display. I can understand people settling to agree to disagree when both sides have presented evidence and neither side wants to budge, but this was weird. From what I can remember, Twistedspoon didn't cite any specific games for his Nobody Special meta; like me, he just stated that "Nobody Special does X when he's town," and you didn't prod him for it.

[Equinox]

I need 6 people to tell me they're going to lynch me unless I methodically run down all 39 pages of this thread by Friday evening PST.

Seriously. I'm running in circles at this point, and it looks like I'm going to be useless until I actually sit down and reread this thread in light of flip.

[Amrun]

I'LL DO IT EQUINOX

I WILL

[SleepyKrew]

I normally tend to try a bit less harder when things are going my way. While I did continually remind people that his meta pointed towards him being scum, I didn't really try to convince you or TS because his lynch was almost guaranteed.
Now vote Amrun pretty pretty pweez :3

PEDIT: ILL DO IT TO AND OH LOOK AMRUN IS IGNORING MY LATEST POINTS AGAINST HER SHES SCUM

[Amrun]

...Uh. What points. lol

[SleepyKrew]

Well, to be fair to the others, not only am I town, but you've failed to provide any passable reasons as to why they should be voting me.

I can get AtE and lying just from your last post alone.

[Amrun]

SKrew, you know I like you, but that is not a case, and those points in this context are not "passable reasons" or even close to this.