Animal Rescue: petsPick (Game Over!)

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Grrr

Governate:

lewarcher

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

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Got a town (and rather uncomplimentary) read on Amrun, probably my strongest read so far (well about equal with lew-scum) but definitely not one where I'd sheep behind her.

[Vi]

Sotty7 and DDD have great words to say.

I think UT is probably Town too.

[VP Baltar]

holy scumbags, catman. You guys post a lot while I sleep.

That should stop. (Amrun) If you think he's scum, then just freaking lynch him. We don't need to speculate and try to control a scumbag as a weapon. SCUM LIE. It's what they do to survive. I really hate that you sit there and call him scum and then take his word on everything as if he's being honest. That's just dumb, as you put it.

I think death just needs to keep raining down on lewarcher regardless of whatever CES is doing. If he's going to stop it, he'll stop it. If he doesn't, WALP lynched scum. Onward and upward. We're at 17 pages and it's quickly getting into drivel territory. I just read 5+ pages of nonsense to start my day, for example.

I like UT for town right now. He's got the same swagger I saw in [redacted].

xRx seems to have lost the fire in his belly, though I assume that's just from being tired of waiting for this lynch to happen.

Jason's last post makes me want to burn his eyes out with a hot poker.

[VP Baltar]

DDD, thoughts on Quilford and Llama?

[VP Baltar]

Also, Sotty, you should throw that hammer today. I know you don't think lew is worth leaving alive. We'll get Llama tomorrow.

[Sotty7]

Hammer is in hand.

BUT... I kinda wanna see if Lew comes back and even tries to defend himself with half the intensity Amrun did.

[VP Baltar]

Yeah, I'd hopefully like to hear from DDD and Jason once more before the day is out. Just annoyed I had to read 5 pages of crap and would like to end this day before we get 10 more of the same setup/bad motivation spec.

[jasonT1981]

Like wise, didn't expect to come back to so much. Had to take a V/LA sorry, reluctant so say full reasons, but there was a family emergency. Doing a catch up now I am home once I get dinner finished up.

[Llamarble]

VPB is probably town.
"Something in my role suggests X is lying" usually comes from town.

[xRECKONERx]

Yeah, I've no fire for this game (or most games recently). I hope I'm not getting burned out

[Llamarble]

Also, this is petsPick!

Tell me about your actual pets, no details of course. Just sharing, I'll go first. I have a puppy she's about 1.5 years and I LOVE HER she is fluffy and adorable!

This is a terrible idea. This equates you claiming a fluffy and adorable puppy. How is it possible that you do not realise this? And besides, this is fishing. Say that someone tells you that his dog is a German Shepherd who can find anything when he follows his nose. You will just assume that this person is likely a cop. Now I am forced to wonder which one is the explanation of your behaviour. (1) Reckless town - who just won the "VI of the game" trophy despite quil's efforts or (2) fishy scum.

You know, if Lew has the role he's claimed as scum, the obvious motive to last a night is so that he can shoot a town player who would obviously have picked a cat such as, say, Amrun.
In which case leaving his lynch a day has the significant negative of giving scum an extra kill.
Lewarcher has consistently just tried not to get lynched instead of finding scum.
Time to sort everybody into towniness categories!

[Llamarble]

Oh I forgot to explain why I quoted that. He talks about the role-aspect as opposed to the fact that species might matter. I found that a little weird.

[VP Baltar]

VPB is probably town.
"Something in my role suggests X is lying" usually comes from town.

Thanks for putting that target on my back. 'preciate it.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

DDD, thoughts on Quilford and Llama?

Don't know how to read Quilford but wouldn't mind seeing him dead because he's often a derp. Seems very taken with setup spec and role possibility which I always think are dead ends. Further, anyone who knows their meta knows how to play with and against it for effect so his attempts to rationalize his behavior early are pointless. Right now I'm trying to figure out his motivation for getting off the lew wagon when he did; I suspect it's because of the "governing" because he still seems to think lew is anti-town after that which certainly bothers me.

Superficially llamamarble promised analysis he didn't deliver; his stance on the vig thing is correct, but he also spends alot of time talking up points that I think are uselessly speculative as well (e.g. Assassin as an anti-town word) and then calls out Rec for setup spec which he calls a scumtell but justified in this case? I have no idea why he's voting Quilford either; he's just a mess of inconsistent play. Which frankly wouldn't worry me if I didn't think he was a better player than that so again I'm looking for an ulterior motive that I'm not sure of.

They both belong in the "doing bad things, questionable motives" category which means they need to be watched closely to see if any patterns develop.

[Sotty7]

Llama, without referring to the role claim, do you think Lew is scum?

[Amrun]

You know, if Lew has the role he's claimed as scum, the obvious motive to last a night is so that he can shoot a town player who would obviously have picked a cat such as, say, Amrun.

Why would you feel the need to say this? It's not obvious at all; people with cat avatars can all have sorts of pets, and I am a general animal lover rather than a specific cat lover.

But more than this, there is no one else here except maybe the mod, zoraster, who might be thought of as "obviously" picking a cat.

So you're bringing this up for no reason and I can see no pro-town motivation for it.

Scum feelings back.

Also, I don't care if you all agree with my stance on the lew issue or not.

[Llamarble]

The main thing I don't like is how little effort Lewarcher has made to find scum during this whole business.
Just "the thing VI is doing is scummy" as opposed to "VI is scummy."
And in that same post where he votes Vi he says Vi can be the one to choose who he confirms himself on. WTF is that.

I can make all kinds of cases against him, but some of the things he's said make me worry he might flip town.

[Sotty7]

Are you willing to hammer him?

[Llamarble]

I did think it was a little bit town that he said "I think one of these two things is the case," then 50 minutes later picked one.
And the "my action served the sole purpose of attracting more votes" thing is often from town.
And some of his 'be honest, this is BS" stuff.
Though 'kick VI's ass for getting a PR lynched this way" sounds like he thinks VI is town...

Bllaah

[Sotty7]

This is ridiculous. Why are you not answering any of my questions?

I'm being trolled, right?

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

[Sotty7]

[Llamarble]

Don't like Quilford "Pretty sure glowball is scum if lewarcher is scum."
Quilford's overall approach feels town though. My vote isn't placed well. FIXFIXFIX

I LOVE CAFFEINE

p. edit:
I'll hammer him if I can really really convince myself he's scum.

[Llamarble]

VOTE: DDDP
Yay I'm voting scum now!