NY 142: Rolling in the Deep, WAIT WAT? PARTY OVER?!


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Post Post #2425 (ISO) » Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:03 pm

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And I've been "powerlurking" because I've been A. incredibly busy for the past week, and B., because I'm still trying to reread the game for signs of different scumminess, given that I thought Hiraki was defscum.

If you're going to vote someone, explain yourself.


Pine, you have Vel and Funky as two of yourscumreads, they are both on my wagon. You are urging SV to get shot by the vig, yet he's on my wagon as well.


You think the entire scumteam is going to bus someone like me? come on.
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Post Post #2426 (ISO) » Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:29 pm

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I dropped Vel back to null a while ago, and SV is...something. Obstinately unreadable. And obstinately and
intentionally
unreadable is a perfect vig shot, or cop investigate, or whatever. So of the three you named, only Funky is a solid scumread, bro. Add in your buddy Vijay, and you've got only two people I'm highly suspicious of bussing you, which makes a great deal of sense. Plus, your other buddy theam is publicly running in circles over whether or not to bus you himself. I think he was going to, but then vijay and Funky jumped on, and now he doesn't want a full third of the lynch to be scum vs scum.

Besides, I'm comforted by the fact that some of my strongest Town reads agree with me on you. Bvoigt and sorgster are both on board, and if Beck were to pull his head out of his ass and remember all of the many reason he was cheering for your death, he'd be in on this too. For all you and Beck prate about how scummy the wagon is on you, it's also remarkably Towny. And wouldn't you know? Most of the Towny ones were the ones who initiated the wagon in the first place. Blame your mates in the dead thread, Chief.
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Post Post #2427 (ISO) » Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:29 pm

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"...bus someone like me" sounds like a scum PR, now that I look at it again.
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Post Post #2428 (ISO) » Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:51 pm

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In post 2421, Beck wrote:Hey sorg, care to explain what went on in your mind between 2358 when you voted pine to 2371 when you joined pine's push and voted rev?

I have my own theory but I will wait for you to comment first.

btw guys, sadly as much as I want rev lynched, this lynch seems very bad.

also theamateur looks bad because of his stance on the wagon and he keeps wanting rev to explain himself. This is either coaching his partner or he is trying to look like the good guy so day 3 if rev flips town, he can use his lurking as an excuse.

sad to say but I am against a rev lynch today.

I think we learn much more with a Pine, Sorg, or theAm lynch than we do with a rev lynch.


Beck I don't understand you. You say you want Rev lynched, yet its a bad lynch lynch? And what happened to "rev has been lurking hard, you found him scummy day 1, etc"?
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Post Post #2429 (ISO) » Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:11 pm

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Pine, if there are two scum teams (which, I don't know WHY town would speculate on this, because only scum wonder where extra shots come from if it weren't theres), then if two people on a scumteam are bussing me, that would be the entire scumteam.
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Post Post #2430 (ISO) » Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:16 pm

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My speculation had nothing to do with the night kills at first, it stems from the fact that chk
added
flavor some time between the start of the game and the start of Day Two. I noticed it, saw a glaring reference to two gangs, and suddenly the number of probable scum jumped from 4-6ish to upwards of nine or ten possible scum. That's a
hugely
important fact for Town to consider, and of course the best evidence for us to consider when trying to figure out the number of teams is night kills. To say Town never questions an unexpected number of night kills is laughable to the point of sounding desperate. Flail more.
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Post Post #2431 (ISO) » Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:18 pm

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Oh, and by the way? Two scumteams of three (using your numbers there, by the way, and thanks for the tip) means that scum like vijay and Funky can quite happily jump onto your lynch without it being bussing at all. They're simply trying to eliminate the competition.
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Post Post #2432 (ISO) » Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:23 pm

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Town doesn't question an unexpected number of night kills by assuming that there's two scum teams.
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Post Post #2433 (ISO) » Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:21 pm

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In post 0, chkflip wrote:
Rolling In The Deep


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That woman sure can keep a tune, can't she? Enough to blare on this radio. Just a small boombox in the middle of the poor, nearly desolated streets of Rollin Heights. The violence these streets have seen has gone up two-hundred percent according to the Sherriff's annual report, but who reads those anymore anyway? It doesn't seem to make a difference whether or not the county police show up or not these days. This is why we can't have nice things.

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The main problem was the Mean Guys Mafia clashing against the "turf" of the Rollin Heights Gang.
Many nights have been lit by their gunfire, sometimes in directions that don't even make sense. Some have revolted the government. Some have picked up their own weapons. In this two block radius lived twenty-two neighbors; unfortunately, they all found themselves at the church holding a meeting only to find themselves right in the middle.

BANG!
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It's going to be a long day...



The Living:

01. sorgster
02. ThAdmiral
03. Velzanath
DavidParker**

04. theamatuer
05. Lurconis
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06. Maxous
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The Removed:

16.
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The Count:

Check the big, bold, italicized, underlined part, jackass. THAT'S what made me suspect multiple scumteams, and I've said so at least three times.
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Post Post #2434 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:52 am

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In post 2248, sorgster wrote:theam
zdenek
revenus in one team

pine and 2 others in the other team.


That's the answer to that question beck
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Post Post #2435 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:52 am

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That was the response to another question to who I thought was scum btw.
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Post Post #2436 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:51 am

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Vijay, I just explained why I think it is bad. But I did miss the thing pine pointed out about 2 scum teams.

So SV, pine, rev, sorg, bvoigt, theam can all be scum but not together. This makes sense I guess.

Tomorrow without a doubt we are powerlynching pine or SV unless each scum team wants to take the other out.
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Post Post #2437 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:12 am

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vote count please
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Post Post #2438 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:36 am

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If there are in fact 2 scum teams, that explains why the Rev wagon has formed relatively easily.

Also, if we do have 2 teams, I would expect them to be groups of 4. I was in a 16-player game with 2 teams of 3.
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Post Post #2439 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:04 am

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I doubt there is going to be 2 groups of 8, that throws the ratio of the game off balance making this near impossible for town to win.
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Post Post #2440 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:13 am

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That game had 37.5% scum. If this game has 8 scum, it would be 36.4%. I'm not saying the first game was totally balanced, but two groups of 3 doesn't seem like enough for 22 players.
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Post Post #2441 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:15 am

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So wait....
Rev is trying to say there isnt two scumteams, yet says the entire scumteam is on him, and there has to be 2 scumteams in order to have the whole scumteam around him?
Its just whatever
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Post Post #2442 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:21 am

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Are you bussing or are you in the other team theam?
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Post Post #2443 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:54 am

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neither
Its just whatever
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Post Post #2444 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:37 am

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In post 2437, Beck wrote:
vote count please


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Post Post #2445 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:13 am

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In post 2429, Revenus wrote:Pine, if there are two scum teams (which, I don't know WHY town would speculate on this, because only scum wonder where extra shots come from if it weren't theres), then if two people on a scumteam are bussing me, that would be the entire scumteam.


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Post Post #2446 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:57 am

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iam, how can you be so bad when your replacement was so good
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Post Post #2447 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:57 am

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In post 2441, theamatuer wrote:So wait....
Rev is trying to say there isnt two scumteams, yet says the entire scumteam is on him, and there has to be 2 scumteams in order to have the whole scumteam around him?



I was humoring Pine's scenario.
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Post Post #2448 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:58 am

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and theam is very scummy and is an acceptable lynch as well.
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Post Post #2449 (ISO) » Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:02 am

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he's been playing like he knows everyone's alignment

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