Secret Society Mafia - Game Over

[Wraith]

Seriously, can someone explain how that post of DX's could in any way be interpreted as showing insider knowledge? It completely escapes me.

1. It doesn't. I think GW is trying to say that DX knew Max was a roleblocker before he claimed, despite that post coming after Maxous was outed.

2. David actually does have insider knowledge, because he has been revealed as part of a secret society already.

3. I don't know why GW is trying to portray David as Maxous's buddy, because that's simply not possible. David is confirmed not-wolf.

What does strike me as insider knowledge is this pair of posts:

Who did you roleblock last night, and (given that there was only one kill), why didn't you reveal it immediately?

And you revealed this...why?
Seriously.

I roleblocked BBmolla.
And yeah, it slightly increased my suspicion, but it's not as if there are'nt any other numerous reasons a kill would of been prevented.
It was nothing worth claiming for.

I might be missing the context here, but judging by the reaction from Maxous he didn't say anything about being a roleblocker before TT outed him.

FoS: ToastyToast

[Magua]

Vote Count 4.4

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

David Xanatos (5): StefanB, Empking's Alt, Global Warming, BBmolla, Ghostlin
Otolia (2): sorgster, Dry-fit
The Fonz (1): Bogre
Oversoul (1): PeregrineV
PeregrineV (1): Yosarian2
Dry-fit (1): The Fonz
sorgster (1): Wraith

Not voting (5): whispersilk, Otolia, Oversoul, ToastyToast, David Xanatos

Deadline is November 18th, at 7:00pm EST.
Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2011-11-18 19:00:00)

[Ghostlin]

Also, David, if you want to prove your town cred once and for all, could you be useful like create your reads and, I don't know...vote?

Everyone on this list needs to have votes placed: Not voting (5): whispersilk, Otolia, Oversoul, ToastyToast, David Xanatos

C'mon, kids, you've got to have a few scum suspects left at the Day 4 juncture.

[StefanB]

I looked at the waggons, not much I can do with it but:

Never voted for Werewolf:
BBmolla (confirmed non wolf)
Wraith (had TheJak as number 4 on his lynchprioritylist)
Dry-fit (voted wolf day 1, was the counterwagon to TheJak)
DavidXanatos (confirmed non wolf)

voted both werewolfes:
Global Warning, Ghostlin, ToastyToast, sorgster, StefanB*

* StefanB voted only after the guilty on Maxous

Voted only TheJak
Otolia, Oversoul, Bogre, DavidXanatos

Voted only Maxous
Whispersilk*, Yosarian2*, Empking's Alt, PeregrineV, TheFonz*

*Whispersik and Yosarian2 later unvoted Maxous.
*TheFonz voted only on Maxous after a guilty

For reference mostly
Is interestin, very suprised if people who voted both werewolves are werewolf. If their is a * behind the name the vote is a weaker indicator for aligment.

Wraith:
So you think that Toasty did after busing TheJak, did claim a role, outed his scumbuddy and tryed to get him killed, while there is a second scumgroup? Did you really think about that FOS?

[Wraith]

@Stefan: Insider knowledge doesn't necessarily mean scumbuddy.

[The Fonz]

I might be missing the context here, but judging by the reaction from Maxous he didn't say anything about being a roleblocker before TT outed him.

FoS: ToastyToast

I might be missing your point, but don't we know Toasty has insider knowledge from the very fact that he claimed role info that confirmed Max as being an RB? That kind of insider knowledge doesn't indicate scum?

[Magua]

Vote Count 4.5

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

David Xanatos (5): StefanB, Empking's Alt, Global Warming, BBmolla, Ghostlin
Otolia (2): sorgster, Dry-fit
The Fonz (1): Bogre
Oversoul (1): PeregrineV
PeregrineV (1): Yosarian2
Dry-fit (1): The Fonz
sorgster (1): Wraith

Not voting (5): whispersilk, Otolia, Oversoul, ToastyToast, David Xanatos

Deadline is November 18th, at 7:00pm EST.
Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2011-11-18 19:00:00)

[sorgster]

Unvote
Vote Toasty

[StefanB]

Wraith: So what exactly is that scummy inside information that you FOSED Toasty for, if he is not a scumbuddy? What is your logic/thinking here.

Sorgster: Please explain your last vote, so it is just huh?

[Wraith]

Geez, I guess I didn't think that through enough, because y'all are right.

[Bogre]

Main suspects so far are Dry-Fit and sorgster. They haven't been really convincing at all and I am at a loss as to why they focus me so much. Scum likelihood is high but so is backseat townies.

I agree with that.

[Bogre]

And as for The Fonz, by your own logic wouldn't that mean you think The Fonz is lying, and therefore scum?

Strongly tempted to join this David wagon. Doesn't look like Otolia wagon is going anywhere again...

This doesn't make sense, and he's only 'strongly tempted' to join the DX wagon. Why are you hesistant to join a wagon? Are you voting currently?

[sorgster]

Who did you roleblock last night, and (given that there was only one kill), why didn't you reveal it immediately?

And you revealed this...why?
Seriously.

I roleblocked BBmolla.
And yeah, it slightly increased my suspicion, but it's not as if there are'nt any other numerous reasons a kill would of been prevented.
It was nothing worth claiming for.

This was quoted by wraith a few posts ago. Showed toasty knew maxous was a roleblocker before maxous claimed. I can't see any other reason than scumbuddies for this.

[Wraith]

Who did you roleblock last night, and (given that there was only one kill), why didn't you reveal it immediately?

And you revealed this...why?
Seriously.

I roleblocked BBmolla.
And yeah, it slightly increased my suspicion, but it's not as if there are'nt any other numerous reasons a kill would of been prevented.
It was nothing worth claiming for.

This was quoted by wraith a few posts ago. Showed toasty knew maxous was a roleblocker before maxous claimed. I can't see any other reason than scumbuddies for this.

Well that's wrong and I was wrong. Stefan pointed out this: Why would Toasty out his own scumbuddy for no reason after he'd already lost another D1? Answer: He wouldn't. So unless TT is a scum investigative role for the Mafia Team, he's definitely not wolf, at least.

[StefanB]

Who did you roleblock last night, and (given that there was only one kill), why didn't you reveal it immediately?

And you revealed this...why?
Seriously.

I roleblocked BBmolla.
And yeah, it slightly increased my suspicion, but it's not as if there are'nt any other numerous reasons a kill would of been prevented.
It was nothing worth claiming for.

This was quoted by wraith a few posts ago. Showed toasty knew maxous was a roleblocker before maxous claimed. I can't see any other reason than scumbuddies for this.

Uh Sorgster, Toasty claimed a role known as follower (Voyeur in mafiadiscusion), that's not exactly new. So my former post for it not beeing likly that they are scumpartners.

[sorgster]

Unvote

It could have been a desperate scum gambit to save maxous though. If that's done this early, people will doubt scum would try that.

[Wraith]

Who did you roleblock last night, and (given that there was only one kill), why didn't you reveal it immediately?

And you revealed this...why?
Seriously.

I roleblocked BBmolla.
And yeah, it slightly increased my suspicion, but it's not as if there are'nt any other numerous reasons a kill would of been prevented.
It was nothing worth claiming for.

This was quoted by wraith a few posts ago. Showed toasty knew maxous was a roleblocker before maxous claimed. I can't see any other reason than scumbuddies for this.

Uh Sorgster, Toasty claimed a role known as follower (Voyeur in mafiadiscusion), that's not exactly new. So my former post for it not beeing likly that they are scumpartners.

Ah, that was the context I overlooked. Totally forgot about his claim.

[BBmolla]

Sorgster's jump on there was wierd.

I find it strange that tons of people are ignoring the largest wagon without stating any specific reason.

[Dry-fit]

And as for The Fonz, by your own logic wouldn't that mean you think The Fonz is lying, and therefore scum?

Strongly tempted to join this David wagon. Doesn't look like Otolia wagon is going anywhere again...

This doesn't make sense, and he's only 'strongly tempted' to join the DX wagon. Why are you hesistant to join a wagon? Are you voting currently?

I'm not sure what you mean. I'm only hesitant to join the DX wagon because I think Otolia is more likely to be scum. I'm voting for Otolia right now.

But that's okay, I let people enjoy backseat townie role once in a while as long as we keep lynching scum, you will have no influence whatsoever on the outcome of the game.

If I'm one of your top suspects, why do you think it's okay to let me hang around in the background?

[ToastyToast]

apologies for not posting recently, I'm writing a massive 15 page essay this weekend.
@sorgster and Wraith: where the hell were you yesterday? I'm kind of the reason Maxous is lynched bro.
Seems there's been all kinds of stupid since I last posted

FOS: sorgster

for being on the Maxous wagon without understanding one of the primary reasons for his lynch.
Wraith was on the sorgster wagon, which suggests that he is merely late to the party. pay more attention plz.

also,

vote:Otolia

the main wagons don't look like good one's to me. since Ghostlin asked, this is where my mind is at and where my vote should be.

[ToastyToast]

Sorgster's jump on there was wierd.

I find it strange that tons of people are ignoring the largest wagon without stating any specific reason.

it's because the wagon doesn't make sense to me (and I can see similar reactions to those "ignoring" it)

[sorgster]

apologies for not posting recently, I'm writing a massive 15 page essay this weekend.
@sorgster and Wraith: where the hell were you yesterday? I'm kind of the reason Maxous is lynched bro.
Seems there's been all kinds of stupid since I last posted

FOS: sorgster

for being on the Maxous wagon without understanding one of the primary reasons for his lynch.
Wraith was on the sorgster wagon, which suggests that he is merely late to the party. pay more attention plz.

also,

vote:Otolia

the main wagons don't look like good one's to me. since Ghostlin asked, this is where my mind is at and where my vote should be.

My primary reason for being on the maxous wagon was that there were 2 large wagons, mine and his.

[Yosarian2]

Unvote

It could have been a desperate scum gambit to save maxous though. If that's done this early, people will doubt scum would try that.

Wait...Toasty claiming information that implied maxous was scum roleblocker, and voting for maxious, could have been a gambit to defend maxious?

I don't get this at all. I don't get your vote for him, or Wrath's vote for him, and I especally don't get why you voted him but then only justified your vote in this post while you were unvoting him.

unvote

vote:sorgster

[Wraith]

@TT: No, I was paying attention yesterday because I remember people talking about a Voyeur, but I just totally forgot it was your claim.

[Wraith]

Actually, strike the above. What the fuck did I even do yesterday? If I'd seen your claim for realz I probably would have been on Max like that *snaps fingers*

My head hurts now.