I'm going to start with reads/etc, then come back to the issues addressed to me (mainly by Regfan and MoI) since my last post. Please do not address me as if I am ignoring questions/comments from other posts at this point as I'm simply deferring them until my next post.
A couple of people asked about my listing of reads in the last post (which was ref. my first post of the day), so I will go on and answer that now since it's relevant to this one. The list I had made in my last post was clarifying for MoS what my reads were when I was making the first post of the day.
Herod: Prior to D3 My top five was basically Kanye, Espeonage, Empking, and a shifting bottom two, including Feysal (pre-claim) and S&M at different points. On D3, I still held the top three reads, at least until Emp explained he gave Gandalf his role. (If you go back you can clearly see me asking Emp about it.) Today, Kanye is still my top scum-read, and between that and the solid town reads I have, I'm reevaluating my list. I don't usually share a complete list of suspects early in the game, but that doesn't mean I'm not thinking about them. Usually, and especially early in the game, I am comfortable listing 3-5 at a time, updating that list as the game progresses.
Staying on Kanye this whole time may not have been the right thing to do as town, but I still stand by my read on him and think he should be lynched. Nacho, as for my "late" vote on Marg, the first time I was even able to mention her after her first post I agreed with her lynch, but I was holding off voting because I was waiting to hear the stuff about MoI. The reason my vote-post was so short was because I was getting ready to go out of town and didn't actually have a lot of time, and because I had suspected that slot since D1 and had affirmed that in the post immediately prior to that one, so I didn't figure much more needed to be said.
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1. If you are town, go back and read Espeonage's ISO, and look at his interactions with Kanye. Especially the time when he says something about his vote on Kanye finally being serious--like when it looked like Kanye was the lynch, right before Feysal managed to shift everyone onto Peregrine. Regfan--you have mentioned that I should have been more proactive in my case about Espeonage. Well, a lot of my feelings about him were connected with Kanye flipping scum, so I wanted Kanye dead first. Since Esp/Marg flipped scum, those feelings are already cemented. In Esp's ISO, he clearly tries to justify Kanye's actions for a period, warns him away from Gandalf, and finally busses him. I absolutely feel that they are on the same team, and if I had the power to make Kanye dead, I would.
2. If you are town, go back and look at the end of the day wagon on Kanye/Vitamin. With six votes on Kanye, three are confirmed to everyone, and four are confirmed to at least three of us (me, Andy, Amrun). I'm reading Amrun as town, so the only "iffy" slot I see on that wagon is Andy's.
If Kanye is town, why would there only be one potential mafia-scum on his wagon? (And I'm speaking from my perspective, which will be verified when I flip town.) Mind you, this is the
second
end-of-day that saw Kanye vs. Flipped Town, and given the apparent willingness of people to actually vote for Kanye, I don't see why scum wouldn't take glorious advantage of a Kanye mislynch rather than advance yet another counter-wagon late in the day.
3. I had a feeling that if Nacho came in the game and attacked me, he is town. This is because if he were scum, I have a feeling he would want to distance himself from my mislynch given the suspicion that is already surrounding his slot. Therefore, I have moved him into my town reads. Prior to this, I had moved him into my top five scum list based on Elli's play.
4. Regfan is probably scum. In his discussions with me, he is very subtly twisting the meanings of things I've said in his questions when it should actually be quite obvious what I meant. I will address more of these points directly in my next post. I had a very iffy read on Dekes, much like I had in
Olympus
, but nothing concrete. More on Regfan in my next post, when I reply to him directly.
5. I said in my last post that I thought my wagon was scum driven (hello, Kanye and Regfan, yes I WAS talking about you), but there is no way that everyone in that first group of four would be scum, and if there are two scum on the wagon, then the one or two left would probably split themselves between a variety of other options, i.e., tacitly defending me as town. Therefore, I'm thinking
Herod
is scum. And guess what, way back in his second post he says this:
Herod wrote:Kanyek, maybe? I don't have a big scum read on him, but I'd be willing to sheep onto a wagon.
Not sure about Espeonage. I think he's just playing poorly.
His vig list in his ISO 18 is also a lovely thing. (I wouldn't have even noticed this at all if Ludi hadn't made it a point against me, but here Herod has Esp on that list, after 2 town--and before Esp's one-shot BP had been taken by Amrun's vig attmept on N2.)
6. Andy, <3. But, your post about me not posting here and posting elsewhere made me sad. Especially after I said a couple of times in my next posts that you could verify certain things about me but you didn't comment on them and then just said I was clearly town. That makes me think you are scum because you backed away from the conversation entirely.
So, my list is as of right now: Kanye, Regfan, Herod, and Andy.
