Imperial Intrigue (Endgame, OUT OF NOWHERE)

[MattP]

Your stance is that you were roleblocked last Night and that Nero Cain roleblocked you.

Got that part.

But what makes Nero Cain the roleblocker?

Who else besides Nero is mafia?

Nero came out of the gates with a vote on me.

That means nothing. It could be the fact that you come off as scummy a lot. I, unlike Nero, am contributing that to VI status. Also, you never answered who else you think is mafia.

[MattP]

AGaR, who do you think Magua could be scum with and why?

[Nero Cain]

Your stance is that you were roleblocked last Night and that Nero Cain roleblocked you.

Got that part.

But what makes Nero Cain the roleblocker?

Who else besides Nero is mafia?

Nero came out of the gates with a vote on me.

That means nothing. It could be the fact that you come off as scummy a lot.

I, unlike Nero, am contributing that to VI status.

Also, you never answered who else you think is mafia.

Which for me is a large reason I find him scummy. He knows he's considered a VI. He can use said status to get away with all shorts of things.

[MattP]

Your stance is that you were roleblocked last Night and that Nero Cain roleblocked you.

Got that part.

But what makes Nero Cain the roleblocker?

Who else besides Nero is mafia?

Nero came out of the gates with a vote on me.

That means nothing. It could be the fact that you come off as scummy a lot.

I, unlike Nero, am contributing that to VI status.

Also, you never answered who else you think is mafia.

Which for me is a large reason I find him scummy. He knows he's considered a VI. He can use said status to get away with all shorts of things.

Yes, but by this point I'd rather not take the chance of voting off a VI when we know he is a VI, especially after Soda. I think EC is a bigger and better fish to fry.

[MacDougall]

Well I think EtherealCookie is more likely to have bussed Empking than Magua, but it's still unlikely. I'd be far happier with the Vezok lynch.

[Wraith]

As of tomorrow, prods will go out every 48 hours. I'm loathe to replace players at this stage of the game but some are testing my patience.

[Nero Cain]

Yes, but by this point I'd rather not take the chance of voting off a VI when we know he is a VI, especially after Soda. I think EC is a bigger and better fish to fry.

but would you, assuming you are town, want Vez in LYLO? I wouldn't.

but yeah, EC goes first.

Well I think EtherealCookie is more likely to have bussed Empking than Magua, but it's still unlikely. I'd be far happier with the Vezok lynch.

Early

distancing

is a pretty common scum tactic. Perhaps she was trying to do that and it went horribly wrong and Emp got lynched.

[Bogre]

I think that kdowns killed SleepyKrew but is scum. I think that gandalf or JDGA died for another reason. Maybe they targeted a PGO or there is a SK? I dunno, I just don't trust kdowns at all anymore. A confirmed townie doesn't play like him. Why are you so defensive of him?

SK's kill every night, usually. We've seen nothing supporting a PGO.

Agar's 'let's kill Magua over argueing' is bad, bad. A vote that doesn't further any realistic agenda is scummy.

Still catching up.

[Bogre]

Your stance is that you were roleblocked last Night and that Nero Cain roleblocked you.

Got that part.

But what makes Nero Cain the roleblocker?

Who else besides Nero is mafia?

Nero came out of the gates with a vote on me.

So he voted you...meaning he roleblocked you?

[Bogre]

Well I think EtherealCookie is more likely to have bussed Empking than Magua, but it's still unlikely. I'd be far happier with the Vezok lynch.

You've come full circle, BACK to the Vezok lynch.

[MacDougall]

I sure have.

vote Vezok

[Nero Cain]

VOTE EC!!!!

[MattP]

Vote: EC

[MacDougall]

vote EC

[Magua]

Nero, why are you voting EtherealCookie and not vezokpiraka? Your ISO is full of vezokpiraka with hardly a hint of EC, yet now you're pushing EC's lynch like the Second Coming.

Bogre, same question.

[AGar]

If I'm scum, why am I defending MacDougall as town? What is my motivation?

If this really needs an answer (you're a better player than this Magua), there is a plethora of it, starting with dropping WIFOM and red herrings all over and ending with simple town credit and everything in between. A million and one.

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@MattP

Honestly, Magua is with more likely - imo - with the wildcard remaining scum. I hold to four scum with the flipped traitors and I'd say the Mac-EC pairing would make sense, complete with Mac's late "Oh shit" flips.

@EC

I'd suggest you claim in your next post. In the next 12 hours. I'm off from work, I have all eyes on this game. Fullclaim. Actions. Everything.

Or I smash your little head in.

[Wraith]

Votecount 6.2

EtherealCookie

(4)

:

Bogre, Nero Cain, MattP, MacDougall

Magua

(2)

:

MacDougall

,

MattP

, EtherealCookie, AGar

Nero Cain

(1)

:

vezokpiraka

Bogre

(1)

:

Magua

kdowns

(0)

:

MacDougall

MattP

(0)

:

kdowns

AGar

(0)

:

MattP

vezokpiraka

(0)

:

Nero Cain

,

MacDougall

Not Voting

(1)

:

kdowns

With 9 alive it takes

5

to lynch.

Deadline for this day is

November 21, 2011

EtherealCookie

stands at

L-1

and is being prodded.

[Nero Cain]

Well its very possible she was distancing herself from EMP and she could be doing the same with Vezok. Or scum EC could just be pushing on EZ lynch and doesn't really think VEZ is scum. The best example of this is instead of pushing the Vez lynch today she conveniently joined the Magua wagon. Upon her scum flip we'll have to revisit the distancing question.

[Bogre]

Nero, why are you voting EtherealCookie and not vezokpiraka? Your ISO is full of vezokpiraka with hardly a hint of EC, yet now you're pushing EC's lynch like the Second Coming.

Bogre, same question.

Well, first of all, I've made it pretty clear that I think Vezok is perpetually a VI and lynching him equates to a policy lynch. Most of what I've talked about him has been in the context of Mac/EC pushing for his lynch heavily, especially the Macdougall WIFOM about him, and the EC concentration.

So basically: A Vezok lynch helps because he's confusing/alwaysscummy/not helpful, but I think it's low yield because he does this every time, and I can't get a strong feeling for whether he's scum or town.

[EtherealCookie]

Loyalist. Vanilla. No actions, obviously.

[MattP]

EtherealCookie. Scum. Covering it, obviously.

[kdowns]

Should me or Agar hammer?

[Nero Cain]

doesn't matter me thinks.

[kdowns]

VOTE: EC

... EC, I did a quick ISO of you... Good thing you post similar to me so it wasn't much to read but... this game day for you is just bad.

[Wraith]

Votecount 6.3

EtherealCookie

(5)

:

Bogre, Nero Cain, MattP, MacDougall, kdowns

Magua

(2)

:

MacDougall

,

MattP

, EtherealCookie, AGar

Nero Cain

(1)

:

vezokpiraka

Bogre

(1)

:

Magua

kdowns

(0)

:

MacDougall

MattP

(0)

:

kdowns

AGar

(0)

:

MattP

vezokpiraka

(0)

:

Nero Cain

,

MacDougall

Not Voting

(0)

:

With 9 alive it takes

5

to lynch.

Deadline for this day is

November 21, 2011

EtherealCookie

has been lynched. Lynch scene forthcoming.