Open 347: White Flag Mafia (Game Over)

[Fruit Basket]

he was trying to get a counterwagon run up on Cross_Pollination.

i'll read the rest in a bit.

this counterwagon push must be invisible b/c i don't see it anywhere in her posts.

[Equinox]

But I do and it's plainly obvious to me, so I guess we'll just disagree.

[Fruit Basket]

it's only 'plainly obvious' if you have a really fucking loose definition of 'trying to get a counterwagon', because it flat out didn't happen if not. but sure 'disagree'

[Fruit Basket]

i'm going to smash my face into a brick wall repeatedly actually. it seems more productive than trying to get a wagon on amrun.

now let me decide who i want to vote.

[Equinox]

If railing over and over and over that there should be a wagon on Cross_Pollination, that Cross_Pollination is scum, that Cross_Pollination is scum for X reason, that it makes no sense for people to read Cross_Pollination as anything higher than null, that the Nobody Special wagon is nothing special (harhar), and that there should be a counterwagon on Cross_Pollination isn't "plainly obvious" or "trying to get a counterwagon," I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS.

[jerobbo]

i'm going to smash my face into a brick wall repeatedly actually. it seems more productive than trying to get a wagon on amrun.

now let me decide who i want to vote.

Isn't gonna happen today, I don't get it either.

Can we just lynch bvoigt and try and move on.

[Equinox]

Thank you for admitting that one of your reasons is wrong already Equi.

Not the point. What I was driving at was that you found it suspicious that Amrun called you out for poor activity when you were V/LA, yet you didn't call me out for doing the same thing she did.

then where is it and how does it show a case on SK?

I can talk specifics when I get back, but his posts on that page just rang to me as scummy, particularly the way he slapped together his proposed scum team of {Amrun, bvoigt, Twistedspoon}.

[Amrun]

That is the crux with sk for me too. His scum team makes No sense and when I pointed it out I thought he would fix it bit he hasn't. I trqd him again and my townread on him, which was already weakened, is now gone.

I think he is just doing anything to get me mislynched and is coasting on that.

[Twistedspoon]

That is the crux with sk for me too. His scum team makes No sense and when I pointed it out I thought he would fix it bit he hasn't. I trqd him again and my townread on him, which was already weakened, is now gone.

I think he is just doing anything to get me mislynched and is coasting on that.

half the players are trying to get you myslynched amrun

and how does a scumteam with Sk work anyways?

[Twistedspoon]

I am very confident BV is how to proceed

his entrance onto he wagon was still awful

the distancing is very clear

and he had every motive to kill [J]

how can a townread remain?

[SleepyKrew]

Equi, I don't remember you ever calling me out on that before. I thought you were saying "well that's one less point in my amazing SKrew case that I STILL HAVENT POSTED".

Amrun, what's trqd?
And I don't recall us talking about my scumteam again and again. Care to quote it?
Also, wouldn't me changing my reads because you told me to be more of a scumtell?

Okay. Prepare for mindblowinh explanations:
Amrun is scum because of stuff
TS is scum because of incessant defense of NS and Amrun
bv is scum for the case TS posted

[ScreamingHawk]

Please. Explain. Elaborate.

The tells you have mentioned hold value but not as much as you are putting on them. Not enough to push them to high scum. Tells = agreeable, reads = over exagerated

I realize that I'm not an actual viable wagon, but I'm interested in hearing why you're looking at Quilford in particular for the reasons you've stated.

Becuase you are not a viable wagon for one. But really it's because when you do post, you post decent content. I understand people having limitted access. But those that don't participate well when they do, are scummy.

I am very confident BV is how to proceed

his entrance onto he wagon was still awful

the distancing is very clear

and he had every motive to kill [J]

how can a townread remain?

I agree. What conclusions do you think you will draw from a BV flip?

@mod: A VC would be nice right about now... I would like to request an extension on the deadline if we are unable to organise a lynch due to our inaccurate vote counting.

[ScreamingHawk]

TS is scum because of incessant defense of NS and Amrun

If BV flips town, this is where I will be looking tomorrow.

[pidgey]

Although i do think BV is scummy, i think we have a better chance to get scum with Quil and fatlikepig.

Amrun looked townish to me when he was heavily under attack at post numer 1104. Her new posts arent that townish though... To be honest, i keep going back and forth with her... I'm worried, but not TOO worried.

BV might be a good lynch but he is also an easy one, and really, easy lynches turn out to be scum few times unless said lynch really screws up badly so that's why im... hesitating. Im much more happy lynching fatlikepig or quil. I do find BV somewhat scummy but not that much. But would lynch to avoid no lynch. I dunno, there could be a scumbuddy busing him already if he's scum.

Not loving the latest SH posts... If SH turns out to be scum you guys will learn not to trust your towntells much. As of right now, to me he is just null.

[Fruit Basket]

bvoigt

: - fatlikepig, twistedspoon, jerrobo L-3

Amrun

- Fruit Basket, SleepyKrew L-4

jerobbo

- ScreamingHawk, bvoigt L-4

SleepyKrew

: - Equinox, Amrun, L-4

fatlikepig

: - pidgey L-5

screaminghawk

- quilford

Not Voting:

- None


With 11 Alive - 6 to lynch

is the vc i think


iso'ing bv and flp now.

[ScreamingHawk]

Although i do think BV is scummy, i think we have a better chance to get scum with Quil and fatlikepig.

Can we agree to narrow down the lynch today to either Quil, flp or BV??
I'd prefer a Quil lynch but don't mind BV.

Like Pidgy said re BV being an easy lynch, if he flips town I'd suggest we look at the drivers of this wagon.

[fatlikepig]

BV might be a good lynch but he is also an easy one, and really, easy lynches turn out to be scum few times unless said lynch really screws up badly so that's why im... hesitating. Im much more happy lynching fatlikepig or quil. I do find BV somewhat scummy but not that much. But would lynch to avoid no lynch. I dunno, there could be a scumbuddy busing him already if he's scum.

How is bv an easy lynch?

Judging by that post, I think Pidgey may be worth looking at tomorrow if bv flips scum. It looks very much like scum unwilling to bus a buddy to me.

Of course, if he flips town, I'm essentially dead as a doorknob tomorrow. Oh well.

[SleepyKrew]

That entire post is fence.
PEDIT: pigdey's that is

[Twistedspoon]

TS is scum because of incessant defense of NS and Amrun

both I have explained throughly to explain my thoughts

it's not like they were unreasonable and if you had listened to me you yourslef wouldn't have gone on to lynch NS

Like Pidgy said re BV being an easy lynch, if he flips town I'd suggest we look at the drivers of this wagon.

how are you suggesting BV is an easy lynch? if scum wanted to push an easy lynch then quilford, jerrobo, Amrun and SK will be where they have done so

That entire post is fence.
PEDIT: pigdey's that is

at least it's genuine

[Twistedspoon]

actually, you might be right SK

pidgey can be looked at if BV flips scum but we need you to help us do that

even you agree he's scum so do your duty here

[SleepyKrew]

I wasn't aware I was an easy lynch. I've got waitingforacase Equi and obvscum(or noreason for those who refuse to believe Amrunscum)Amrun.

Look TS. You used meta to defend NS, while meta was my ATTACK. So yeah, your arguments were pretty unreeasonable to me. And your Amrun defense is unreasonable too, but looks like nobody cares.

I thought NS was scum. I think Amrun is scum. Are these derelictions of duty? Does TS know all?
What made you change your mind about pigdey so quickly?
Why are you telling me to act upon a scumread that you were trying to discredit earlier?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: bvoigt

[Equinox]

What do you think of my defense of Amrun, SleepyKrew?

[Twistedspoon]

Look TS. You used meta to defend NS, while meta was my ATTACK. So yeah, your arguments were pretty unreeasonable to me.

so by that logic your arguments should have been unreasonable to me too. And it looks like my meta worked anyways

And your Amrun defense is unreasonable too, but looks like nobody cares.

another time perhaps, but it isn't

I thought NS was scum. I think Amrun is scum. Are these derelictions of duty? Does TS know all?
What made you change your mind about pigdey so quickly?
Why are you telling me to act upon a scumread that you were trying to discredit earlier?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: bvoigt

no I don't know all, but I like to think I'm getting there
because I tried to read from your PoV. I still think he's town for know though. If BV flips town then he looks near conf. town

[SleepyKrew]

What do you think of my defense of Amrun, SleepyKrew?

That it's wrong.

[Morthas]

Day 2 Votecount the Seventh

Amrun

- Fruit Basket,

jerobbo

- ScreamingHawk, bvoigt

fatlikepig

: - pidgey,

bvoigt

: - fatlikepig, jerobbo, SleepyKrew, Twistedspoon, L-2

SleepyKrew

: - Equinox, Amrun

ScreamingHawk

: - Quilford,

Not Voting:

- None

With 11 Alive - 6 to lynch

Day 2 deadline: Sunday, 20th of November

@mod: A VC would be nice right about now... I would like to request an extension on the deadline if we are unable to organise a lynch due to our inaccurate vote counting.

Sorry for late VC, life has been a bit hectic.
Sorry, no replacements were made recently and I see no reason to change deadline as it may be a disadvantage to mafia.