NY 142: Rolling in the Deep, WAIT WAT? PARTY OVER?!

[DrippingGoofball]

I also don't think you'd use a 1-shot Cop on someone in the spotlight, who already has a hefty amount of suspicion cast upon them. You would've used it on a lurker, someone impossible to read like Sky, SV, or even ThAd.

Maybe that's what you were hoping, but I replaced in without reading the game, and I don't like your attitude in general. So I picked you.

[Pine]

You can't seriously keep thinking that calling a 1-shot Cop guilty and pushing me as SK is going to fly with anyone other than those who already want my blood, can you? They're not actually compatible.

You're bluffing, and bluffing badly. Out of spite.

[Revenus]

1 shot cop?


What.


Ok,

Unvote

Pine's flip will implicate more people than lynching someone else, but if Pine is town, then scum really want to kill him for whatever reason and are betting that them taking out Pine with the doc out will let them run the game.

Or something.

What is clear is that if Pine IS the vig, there aren't 2 scum teams.

[DrippingGoofball]

What is clear is that if Pine IS the vig, there aren't 2 scum teams.

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT

WRONG

[ZeL1nK]

pine-vig would actually imply there

are

two scum teams (n1 kills), or at least it would imply the existence of two other killing abilities.

[ZeL1nK]

I also think that theamatuer is telling the truth about the roleblock. He has NO REASON to come up with stuff like that as scum.

sentence 1 is true.

sentence 2 is false.

if it's going to come down to a choice between theam and pine today, theam is a better choice.

VOTE: theamatuer

[ZeL1nK]

If he beleived he was hot on the tail of rev scum would'nt he think there would be a good chance that he would die particulary when Hiraki flipped doctor?

logically, this wouldn't be a huge problem because pine dying would probably have somewhat implicated revenus and there was a lot of support for revenus's lynch without pine being alive.

on the other hand, there wasn't an amazing amount of support for a pops lynch. it was a good vig shot.

the only problem pine would have if he'd died is that nobody would have known about his n1 shot failing, but he did crumb this. sort of.

[Pine]

I wasn't too worried about it. TheAm has played so scumtacularly, his days are numbered regardless of what I crumbed or not.

[theamatuer]

I wasn't too worried about it. TheAm has played so scumtacularly,

his days are numbered regardless of what I crumbed or not.

I suspect that this is less about whether I'm scum or not and instead about whether or not I'd block you again
.
And I find the bolded very scummy for some reason.

[Pine]

The bolded only means that finding someone who DOESN'T think you're scum is practically impossible. The only way you survive every day is peoples' attention being distracted.

Nice attempt at a misrep though.

[sorgster]

Are pine and theam at l-2 or l-3 currently?

[DrippingGoofball]

This is what I got:

theamatuer (6): iamausername, Pine, ThAdmiral, vijay2vasandani, bvoigt, ZeL1nK
Pine (6): theamatuer, Beck, DrippingGoofball, smargaret, Maxous

9 to lynch.

[DrippingGoofball]

Which is pretty bone-headed given that we have a guilty result.

[Pine]

No we don't. Everything about your claim smells rotten. First, I'm Town, so a guilty result is impossible. Second, you actually denied claiming cop at one point. Third, you've been pushing me as SK over Mafia, which is incompatible with your claimed guilty. Fourth, I can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that I'm not Mafia, again disproving your claimed result. Fifth, using a 1-shot power on someone with loads of content instead of on a no-content lurker is ridiculously implausible for someone of your experience.

Admit your gambit and shut the fuck up about it.

[sorgster]

This is what I got:

theamatuer (6): iamausername, Pine, ThAdmiral, vijay2vasandani, bvoigt, ZeL1nK
Pine (6): theamatuer, Beck, DrippingGoofball, smargaret, Maxous

9 to lynch.

You missed me on the pine but 6 anyways.

Rev, why are you not voting pine?

[Beck]

few flaws in your argument

he never denies claiming cop technically, he denies that he actually came out and CLAIMED cop. he later does claim cop

There is no rule that says SKs can't come back witha guilty, even the wiki says it.

Serial Killers have also been seen with investigation immunity like Godfathers, or Tracker/Watcher immunity like Ninja.

"Have also been seen" means that it isn't guranteed

Why did you limit yourself to saying you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt you are not mafia, but left off SK and werewolf?

the last one is such a BS reason as it actually has no fucking logic behind it. Cop is supposed to investigate who THEY think is scum, this is yet another time you claim to be doing something just because you post (i.e. your "look I am scum hunting because I said somebody committed a town tell" BS that you used earlier in the game.


Let's end this right now

1. Are you Mafia
2. Are you SK
3. Are you werefolf
4. are you any other sort of role that does not share the town win condition
5. if 1-4 are yes, how can you prove it without a reasonable dobt?

the problem is you can't, so unfortunately you will be lynched today.

[Pine]

1. No
2. No
3. No, and this was a stupid question, we've already ruled out werewolves.
4. No, and Normal conditions make this a stupid condition as well, as Mafia/Werewolf/SK are the only permitted anti-Town roles.
5. You phrased this incorrectly, but I'm going to assume you meant "If 1-4 are not true, how can you prove it." I can prove I'm not Mafia/Werewolf with an individualized flavor.

As for your point about SKs and cops, most Mods rule that only Mafia/Werewolves come back guilty, but we can settle this.

@Mods: Under your rules, do Serial Killers show up as guilty to Cops?

[ZeL1nK]

dgb is lying

if pine is lynched, she will retract her claim and say "lol i was gambiting"

it's pathetic.

the only reason i'd lynch pine is if i have a guarantee that a pine town-flip = dead dgb, no excuses, no second-guessing.

[ZeL1nK]

I want dgb to specifically say "lynch me if pine flips town because I am not gambiting" or something to that effect.

no worming her way out of it

[theamatuer]

I'd guarantee voting DGB day 3 if pine flips town, but I'd think they'd be busy with lynching the shit out of me

[Pine]

No, DGB is Town. Whatever else you're doing, you are not lynching her.

Refer to this post after I flip Town.

DGB is Town in the same way Beck is Town. Both are wrong, both are pissing me off to no extent, and both are playing BADLY. But both are also Town.

[ZeL1nK]

yeah, no.

i want dgb to clarify it or i don't give a fuck whether you think she's town.

[smargaret]

zel looks like newbscum trying to defend his partner. DGB is town, theam is town, pine is flailing scum, why are we still discussing this?

[smargaret]

also v/la tomorrow through saturday

[ZeL1nK]

smargaret looks like newbscum who is trying way too hard to get a mislynch on pine and is now hoping to plant seeds of suspicion on my 'obvtown' status.