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Post Post #2125 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:20 pm

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It is, actually. Your meta on me is not nearly as complete as you think it is.
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Post Post #2126 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:34 pm

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Bro why u scum tho
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Post Post #2127 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:10 pm

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So is this the quick rundown:

Fate is town. DGB is town. Elvis and KK are masons. SV is tech and town MVP.

Add in me town and we're looking at 5.

If Pine were to sac, we'd have everyone alive tomorrow AND I could harness more organs for my organ farm.

Then with lynch/purge - nk - lynch assuming not pants on head we win the race.
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Post Post #2128 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:17 pm

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Ooooh, this is true. Hmm, have to consider the ramifications of this. We'd lose an extra Townie, so it would be like universal roleblock on everyone except scum kill on me. It would protect five confirmed Town though.

Yeah, I'll do it.

Mod: I will be sacrificing myself.


For the record, I'm not Bulletproof. That's why there was an inconsistency in that part of my claim. I was trying to protect my power role for an occasion like this. Successfully, it looks like. Everything else I said is true though.
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Post Post #2129 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:25 pm

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chunkykev---------------Probably scum
DrippingGoofball--------Town Tracker
elvis_knits-------------Town Mason
Fate--------------------Town
Katsuki-----------------Today's lynch
Kublai Khan-------------Town Mason
Lowell------------------Probably scum
Pine--------------------Town, tonight's death
Seraphim----------------Probably scum
SpyreX------------------Town
xRECKONERx--------------Unknown. May be scum due to PoE
Zdenek------------------Unknown. May be scum due to PoE

Assuming five starting scum and a scumflip from Katsuki, tomorrow will be 7 Town vs 3 scum. If we mislynch today (unlikely) it will be 6v4 and MyLo.

I suggest Katsuki today, Seraphim tomorrow, and Spy poisons Reck. Just call that last a gut feeling.
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Post Post #2130 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:26 pm

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Hmm, not sure on Lowell and Chunkykev. I have a feeling that one, but not both are scum. Not sure which is which. I don't think Zdenek is scum.
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Post Post #2131 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:42 pm

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God I'm really not buying the mason claim at this point.

I didn't know Pine could prove himself town like this. That makes the mason claims even MORE unbelievable, especially given the fact that Katsuki's slot is town due to GrimmMeta (not to mention complete inactivity during key night phases), and I know that I'm town.

Chunkykev/Lowell/Seraphim/Zdenek are all acceptable lynches.

I would also 10000% be okay with lynching a mason to test that claim or maybe having SpyreX use his poisons on them but we can deal with that later.

We're GOING to mislynch today. Katsuki isn't scum. Not only is Kats-meta not holding up right now, but GrimmMeta makes it not so.

So how about we don't go after Katsuki and we redirect this wagon elsewhere?
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Post Post #2132 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:55 pm

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Checked the EK & KK ISOs. Nothing whatsoever contradicts their Masons claim. In fact, it supports it strongly. Both committed to the other as Town right off the bat with no hesitation and no wavering. Neither posted between DGB claiming Mason and her admitting it was a gambit, so their reactions to that are not diagnostic.

Reck trying to make the Mason claim questionable sounds really suspicious to me. Like his team went from being in full control of this game a few pages ago to completely on the run. Pretending he didn't know about my role ability is even more suspicious, considering he was involved in the discussion wherein I revealed it on D2.

Reck goes next. I'm pretty confident about this now.
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Post Post #2133 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:03 pm

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...or it's because mason claims are really easy to fake when you're on D4 with only ONE member down due to modkill. Hell, you can even bus two or three of your partners and still make it out fine. It's also pretty funny how the mason claim was held off on until OMG WHAT MODKILL YEAH WE'RE MASONS out of nowhere. Methinks they couldn't stomach the idea of running this shit then BAM two scumbuddies down in one day. It's ballsy but I can't help but think it's true because this is
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what I did with Katsuki in Encore Mafia: Mod Mayhem recently.

The whole "they committed to each other being town" is pretty simple. If you commit to not bus (as I've done several times in scum QTs past) then you commit from the start.

Granted, I said I don't want them dead today. But you're seriously off the rails here if you're onto me AND Katsuki. If nobody's willing to listen to me at all (note the lack of actual case on Katsuki, note the lack of any comment regarding my meta tells which is the best thing we have so far), then I'm just going to sit here silently while you all piss away our really good chance at winning.

Pine, I expect you to flip tomorrow since you're "sacrificing" yourself.
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Post Post #2134 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:07 pm

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Pretty obvious that I will. I gave away my Bulletproof gambit, why'd I do that if I didn't mean it?

Oh hey, guess what. Our confirmed Town list is up to six. I'm not bullshitting when I say that I have a good-strength scumread on Reck that has cropped up in the last few pages based on his reactions to recent events.

And fakeclaiming Masons now is actually somewhat risky. A pair of real Masons, which is reasonable considering more than half of the playerbase is alive, could fuck their day UP right now.
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Post Post #2135 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:14 pm

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Hmm. True. Masons counterclaiming is a risk I didn't consider.

Your "good-strength" scumread on me is wrong, Pine. You're not usually this off on me, so I'm a little shocked by this.

You're dead wrong about me, and I have a pretty good feeling you're dead wrong about Katsuki as well.
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Post Post #2136 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:15 pm

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Can we please lynch Seraphim or Chunkykev?

PLEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASE


I'm more confident in Seraphim than Chunkykev and I really want to lead a lynch on scum before the game is over

unvote, vote: Seraphim


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Post Post #2137 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:11 pm

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Vote Count 6


Katsuki (3): DrippingGoofball, Fate, Pine

DrippingGoofball (2): Lowell, Seraphim
elvis_knits (2): SpyreX, Zdenek
Lowell (2): Chunkykev, Katsuki
xRECKONERx (2): Elvis_knits, Kublai Khan

Seraphim (1): xRECKONERx

Not Voting:

12 Alive, 7 to Lynch
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Post Post #2138 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:08 am

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In post 2136, xRECKONERx wrote:Can we please lynch Seraphim or Chunkykev?

PLEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASE


I'm more confident in Seraphim than Chunkykev and I really want to lead a lynch on scum before the game is over

unvote, vote: Seraphim


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Post Post #2139 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:18 am

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OK.

It's official. xRECK is flailing scum.

RECKscum wrote:Chunkykev/Lowell/Seraphim/Zdenek are all acceptable lynches.


Two of my town reads, and two players I have no-result on.

Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffft

Katsuki wagon is stalling, this is a good sign that we're on the right track.

We could join the masons and lynch xRECK, too.
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Post Post #2140 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:54 am

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OMG NO RESULTS ON A TRACK TOTALLY MEANS CONFTOWN OMG

lynch me today so i can laugh from beyond the grave at this terrible town

just don't lynch katsuki bc that grimm meta read is solid
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Post Post #2141 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:04 am

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Post Post #2142 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:05 am

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DGB when will you admit you're senile and incapable of competently producing reads anymore
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Post Post #2143 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:36 am

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So we've got a scum team of 4 or 5, my money's on 4, left. I don't want to lynch any of the following today, but of them the person I am most suspicious of is Fate - the messenger bit is an easy gambit to pull of, and I still think that Fate should have figured out that it's bs to have a cop who can send out results as soon as he gets them.

SpyreX - poisoner and gives out double votes
elvis_knits - claimed Mason
Kublai Khan - claimed Mason
Pine - will die tonight
DrippingGoofball - claimed Tracker
Fate - received messages from NS

Leaving:

Katsuki (Formerly Grimmjow) - reviewed his and Grimm's ISO's. There's nothing there that I would say is a strong alignment tell. Katsuki said that he'd like it if SL or SV sacrificed himself for Elli, but never mentioned SV again, so that's something to keep in mind. At that time, SL was voting SV and there was a wagon on SL. I'd say there's a potential link to SV here, but it's not strong.

Lowell - In 571 Lowell FoSed Shattered because of his deny-meany miney moe post. He's thrown FoSs around, but has voted very conservatively.

Seraphim (Formerly malthusis) - Isn't trying and is probably scum.

xRECKONERx - is probably scum. There was the one of the SDC is scum business and that waste of time probability post. He spent a long time attacking Kuribo, but voted SA without saying anything, putting him to L-2.

reck wrote:
LOL HINDU BE STRETCHIN' BRO

Yeah this Hindu lynch is lookin' good and primed for D2 after we lynch SA.

OMG RECK IS SETTING UP LYNCHES HE'S SCUMZ

This last comment is designed to head off conversation and deflect attention from what he is doing.

There's the really consistent buddying of Katsuki/Grimmjow.

I'm a bit tired of reading now, but I'll get back to this.

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Anyhow, at the moment, I think we've got scum in Seraphim and Reck. I remember thinking that ChunkyKev was town, put that was at partly because of my scum reads on people voting for him who are now very likely town. Reck's buddying of Grimmjow/Katsuki means that slot can be town for now. So the last scum are probably in Lowell, ChunkyKev and Fate.
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Post Post #2144 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:42 am

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After I flip town you promise me katsuki won't be lynched

fucking swear it and ill just selfvote right now and we can get this nonsense over with
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Post Post #2145 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:43 am

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Scum are gonna win this game anyway due to derp

zdenek is probscum
plz2be not letting dgb have any say in anything anymore bc her reads are shit
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Post Post #2146 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:14 am

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^This is the problem with Reck as Town. This attitude would fly half a dozen pages ago when we had no confirmed Townies and two Townies were about to be killed by other Townies. Now that we have enough cleared to narrow down PoE to almost guaranteed win, Reck suddenly declares DGB can't be trusted and Town is suddenly horribad.

Reckscum, yo.
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Post Post #2147 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:40 am

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Nope.

DGB has shit reads. She is clearing people as town based on no-visits, and this town is hellbent on lynching me n Kats who are both town. 2 mislynches is probably gg.
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Post Post #2148 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:25 am

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^Misrep. She's not clearing no-results, she's just deprioritizing them
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Post Post #2149 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:05 am

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She dismissed my four lynch candidates by going "two are town reads, two are no visits"
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