Mini320: Urban Legends Mafia is over!

[VisMaior]

Uh? HIMAB just said he Rbd him. So he could not have sent the message.

[VisMaior]

EBWODP ok nevermind. I see now: RBd, no kill, rbd and possible another nokill.

vote audacesiuvat

[BrizzyBoi]

I don't feel so bad now about outing HIAB as a confirmed townie, when he would have outed himself as a roleblocker to get us another lynch.

[audacesiuvat]

Eh, I don't terribly mind getting lynched now. I can't fault your logic, HIAB, and I'd be doing the same in your situation. It's just as well, anyway. since my ability is pretty useless now that I've claimed. At least we're not getting rid of a better power role.

Before I go out, I will

FOS: VisMaior

for being extremely aggressive in attacking me, even after HIAB dropped his suspicion on me.

So, I'm just going to go off into a corner and get brain cancer now. You know, Urban Legends and stuff.

[BrizzyBoi]

Or there's the one about mobile phone signals making gas stations blow up.

Just giving you options and all.

[Drummer]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

audacesiuvat--2(BrizzyBoi, VisMaior)

VisMaior--1(broomhead)
bluesoul--1(Sentinel99)

Not voting--8(uh, everyone but Brizz, Vis, broom, and Sent)

With ten alive, it's six to lynch.

NOTE:Vis, you're lucky I'm a kind mod. Let's all unvote before we cast a new vote to make things easier to read.

[Sentinel99]

Unvote: bluesoul

Vote: audacesiuvat

[help im a bug]

Well, if audaces is basically consenting to being lynched, I'm not against it.

vote: audacesiuvat

[bluesoul]

Vote audacesiuvat

[Yosarian2]

Unvote

If he was RBd, we should give him another night to prove himself.

Vote audacesiuvat [/b]

What???

vote:bluesoul

If audacesivat was roleblocked, then all we have to do is wait a night and he can prove his role tonight. As you said. I don't see any reason to lynch him now. So why would suddenly contradict yourself and change your mind without giving a reason just as the bandwagon speeds towards a lynch?

[bluesoul]

I'm

really

confused. I'm thinking we should give him another night. But I'm also thinking I missed something because the same logic led to a lot of people voting for him. I really don't know what's going on.

[Osloboditelj]

I'm pretty sure we shouldn't be lynching someone who's relatively easily confirmed here. HIAB's claiming is really questionable, too; let's give Aud another night so that we can potentially have him as a confirmed townie.

[VisMaior]

Hm, I dont know. Even if he has the role he says he has, he still could be scum.

[BrizzyBoi]

Ok, fair enough I can see the logic of bluesoul and Osloboditelj. Just because HIAB roleblocked audacesiuvat on Night 1 and there was no kill, doesn't mean that audacesiuvat was the scummer who was supposed to do the killing.

The kill could have been prevented by a protection role.

To give a little room for discussion I will (yet again)

UnVote: audacesiuvat.

Not that I find the situation any less suspicious, but mainly because even if we do string audacesiuvat up, there will still be a night kill (assuming 3 mafia) as opposed to confirming audacesiuvat's story on night 3 by having him send a message to someone and have HIAB

not

roleblock him so we can get an accurate read on his claim.

[help im a bug]

Eh, I don't terribly mind getting lynched now. I can't fault your logic, HIAB, and I'd be doing the same in your situation. It's just as well, anyway. since my ability is pretty useless now that I've claimed. At least we're not getting rid of a better power role.

Before I go out, I will

FOS: VisMaior

for being extremely aggressive in attacking me, even after HIAB dropped his suspicion on me.

So, I'm just going to go off into a corner and get brain cancer now. You know, Urban Legends and stuff.

This post is actually what convinced me to revote Audaces.

I would think that someone who was actually innocent would be protesting his own lynch, especially when the evidence for it is not at all conclusive. It could easily be coincidence that i roleblocked him night 0 and there was no kill, but he says he "can't fault [my] logic". This just smells fishy to me.

[audacesiuvat]

This post is actually what convinced me to revote Audaces.

I would think that someone who was actually innocent would be protesting his own lynch, especially when the evidence for it is not at all conclusive. It could easily be coincidence that i roleblocked him night 0 and there was no kill, but he says he "can't fault [my] logic". This just smells fishy to me.

What is this, reverse WIFOM?

Would I prefer it if I wasn't lynched? Heck yes. I think there are other people here who have acted far scummier than I. But there is evidence out there that I could be scum, and if the only way to clear the air is my lynching, I don't mind. I really don't mind because now that everybody knows about my ability, its usefulness is practically nil. So the town doesn't lose much by my lynching, save for a warm pro-town body.

I'm just trying to look at the situation logically and dispassionately. If it looks fishy, so be it.

[broomhead]

and if the only way to clear the air is my lynching, I don't mind.

you're wrong, lest you forget you're own claim, you have a postman ability, that means you choose someone like the cop, and send him a message. HIAM will promise not to role block you. then you are confirmed. and i have a sneaking suspicion that you're giving up too early. fight for your confirmation. seeing as i don't think the vig would strike this early, i don't think HIAB blocked the kill. i think the mafia just made a stupid move and killed the most scummy.

so in light of me totally defending the major target for today, i'll present a new one for everyone to think about. Vismajor. my post still went unanswered by anyone. (post 102) and i think he's been the scummest acting of everyone so far. and if we prove that audaces is innocent, then i think his FOS is good to go on.

[Der Hammer]

The point is that we can easily prove that audacesiuvat has a Postman ability but its not entirely impossible that it is a town role unless I have missed something.

[broomhead]

true, but i'd be willing to bank on it. this is only a 12 person game remember

[Sentinel99]

unvote

Zarquon, this is getting to be a tangled mess. I can see how easy it is for aud to be confirmed, but that takes a lead out for today. We've gotta cast votes somewhere, right?

[Der Hammer]

true, but i'd be willing to bank on it. this is only a 12 person game remember

Yeah just to clarify I dont actually think that he is mafia and think that waiting the night should be alright to prove his innocence although it seems as if we will lose either a Cop or a Roleblocker tonight at best.

[BrizzyBoi]

Well I am beginning to agree that audacesiuvat should be given another night to try and prove his innocence.

Unfortunately I have no other hunches at this point so am willing to go along with broomhead for the time being (who seems pretty confident) and

Vote: VisMaior

[Sentinel99]

Vote: VisMaior

Let the wagon proceed.

[VisMaior]

Im very confused right now. Does your PM have a guarantee from the Mod that your innocent or something like that? Or did Brizzyboi just have your word?

can we have a conformation from brizzyboi?

okay i'd like to bring back something thats been said on page 3. i would like some interpretation form someone who isn't the person in question.

why? the way i see it, the mafia already know whose protown and whose not. that information can only help the town.

Its called confirmed innocent. Bad thing if you are scum.

the way i see it, the more innocents we get the better. then we can just kill off the non-proven people and win the game

This is exactly why.

there will only be a slightly greater chance that they will kill the confirmed innocent

No, since the doc will protect the cop, they kill off the confirmed innocent. If they kill someone else, that would be worse for them, because we would increase the confirmed innocents number.

huh. those seem like all pro-town points of mine. i don't understand. my points=good. am i missing something? why did this desverre a vote from VisMajor?


the way i see it:

Vote:VisMajor

this stays unless something is cleared up.

P.S. does it seem that he was defending mafia? maybe i am just confused.

huh? Confirmed innocents are more likely to get killed at night. What is there to explain? Innocent resultas are generally (and should be) withheld until an innocent is about to be strung up, or the doc dies. Suggesting an instant reveal on innocents is not protown in any way. Where did I protect mafia again?

[help im a bug]

unvote, vote sentinel99

He's just looking for a convenient place to put his vote.